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Zinjanthropos Offline
Gettysburg ghost video.....What should we be expecting of a person holding a handycam in a moment like this? Except for a slight adjustment to the left near the beginning, is this not the steadiest hand held recording device of all time, despite all the excitement of ghost soldiers climbing rocks? Even if camera was affixed on a tripod I can't help but think of the good fortune of having it situated pointing towards a very nondescript area of treeline, for whatever reason, and then having the remarkable coincidence of ghost soldiers reenacting some past movement of the Civil War. Too bad they never tried to get closer but I guess it was more important to hold the camera mind-boggling steady.
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Magical Realist Offline
They probably saw the figures at first with their eyes and then set up a tripod and pointed their cam at it. That explains it.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
(Jan 4, 2019 05:08 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: They probably saw the figures at first with their eyes and then set up a tripod and pointed their cam at it. That explains it.

Like a continuous loop. I didn't hear that mentioned.

From a website called American Battlefield Trust. Taken from an article regarding 7 myths & misconceptions of Gettysburg. This is #7. Is it just a bunch of BS?
Quote:Myth 7: Gettysburg ghost stories are true.

With the exception of one story about Iverson’s Pits near Oak Hill there were no substantially disseminated ghost stories at Gettysburg for more than a century. The ghosts at Gettysburg phenomenon started in the 1990s which happens to coincide with people starting to make money on ghost books and tours. Today, there are scores of books and tours available for visitors but most all of these stories are not historical in nature. The Civil War Trust’s historian once heard a ghost story told in 1993. It was presented as fiction, but it only took three months until it was in a book as fact. 
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Like a continuous loop. I didn't hear that mentioned

Yeah..that's a sign of a residual haunting where a past event replays itself like a loop. It is suspected in cases where ghosts are observed doing the same things over and over again.

http://theshadowlands.net/ghost/residual.htm

Quote:Is it just a bunch of BS?

Nope. We got it on video.
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#66
Zinjanthropos Offline
So you agree there were no ghost phenomena reported from Gettysburg battlefield for more than a century? That would include the time when recording moving images was not used as evidence.

How do you know the video is a residual or a repeated time loop of a past event? What convinces you this is so? Should I be able to go to this exact spot, place a camera at precisely the same angles and whatever, practice patience until eventually I am able to record this exact same event or has the time loop expired? The video is interspersed with expert commentary that interrupts any chance of the viewer determining whether there is a continuous rerun taking place....why would they do that?

The Dark Zone is a tv series. Does it worry you that because they have access to technology that could be used to create all sorts of images far beyond what most armchair hoaxers could, that trick photography has the possibility of being used here? Why isn't the family that took the video identified?
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:So you agree there were no ghost phenomena reported from Gettysburg battlefield for more than a century? That would include the time when recording moving images was not used as evidence.

I agree that the 90's was the beginning of our modern ghost hunting era where people with cameras will go out late at night to find paranormal evidence. I doubt there were no ghost accounts preceding this time. I just think the site is biased against the paranormal. Money making is the go to complaint against ghost hunters by skeptics even though they rarely charge for their services.

Quote:How do you know the video is a residual or a repeated time loop of a past event? What convinces you this is so? Should I be able to go to this exact spot, place a camera at precisely the same angles and whatever, practice patience until eventually I am able to record this exact same event or has the time loop expired?

Who knows? Go out there and film it for us and see.

Quote:The Dark Zone is a tv series. Does it worry you that because they have access to technology that could be used to create all sorts of images far beyond what most armchair hoaxers could, that trick photography has the possibility of being used here? Why isn't the family that took the video identified?

No..I have seen this footage aired on many programs before. It's authentic and undebunked.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
From 38 sec to the 50 sec mark, do you think the wind is blowing? When I rapidly click on/off the trees seem to move quite noticeably with every click, each split second. Is that just because its old video? The light reflected back to the camera from treeline also varies with each rapid click, again old recording? Poor quality videotape or film?

The figures are said to float into the trees when it seems quite obvious there's a path going upwards behind the trees. Why use the word 'floating' to describe the upward angular ascent by these figures?

The video is interspersed with expert commentary that interrupts any chance of the viewer determining whether there is a continuous rerun taking place....why would they do that?
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Quote:From 38 sec to the 50 sec mark, do you think the wind is blowing? When I rapidly click on/off the trees seem to move quite noticeably with every click, each split second. Is that just because its old video? The light reflected back to the camera from treeline also varies with each rapid click, again old recording? Poor quality videotape or film?

Yeah..wind would be a feasible assumption. lol!

Quote:The figures are said to float into the trees when it seems quite obvious there's a path going upwards behind the trees. Why use the word 'floating' to describe the upward angular ascent by these figures

I don't see a path for the figures on the right who are walking above ground level. You really are disturbed by this footage aren't you?

Quote:The video is interspersed with expert commentary that interrupts any chance of the viewer determining whether there is a continuous rerun taking place....why would they do that?

You have the name of the show. Give them a call. I'm not about to go down this anal path with you questioning every little thing in the video just because you don't want to believe in ghosts.
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Quote:I'm not about to go down this anal path with you questioning every little thing in the video just because you don't want to believe in ghosts.

Anal? Odd choice of word. Too bad you feel that way. Why is it not in your best interest to explain even the most subtle anomaly a video might contain? You put it out there, not me. 

Not a program I watch but MacGyver, or at least a show writer once said: Only a fool is sure of anything, a wise man keeps on guessing. I'm not sure ghosts exist and was hoping you could change that thought with some convincing evidence. I'll have to keep guessing.
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