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Syne Offline
(Jul 11, 2025 03:25 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Another pathetic straw man lie. No one said every NGO.

Yes they did. Here it is again:

"NGOs capitalize on ideological and political antagonism within the UN [WFP] to bring their anti-Israel campaigns to the international stage."

That's every NGO. If you're an NGO, they're saying you are anti-Israel. And that's complete nonsense as I showed.
So you idiotically believe that EVERY NGO works with the UN? Moron. LEARN TO READ, DIPSHIT.

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Quote:Genetic fallacy, whereas everything NGO Monitor reports is supported by facts. I don't see you refuting any of those facts.

No they're not. As I showed they complained about Mercy Corp for not mentioning Palestinian attacks, but that doesn't invalidate their reports on Israel's treatment of Gazans in the least. It's a total non-sequiter. They're under no obligation to mention that. That's not what they are about. As quoted already:
Cherry-picking.

As already posted, if you could read worth a damn:
(Jul 10, 2025 10:27 PM)Syne Wrote: Mercy Corps: Humanitarian Assistance, Marred By Anti-Israeli Propaganda

The descriptions of the Mercy Corps humanitarian projects to aid Palestinians include biased claims blaming Israel exclusively for poverty and suffering, ignoring the rampant corruption of the Palestinian Authority, and the campaign of terrorism directed against Israeli civilians. In one report, Mercy Corps claims: "As a result of the severe restrictions placed on Palestinians in the West Bank and Gaza, the UN and other agencies have identified serious micronutrient deficiencies among Palestinian children…" Beyond these politically-charged allegations, there is no independent analysis, no evidence to ascribe this situation to Israeli policies, and no effort to examine Israeli efforts to alleviate Palestinian suffering.

In a second example, Mercy Corps claims: "Over the past decade, the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) began implementing a closure system in the West Bank to regulate Palestinian movement … through a series of roadblocks and military checkpoints. In the past three years access and movement for Palestinians within the West Bank has been crippled by more than 700 IDF barriers and checkpoints. The massive wall the Israeli Government is building will further separate Palestinian communities, sever social and economic links and block access to critical health and education services." No mention is made of the Palestinian terror campaign that has killed over 1000 Israelis since 2001, most of them civilians riding in busses, going to schools, and eating in cafes.

Solely blaming Israel is not merely failing to mention other causes. It's blatant one-sided bias. If only you could recognize the obvious.

Quote:"This research shows that many of NGO Monitor's accusations are based on selective citations, half-facts and insinuations, but not necessarily on hard evidence", Blok added."

IOW the whole organization is just a front for a pro-Israel anti-palestinian propaganda machine aimed only at bashing all humanitarian NGOs in the world for exposing Israel's genocidal policies. There couldn't be a more partisan dissemination of misinformation and lies just to keep Israel looking good before the world. No wonder you're such a moronic fool.
Again, only a characterization without any specific examples or refutes. This is called poisoning the well.
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:So you idiotically believe that EVERY NGO works with the UN?

It's what they just said. I quoted it twice.

Quote:Solely blaming Israel is not merely failing to mention other causes. It's blatant one-sided bias. If only you could recognize the obvious.

No it isn't. There's lots of reasons for not mentioning it. The primary being it is not relevant to their current mission in Gaza. Which means they aren't concerned with any political side but are only reporting the relevant facts of that situation. In no way does it invalidate their on the ground reports, particularly when all these reports by other NGOs are agreeing on the same facts. Kinda hard to cry bias when they all agree on the same things. That's why nobody agrees with your dumb organization. Because it is only interested in bashing NGOs with no interest in solving the problem in Gaza. And by creating distrust in these NGOs it is only contributing to the problem.
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Syne Offline
(Jul 11, 2025 03:47 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:So you idiotically believe that EVERY NGO works with the UN?

It's what they just said. I quoted it twice.
You're illiterate.
Nowhere does it say "all NGOs," "every NGO," or anything to that effect.

Your reading comprehension gets worse by the day.

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Quote:Solely blaming Israel is not merely failing to mention other causes. It's blatant one-sided bias. If only you could recognize the obvious.

No it isn't. There's lots of reasons for not mentioning it. The primary being it is not relevant to their current mission in Gaza. Which means they aren't concerned with any political side but are only reporting the relevant facts of that situation. In no way does it invalidate their on the ground reports, particularly when all these reports by other NGOs are agreeing on the same facts. Kinda hard to cry bias when they all agree on the same things. That's why nobody agrees with your dumb organization. Because it is only interested in bashing NGOs with no interest in solving the problem in Gaza. And by creating distrust in these NGOs it is only contributing to the problem.
Blaming only one side is not "only reporting the relevant facts." Easy to cite bias when it's clearly shown. Antisemitism has become an epidemic since Oct 7th.
I've repeatedly told you the solution. Gazans giving up Hamas and returning the hostages. But you don't want to hear any solution that doesn't demonize Jews.
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:You're illiterate.
Nowhere does it say "all NGOs," "every NGO," or anything to that effect.

Your reading comprehension gets worse by the day.

No dipshit. Here's how words work. If I say "fish swim in the water" it is assumed that means "ALL fish swim in water". If I say "meteorites fall from the sky" it means "ALL meteorites fall from the sky." And if someone says "NGOs are anti-Israel" then they are saying "ALL NGOs are anti-Israel". It's pathetic that I have to teach you basic English. But that's apparently what it's come down to. Take an English course online sometime little man...
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Syne Offline
(Jul 11, 2025 07:05 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:You're illiterate.
Nowhere does it say "all NGOs," "every NGO," or anything to that effect.

