Sep 11, 2022 07:05 PM
Wow, RU - If that video of yours is accurate and the Ukrainians are in Kreminna and Lysychansk, that is HUGE news. It suggests that the Russian "Special Operation" might be falling apart more generally and not just where this Kharkiv oblast offensive is occurring. I'm looking for verification of it. If true, IT'S BIG. Edit - There are multiple reports of this, but many of them seem to be quoting each other and admit that it's unverified. It seems to have come from the head of the Luhansk oblast military administration. I'm still not sure how accurate it is.
There are reports of civilians in the two separatist republics of Luhansk and Donetsk fleeing in large numbers to the Russian border, where cars are backed up for miles because the Russians won't let them enter Russia, despite their having recently been given nice new Russian passports.
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/...1047001088
The Ukrainians seem to have retaken all of the Russian held portion of Kharkiv oblast while the Russians try to pull themselves together and regroup behind the Oskil river, which is a long snaky reservoir along much of its length and provides them with a natural moat. But there are excited reports that the Ukrainians have already crossed this line and are advancing almost unopposed eastwards, while the Russians flee before them. If it's true, the Ukrainians might already be past Lysychansk and Severodonetsk.
The video in the tweet below is supposed to have been filmed in Starobilsk in Luhansk Oblast, about 100 km east of the Oskil. If the Russians are fleeing from there, it's probably all over for their invasion. Of course they might not be retreating at all, and have been called forward instead to help reinforce the new lines. We just don't know what the real situation is in northern Luhansk. (Fog of war...)
https://twitter.com/WhereisRussia/status...3570681856
And there are unconfirmed reports that military convoys are moving west to east through Melitopol, from the direction of Kherson towards Mariupol. Again, what does this mean? Are the forces that were moved to Kherson being redeployed back to where they are more needed?
Bottom line seems to be that the situation in eastern Ukraine is very chaotic right now and it's unclear what is happening. It might take a day or two to sort out.
(Putin might not even know, since I doubt if he trusts what his people tell him.)
It will be interesting to see what the Russians can salvage from what is starting to look like it might be a general debacle.
I think that for lots of reasons, this is a war that will be studied in the world's military academies for years to come.
There are reports of civilians in the two separatist republics of Luhansk and Donetsk fleeing in large numbers to the Russian border, where cars are backed up for miles because the Russians won't let them enter Russia, despite their having recently been given nice new Russian passports.
https://twitter.com/GirkinGirkin/status/...1047001088
The Ukrainians seem to have retaken all of the Russian held portion of Kharkiv oblast while the Russians try to pull themselves together and regroup behind the Oskil river, which is a long snaky reservoir along much of its length and provides them with a natural moat. But there are excited reports that the Ukrainians have already crossed this line and are advancing almost unopposed eastwards, while the Russians flee before them. If it's true, the Ukrainians might already be past Lysychansk and Severodonetsk.
The video in the tweet below is supposed to have been filmed in Starobilsk in Luhansk Oblast, about 100 km east of the Oskil. If the Russians are fleeing from there, it's probably all over for their invasion. Of course they might not be retreating at all, and have been called forward instead to help reinforce the new lines. We just don't know what the real situation is in northern Luhansk. (Fog of war...)
https://twitter.com/WhereisRussia/status...3570681856
And there are unconfirmed reports that military convoys are moving west to east through Melitopol, from the direction of Kherson towards Mariupol. Again, what does this mean? Are the forces that were moved to Kherson being redeployed back to where they are more needed?
Bottom line seems to be that the situation in eastern Ukraine is very chaotic right now and it's unclear what is happening. It might take a day or two to sort out.
(Putin might not even know, since I doubt if he trusts what his people tell him.)
It will be interesting to see what the Russians can salvage from what is starting to look like it might be a general debacle.
I think that for lots of reasons, this is a war that will be studied in the world's military academies for years to come.