The following is a brief respite (off-topic) into the world of "tit-for-twat" fake news. (This is not meant as a person attack against anyone, more of an admission of incite into the revolving world)
image: Shoes with laces untied (circa 2016)
Argument: "Your shoe laces are untied. They are untied, I can see they are untied by this photographic proof".
(The image circulates wildly in extremist media circles)
Defence: "That image could be real, but it's more likely a fake. Thanks for bringing it to our attention, we'll make sure they are done up, by tieing them up right away".
Later...(circa now) as a non-sequator in the middle of another argument entirely:
image: Shoes with laces untied (Same image circa 2016)
Argument "... This proves they walk in idiocy, their shoelaces are untied..." (notibly incorrect in grammar/tenses e.g. past/present/future)
Defence: "Are you still strawmanning that image from 2016, just because we didn't show you a picture showing that we tied our shoelaces up. You still think they are untied?!? *muffled explicit*"
image: Shoes with laces tied up (circa now)
Defence: "Happy now?!? *more muffled explicits at How can someone be so stupid?!? *"
image: Shoes with laces untied (Same image circa 2016)
Argument "My image is real, yours is just propaganda..."
*Curtain closes*
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Missiles being unloaded during a spell of cold weather in Syria.
Yes, it can be very cold in Summer in Syria. Is that not a light coating of snow? I wouldn't have believed it without photographic evidence.
(Dec 19, 2022 01:36 PM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]Missiles being unloaded during a spell of cold weather in Syria.
Yes, it can be very cold in Summer in Syria. Is that not a light coating of snow? I wouldn't have believed it without photographic evidence.
The
report is back in June, though, and thus that's probably stock footage from a time before the current (Ukrainian) conflict started. Not that you meant such, but in conjunction with the item below, someone might mistakenly infer the image was taken THIS December.
(Dec 19, 2022 05:20 PM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]From the Daily Mail (a UK paper) Dated Dec 19th 2022..
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...-WINS.html
Quote:The CIA has been supplying vetted [Syrian] rebel groups with American weapons
Actual date is 26 February 2016, updated a day later. IOW, that's probably related to operation
Timber Sycamore, started by Obama in late 2012 and phased-out by Trump in 2017. Some of the weapons stolen in that era might still be circulating, of course, if unused or non-depleted.
"According to American and Jordanian officials, weapons shipped into Jordan by the CIA and Saudi Arabia were stolen by Jordanian intelligence officials in the General Intelligence Directorate and sold on the black market. [...] Arms received via Timber Sycamore have flooded Middle Eastern black markets with heavy weaponry. Jordanian officials state that Jordanian intelligence officers who stole the program's weapons used the profits to purchase luxury items, with knowledge of superior officers. The thefts were halted after months of complaints by the American and Saudi governments, the program's main backers. According to Jordanian officials, several intelligence officers were fired, but their profits were not confiscated."
For obvious reasons Putin isn't keen on America supplying weapons to Ukraine. Equally obviously there are people within America who are against supplying arms to Ukraine - it suits the interests of both to set up a fake (or real) arms dealer with a story and some evidence with the intention of influencing American public opinion. Kornee does seem to be a natural target to be convinced "They're all corrupt" or "They're out to take over the world" without taking into account the possibility that he is simply being manipulated by people cleverer than himself.
(Dec 19, 2022 08:38 PM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]For obvious reasons Putin isn't keen on America supplying weapons to Ukraine. Equally obviously there are people within America who are against supplying arms to Ukraine - it suits the interests of both to set up a fake (or real) arms dealer with a story and some evidence with the intention of influencing American public opinion.
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly: "
In a world of nothing but antiheroes, it is the unrealistic standards of moral perfection which must be dropped; and 'good' is relatively shifted to Clint Eastwood's 'Man with No Name' character."
Which is to say, no doubt Ukraine has some criminal activity both inside and outside of government, but so do all countries. Also, I believe Stryder mentioned somewhere the negative contributions of factions and population groups in Ukraine who identify ethnically or politically with Russia. Vlad rescuing the latter "persecuted", seditious element being the motivation or excuse for invasion in the first place.
Quote:Kornee does seem to be a natural target to be convinced "They're all corrupt" or "They're out to take over the world" without taking into account the possibility that he is simply being manipulated by people cleverer than himself.
Aspirant prophecy does entail risk via seeking the cutting edge -- i.e., visiting whatever watering holes of an untamed frontier or fringe. Just as most of the abstract art displayed in a counter-narrative colony may truly be crap, but a small percentage indeed becomes museum pieces. Again, finding tomorrow's chic seems to require that gamble. A couple of gems discovered lodged in the array of exposed sphincters in the snoozing mass of last night's cluster-____, at the hippie commune.
(Dec 19, 2022 12:27 AM)confused2 Wrote: [ -> ]The US-made Javelin anti-tank missile, which the arms dealer in Idlib took from the Ukrainian commanders. He then brought them into Syria, a region controlled by terrorist jihadists.
Do we really know these came from Ukraine? (I'm not denying it exactly, we all know that before the war made them all into Saints, Ukraine was hugely corrupt where everything was for sale.)
Qatar (site of this years World Cup) purchased several hundred Javelins a few years ago and is well known as a financial and arms supporter of the Syrian rebels, which today are little more than a constantly squabbling collection of radical jihadists holed up in Syria's Idlib province.
Turkey also stirs the pot in Syria and today the "Free Syrian Army" has been more or less taken over by Turkey as their Syrian intervention force and rebranded the "Syrian National Army" (not to be confused with the Bashir Assad's real Syrian Army). While Turkey (a NATO member) doesn't seem to possess US made Javelins, they do produce their own Turkish made anti-tank missiles. In addition to using them to fight the Kurds in Syria, the Turks have employed the 'Syrian National Army' as mercenaries to further Turkish ends in wars from Libya to Azerbijan.
So I think that there are lots of agendas criss-crossing in Syria and a long list of potential suspects.
(Dec 20, 2022 01:47 AM)Kornee Wrote: [ -> ]Gawd - now I'm somehow linked to a hippie commune! Ha ha ha ha.
Nah. Can't use the contemporary "anti-establishment" landscape as its own metaphor, so the opposite and arguably less varied one of the 60-70s had to be recruited.
Those scouring the nooks and crannies of a counter-enlightenment for treasure don't necessarily belong to it. Any more than Samuel R. Delany was a legit member of the commune whose experiences he partly used in the explicit novel "Dhalgren", or Harlan Ellison when he joined gangs back in the 1950s as research for "Web of the City".