(Feb 9, 2020 03:57 AM)Leigha Wrote: [ -> ]Not to change the topic...lol
But, I'm thinking of buying an inexpensive camera, and taking up photography. Mainly nature pics. Does anyone have such a hobby, and could you recommend a good digital camera? One of my friends recently upgraded to the iphone 10, and the photo quality using that phone's camera is really sharp. But, I'm not interested in upgrading my phone, just would like a separate camera to pursue this.
I have a nice DSLR. Even though I have a backpack for it, it’s a pain in the ass to carry and fumbling with lenses out in the wild is nerve wracking. I was trying to change lenses on a sketchy cliff and lost one to the sea. Nature shots are tough because you don’t always have it with you. I’ve encountered so many creatures when I least expect it. By the time that you setup for the shot, the creature is long gone. If you’re just planning on posting them and sharing them online, invest in the iPhone. If you’re wanting to print and frame them then a DSLR might be worth it but one that out performs the new iPhones is going to cost you significantly more than the iPhone. The cheapest one that I'd recommend would be the Nikon D3500. It's about half the price. I’d only invest in one, though, if I was planning on photographing people where you have to correct minor imperfections or enlarging and framing them.
(Feb 9, 2020 05:01 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: [ -> ]Quote:The part where it ignores the context I JUST gave you.
Context doesn't change the definition of engaging that you gave. It's right there in your post. You said it, and you're wrong. Engaging simply means participating in a discussion with someone. You don't have to argue for or support your views to engage someone.
Again, for the demonstrably illiterate, that definition was only given for that particular context. Refusing to acknowledge the obvious context is itself a failure of your ability to engage. You can participate all day long without ever addressing what was actually said.
(Feb 9, 2020 03:25 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb 9, 2020 03:57 AM)Leigha Wrote: [ -> ]Not to change the topic...lol
But, I'm thinking of buying an inexpensive camera, and taking up photography. Mainly nature pics. Does anyone have such a hobby, and could you recommend a good digital camera? One of my friends recently upgraded to the iphone 10, and the photo quality using that phone's camera is really sharp. But, I'm not interested in upgrading my phone, just would like a separate camera to pursue this.
I have a nice DSLR. Even though I have a backpack for it, it’s a pain in the ass to carry and fumbling with lenses out in the wild is nerve wracking. I was trying to change lenses on a sketchy cliff and lost one to the sea. Nature shots are tough because you don’t always have it with you. I’ve encountered so many creatures when I least expect it. By the time that you setup for the shot, the creature is long gone. If you’re just planning on posting them and sharing them online, invest in the iPhone. If you’re wanting to print and frame them then a DSLR might be worth it but one that out performs the new iPhones is going to cost you significantly more than the iPhone. The cheapest one that I'd recommend would be the Nikon D3500. It's about half the price. I’d only invest in one, though, if I was planning on photographing people where you have to correct minor imperfections or enlarging and framing them.
Ah, this is very helpful, thank you SS! So, the Nikon D3500 is running at around $400-450 on Amazon, I guess it depends on accessories. I wouldn't mind upgrading my phone, but I'm in a contract and I'd have to wait another year. In browsing online, I've found a few lens brands that attach to iphones, they are super cheap, $30-50. But, not sure if it would make much of a difference in photo quality. I may want to photograph people, but going to start with nature for now. I hear you, it's a challenge to get the perfect pic at the perfect time. I will keep you posted.
Syne - ''foghorn'' from SF is under the assumption that you have undergone a ''mob kicking'' from members of this site. You don't see yourself as a victim, do you? Maybe you could consider making a cameo appearance on SF, and resolve this? lol
So, how well do you listen to another person's argument? It's important, you know. Have you ever been sitting across from someone and he/she is just waiting for you to pause, so they can get a word in. Not interested at all in your rebuttal, or argument. It's a shame, because how then, can we learn from one another?
There has to be an online equivalent of this.
Some years ago the idea was floated out that there are very few 'contributors' on the planet at any given time - from memory the number given was about 100. The rest, currently about 7 billion, are participants.
(Feb 10, 2020 06:02 PM)Leigha Wrote: [ -> ]Syne - ''foghorn'' from SF is under the assumption that you have undergone a ''mob kicking'' from members of this site. You don't see yourself as a victim, do you? Maybe you could consider making a cameo appearance on SF, and resolve this? lol
Nah, if he reads here, he'll see this post:
https://www.scivillage.com/thread-8119-p...l#pid34356
(Feb 10, 2020 10:59 PM)Leigha Wrote: [ -> ]So, how well do you listen to another person's argument? It's important, you know. Have you ever been sitting across from someone and he/she is just waiting for you to pause, so they can get a word in. Not interested at all in your rebuttal, or argument. It's a shame, because how then, can we learn from one another?
The nearest thing to an "argument" I usually encounter concerns what _X_ person or group want to do (which on occasion can follow some wrangling and theories over "what happened?"). If it requires approval or conflicts with what "we" or "I" want to do (or is even applicable slash matters), then it necessitates having to listen. Otherwise, there may be spots in which I do drift off attention-wise, especially if there are phubbing intervals on their part. Wherein by the time they return to those of us (or just me) still physically around them, whatever was being discussed beforehand my have perished from neglect (if the subject wasn't critical).
(Feb 11, 2020 03:38 PM)C C Wrote: [ -> ] (Feb 10, 2020 10:59 PM)Leigha Wrote: [ -> ]So, how well do you listen to another person's argument? It's important, you know. Have you ever been sitting across from someone and he/she is just waiting for you to pause, so they can get a word in. Not interested at all in your rebuttal, or argument. It's a shame, because how then, can we learn from one another?
The nearest thing to an "argument" I usually encounter concerns what _X_ person or group want to do (which on occasion can follow some wrangling and theories over "what happened?"). If it requires approval or conflicts with what "we" or "I" want to do (or is even applicable slash matters), then it necessitates having to listen. Otherwise, there may be spots in which I do drift off attention-wise, especially if there are phubbing intervals on their part. Wherein by the time they return to those of us (or just me) still physically around them, whatever was being discussed beforehand my have perished from neglect (if the subject wasn't critical).
Yea, perhaps ''argument'' was too strong a word for what I was getting at. Online ''arguments'' or ''discussions'' play out very differently, because there's no way to know if you're boring someone, or they've checked out, short of not receiving any futher replies.
In other news, is SF down? I tried going to the website, and it doesn't come up at all...I'm receiving an error message ''unexpected database error.'' Anyone else?