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Brand new Wagner Tank destroyed

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Quote:I believe that the shooters were Tajikistan soldiers. I don't know if this indicates that Russia is recruiting soldiers in Central Asia for its war in Ukraine or whether the soldiers were just there for training. Tajikistan has recently been fighting border battles with neighboring Kyrgyzstan. Tajikistan borders on Afghanistan and it has a serious jihadist problem.

The story seems to be that Russian officers were addressing an ethnically mixed group of soldiers being trained for action in the "special military operation". Several of the Muslim soldiers, said that they wanted to leave because "this isn't our war". One of the Russian officers told them that it's a "holy war". To which some of the Tajik soldiers said that the only holy war is Muslims against infidels. To which the Russian officer said that "Allah is a coward if he does not allow you to fight for the country to which you took an oath". This supposedly "shocked" many of the Muslims present, who took it to be blasphemy. Then three of the Tajik soldiers told the other Muslim soldiers to stand aside and shot the Russian officer and continued shooting indiscriminately into the remaining non-Muslim soldiers until some of them returned fire and killed two of the three Tajiks. The third was said to be wounded but escaped.
Russia originally was extremely complaintive about NATO bordering the country and constantly worried about what weapons were pointed at them, now I wonder whether Putins unwittingly started another Cuban Missile Crisis, however instead of Cuba it would likely be Belarus and the missiles are Iranian.

The real concern is whether Iran has remote access to control the missiles. It wouldn't take much for one of those to be fired off into Europe to start WWIII and Russia would get the blame (Part of the reason that both Iran and North Korea haven't been too much of a concern is the distance between them and us, if they start moving those missiles to the border of Europe that could well change.)
(Oct 17, 2022 12:09 PM)stryder Wrote: [ -> ]Russia originally was extremely complaintive about NATO bordering the country and constantly worried about what weapons were pointed at them, now I wonder whether Putins unwittingly started another Cuban Missile Crisis, however instead of Cuba it would likely be Belarus and the missiles are Iranian.

The real concern is whether Iran has remote access to control the missiles.  It wouldn't take much for one of those to be fired off into Europe to start WWIII and Russia would get the blame (Part of the reason that both Iran and North Korea haven't been too much of a concern is the distance between them and us, if they start moving those missiles to the border of Europe that could well change.)

More afraid of the mad men who might use a nuke. However I'm thinking a guy like Putin wouldn't want to give up wealth and power. Don't think he'd nuke for some religious reason. OTOH religious nut jobs may feel like they're fulfilling a prophecy. Maybe Iran could be first since Japan or at least have a few pointed at them.
Russian fighter jet fully armed crashes on take off into russian apartment building

https://twitter.com/bayraktar_1love/stat...5841813507

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Revealing intercepted call about russian convicts being held at the front line at gun point by conscripts, who are in turn held at gun point by regular army.
they have been given orders that if the line in front of them retreat, to shoot them.

Artur has not posted for a few days and his elon musk info does not include elon saying he will now pay for the star link


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video footage of the fighter jet crashing
Russian military falsely claim it was on a training mission
they dont want to admit that it was taking off to attack Ukrainian civilian targets

Quote:special military training exercise where they use their military to bomb Ukrainian civilians




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no movement on war mapper

The Russian buildup in Belarus north of western Ukraine continues. But some observers are of the opinion that it's just a feint and that Russia won't be in position to launch a new offensive until its newly mobilized troops are brought up to speed.

An interesting observation is that vehicles belonging to these forces, both Russian and Belarussian, have new symbols painted on them, a triangle with the number 2 inside it.

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/158...9365550084

https://twitter.com/IntelCrab/status/158...6380094464



(Oct 17, 2022 08:23 PM)RainbowUnicorn Wrote: [ -> ]Russian fighter jet fully armed crashes on take off into russian apartment building

The big bright fireball suggests a fuel blevy, consistent with the plane being fully fueled when it took off.
iran must be punished harshly for supplying weapons to russia

From my perspective, having done a lot of research that bypasses the MSM standard narrative, certain commentary here is worse than just facile idiocy.
What used to be actual objective news services are now nothing more than Globalist propaganda outlets. lapped up by the mindless as Gospel Truth.