(May 19, 2019 02:54 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:Apparently I need to remind you to work on your reading skills again. When it clearly says the man is "not deserving of death" for an unintentional death, there obviously was an analog to manslaughter.
You can't be this stupid.
The verse didn't say that. It said this, speaking of any injury to the woman:
"But if there is any [further] injury, then you shall appoint as a penalty life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise."
Once again, no consideration of manslaughter here at all. He would be killed for killing the woman. But the fetus' death would only require a fine. So no equivalence between the fetus' life and the woman's life at all.
Backpedaling, I see. You went from a very general "
no such thing as manslaughter back then" to "
there is no manslaughter consideration here", while there clearly was in the citation you just responded to.
But being generous and assuming you meant your Exodus citation...
22 “If people are fighting and hit a pregnant woman and she gives birth prematurely but there is no serious injury, the offender must be fined whatever the woman’s husband demands and the court allows. 23 But if there is serious injury, you are to take life for life, 24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, 25 burn for burn, wound for wound, bruise for bruise.
Exodus 21:22-25
Again, a little reading comprehension would help you. That DOES NOT say "if there is serious injury
to the woman, you are to take life for life". And it is not a foregone conclusion that a prematurely born child would die or suffer serious injury.
Here the child is miscarried or aborted prematurely but yet lives. It is important to note that according to Webster’s New Twentieth Century Unabridged Dictionary abortion is defined as follows:
. . . the act of miscarrying or producing young before the natural time . . .” Webster’s New Twentieth Century Unabridged Dictionary. 1975. p5.
In other words, the normal nine months of pregnancy is “aborted” or cut short and the baby is born before it is full term. An abortion does not have to result in the death of the young being.
Such an event would cause great pain to the woman and potentially injury to the child. Since no death occurred, no one is put to death; but the man who struck the woman is forced to provide financial compensation.
- https://www.neverthirsty.org/bible-qa/qa...-abortion/
They didn't have the modern, medical definition of abortion back then.
But again, by all means, keep digging yer hole.
(May 19, 2019 02:58 AM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]Syne Wrote:That "human condition" is worrying more about social consequences that moral ones. But I can see why you'd have trouble prioritizing those.
I kind'a saw that coming. I may be wrong but wasn't there a time when Jesus was going somewhere and a whore touched his coat? Not my religion so I don't know what happened next. Can you share what happened next and why?
You seem to be conflating a sick woman who touched Jesus' cloak and a whore the Pharisees brought to test Jesus. The former was told her faith healed her and the latter was told he didn't condemn her and she should leave her life of sin (truly repented). Neither of which apply to whether abortion should be acceptable, as it neither heals, promotes faith, nor demonstrates any repentance.