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(Jun 25, 2022 07:22 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ]Current situation in the eastern Donbas battle as of Midnight Friday local time. Map from Ukraine War Map (@War_Mapper) on twitter. It shows that the Russians have occupied the small pocket that the Ukrainians evacuated. Currently, the Ukrainians are withdrawing their forces from Severodonetsk and the east side of the river.

Alchevsk, where the disobedient missile turned around and attacked the Russians that launched it is at the lower right.

Still no sign that Lysychansk is being evacuated, despite Russians approaching to its southern edges. Unclear what the Ukrainians plan to do there. Probably can't pull out before their forces are out from the east side of the river.

At some point I would expect the Ukrainians to pull back to west of Siversk around the black line (a big divided motorway?) east of Slovyansk and Kramatorsk. In that little tongue of land stretching east to Lysychansk, the Ukrainians are too exposed to artillery fire and possible encirclement.

i expect Russia will start to dig in now and try to form a border front as they conscript more soldiers and re-supply their front lines
but i expect they will keep pushing in small pockets to try and make it look like they are still advancing.
range of fire and air cover is key
if russia re supply can be disrupted with longer range artillery it will keep them busy
ukraine need to have a secondary front line of artillery to draw any advancing russians into as they create a new front line for anti Armour and anti soldiers
as long as they dont let russia come in behind them to hit their artillery and supply
russia will depend on its air force more and more as the front line digs in and stalls
i would be looking to concentrate ukraining long range artillery to blitz russian front line positions to smash a hole into the front of their supply line
just enough to force russia to lose its ability to control direction of its own movements
the higher the russian body count goes the more russian people will oppose the invasion and oppose putin

forcing russia to commit soldiers on the ground to where Ukrainian artillery can hit them is the key
while ukraine looks to find open spots for commando style raids on supply lines
Two Ukrainian Mi-8 helicopters flying over Ukrainian soldiers somewhere in eastern Ukraine. The United States has recently sent Ukraine 16 more to help make up for combat losses in the last 120 days. These were former Afghan Air Force machines that were flown out when Afghanistan fell in August 2021. They were eventually shipped to the US which has donated them to Ukraine. They aren't the world's most modern helicopters, but these Russian-made helicopters are tough and reliable. And the Ukrainians are already familiar with the aircraft type, with pilots, mechanics and spare parts on hand.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...6414509056
To me it's clear what we have is a proxy war between nominally 'the US' and Russia - with the former using Ukraine as the expendable cannon fodder.
The US initiated sanctions are not the result of moral outrage but the economic aspect of 'full-spectrum warfare'.
Choking off Russian gas sales to Europe, while the US steals that market with shipped LNG from US suppliers.
And of course the US MIC is making huge money with massive shipments of arms to Ukraine.
Win-win if you are a shareholder in any of the above. If all you take in is MSM spiel, that will never be obvious.

Nor will the irony be evident in US 'generous' supply of ex-Afghanistan ops old Russian gunship helicopters to Ukraine. Twenty years of 'peacekeeping and nation-building' in Afghanistan.
The end result - an absolute basket-case impoverished mess. Much like in Iraq. With the same fundamentalist regime in power as at the start of ops.
And lots of killing of locals in that twenty years span. All based on the absurd lie Osama and 19 Arabs pulled off 9-11. Are there any good guys?
Russia announces it is giving iksander missiles to Belarus to be nuclear capable
Quote:Russia will send nuclear capable short-range missile systems to its ally Belarus in the coming months, President Vladimir Putin has said.
He said Iskander-M systems "can fire ballistic and cruise missiles, both conventional and nuclear types".
The systems have a range of up to 500km (310 miles).
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-61938111


but . . . ... Russia is already engaging in war from Belarusian territory firing missiles into Ukraine

Russia probably wants to draw Belarus into the war so they can use their soldiers

if Ukraine fire on Belarus ?

is Russia using Belarus as a human shield ? looks like it.
The Ukrainians seem to be out of Severodonetsk and other points on the east bank of the Severskyi Donets river. The Russian advance on Lysychansk from the south continues. Here's a map-gif from Ukraine War Map (@War_Mapper) that shows the changes over the last two weeks (June 12-June 26).

https://twitter.com/War_Mapper/status/15...6125189121

The Ukrainians' position is definitely deteriorating in this very exposed place.

Which shouldn't be surprising since the Orcs have concentrated most of their forces here. (Map by Def Mon (@DefMon3) The Russians have a large portion of their army in Ukraine, and most of that is in the crescent from Izium around Lysychansk and Severodonetsk to Popasna.

I can't shake my layman's feeling that maybe the Ukrainians ought to cede Lysychansk and pull back at least as far as Siversk and maybe further. Of course a lot would depend on topography, on where the hills are etc. But they probably need to take action to save their forces. The Russians would love nothing more than to kill/capture some 10-15,000 Ukrainian regular army soldiers. Who they already have seriously outnumbered and are close to encircling.

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An aging Noam Chomsky expands on my own viewpoint and adds an extra angle or two that imo are spot on:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dCVN7iV5kVo
amazed at how much gold russia exports. the faster they block that the better.

news says russia is using washing machine chips for its military because they have no access to modern chips

sanctions are working
keeping in mind russia will never admit the sanctions are working
The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has asked foreign journalists in Ukraine not to publish information that they get from Ukrainian soldiers or from Ukrainian civilians on social media without approval, because in some cases it destroys operational secrecy.

Here's might be what led up to that announcement. It seems that a French TV crew was filming a small unit of Ukrainian troops in the Donbas. The journalists assured the soldiers that they would blur out any sensitive information and the soldiers let them film. But in their rush to get their (rather good) story on the air, the journalists failed to do what they had promised and broadcast an image of a map with Ukrainian positions clearly marked. The Russians took advantage of this, targeted the positions and killed the soldiers who had helped the journalists.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...4592330752

The French TV report that's said to have gotten them killed, about Ukraine's use of commercially available civilian quadcopter photographic drones for artillery spotting, that shows closeups of army maps.

https://www.tf1info.fr/international/dan...or=CS5-113

Here's one of the Ukrainian soldiers who died. He was a dental technician who volunteered to fight for his country when Ukraine was invaded.

https://twitter.com/LachowskiMateus/stat...4111379456
One of the American supplied former-Afghan helicopters, in Ukrainian colors over Ukraine. (Ukraine MoD photo)

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(Jun 27, 2022 03:31 AM)Yazata Wrote: [ -> ]The Ukrainian Defense Ministry has asked foreign journalists in Ukraine not to publish information that they get from Ukrainian soldiers or from Ukrainian civilians on social media without approval, because in some cases it destroys operational secrecy.

Here's might be what led up to that announcement. It seems that a French TV crew was filming a small unit of Ukrainian troops in the Donbas. The journalists assured the soldiers that they would blur out any sensitive information and the soldiers let them film. But in their rush to get their (rather good) story on the air, the journalists failed to do what they had promised and broadcast an image of a map with Ukrainian positions clearly marked. The Russians took advantage of this, targeted the positions and killed the soldiers who had helped the journalists.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...4592330752

The French TV report that's said to have gotten them killed, about Ukraine's use of commercially available civilian quadcopter photographic drones for artillery spotting, that shows closeups of army maps.

https://www.tf1info.fr/international/dan...or=CS5-113

Here's one of the Ukrainian soldiers who died. He was a dental technician who volunteered to fight for his country when Ukraine was invaded.

https://twitter.com/LachowskiMateus/stat...4111379456

Sad 
i watched the video
it surprised me to see they let the journalists in to film in their war room
should be no cameras and no cell phones for everyone except the operators