Your reading comprehension gets worse by the day.

No dipshit. Here's how words work. If I say "fish swim in the water" it is assumed that means "ALL fish swim in water". If I say "meteorites fall from the sky" it means "ALL meteorites fall from the sky." And if someone says "NGOs are anti-Israel" then they are saying "ALL NGOs are anti-Israel". It's pathetic that I have to teach you basic English. But that's apparently what it's come down to. Take an English course online sometime little man...

If only you could read... and comprehend simple context. 9_9

NGOs capitalize on ideological and political antagonism within the UN to bring their anti-Israel campaigns to the international stage. The devastating impact of NGOs is compounded by the institutional bias of UN bodies, such as the Human Rights Council, the Special Rapporteur on Palestinian issues, and biased “fact-finding” missions.
- https://ngo-monitor.org/report-category/un/


This isn't saying "fish swim in water." This is saying "fish swim in the Indian Ocean," which should be painfully obvious by the context "capitalize on... within the UN."
You've imagined that anyone has said "NGOs are anti-Israel" just to justify your illiteracy.

Alas, your Dunning-Kruger is on full display.
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:This isn't saying "fish swim in water." This is saying "fish swim in the Indian Ocean," which should be painfully obvious by the context "capitalize on... within the UN."

LOL Yes it does. They're saying all NGOs capitalize on ideological and political antagonism within the UN to bring their anti-Israel campaigns to the international stage. It's what they said. There's no denying it. And it's a completely stupid thing to say.
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Syne Offline
No, you are functionally illiterate, moron.
And you're too dumb to realize you're overestimating your comprehension skills... hence obvious Dunning-Kruger effect.

You can't even manage to admit you made up the "NGOs are anti-Israel" quote. That makes you intellectually dishonest to boot.
Otherwise, prove that ALL NGO charities work with the UN. You can't, because they don't.

Many NGOs choose not to work with the UN for various reasons, including maintaining independence, differing priorities, or disagreements with UN policies. While some NGOs partner with the UN for specific projects or advocacy efforts, many others operate independently. Examples of NGOs that often operate outside of direct UN partnerships include those focused on direct service delivery, grassroots activism, or specific religious or ideological missions.
- Google AI

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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:And you're too dumb to realize you're overestimating your comprehension skills... hence obvious Dunning-Kruger effect.

I wonder what it's called when someone keeps repeating the Dunning-Kruger effect to make themselves appear educated?

Quote:Otherwise, prove that ALL NGO charities work with the UN. You can't, because they don't.

That's up to them buttface. They're the ones who said it.
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Syne Offline
Welp, there's obviously no teaching you... even just to understand simple English. Too bad. It means you lack the intellectual capacity to defend or deny your garbage antisemitism. At best, you're just a useful idiot. Sadly, only useful for evil people.
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Study Shows How U.S. And European Media Parrot Hamas Propaganda, Present It As Truth

A new study reveals how media in the United States and Europe simply parroted inaccurate information from the terrorist group Hamas and represented it as truthful.

The Network Contagion and Research Institute released their comprehensive report, titled, “The 4th Estate Sale: How American and European Media Became an Uncritical Mouthpiece for a Designated Foreign Terror Organization.

The report started by illuminating how the media virtually unanimously purveyed a uniform narrative in which they lied about the efforts of the U.S. Department of State’s aid initiative, the Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which was delivering meals and direct food assistance to Palestinian civilians in Gaza.

“Within days of GHF’s first meal deliveries, it became the target of a deliberate narrative assault, driven less by verifiable facts than by the demands of a competing narrative,” the report states. “Reports and evidence of violence at aid sites began to surface, and international and U.S. media outlets, social media influencers, and NGOs started publishing articles that ascribed blame to the Israeli Defense Forces (IDF) or GHF for intentional violence against civilians, war crimes, and complicity in the crime of genocide. The reports quickly condensed into viral headlines, but the claim that the IDF was systematically murdering civilians was usually sourced from Hamas-run ministries or anonymous accounts, and often unverified. Moreover, evidence that Hamas could be responsible for violence around aid sites – evidence provided by non-Hamas Palestinian sources, by Hamas’s online communications, and by video that in some cases shows Hamas operatives deliberately firing on Palestinian civilians– was almost never suggested.”

A core failure of media coverage is the routine elevation of the Gaza Health Ministry, a Hamas-run agency, as a trusted source on culpability for violence. … many mainstream media outlets remain willing to rely on figures and ‘facts’ taken from the Gaza Health Ministry,” the report continues. “The media framed a narrative sourced unreflexively from Hamas affiliates – a narrative which aims to uproot any challenge that undermines the terrorist-designated entity’s governance over aid distribution in the Gaza Strip. This effort transformed reporting into narrative laundering: the process of circulating unverified or unreliable information and framing it as a legitimate window into truth.”

“Our results suggest that the GHF was targeted and undermined by a collection of adversarial actors and institutional amplifiers acting synchronously and convergently,” the report continues. “Major media headlines cited Hamas-linked officials more than any other source – making a foreign terrorist organization one of the leading voices shaping news about GHF. Of the high-engagement news articles NCRI analyzed, Hamas-linked officials and organizations, such as the Gaza Health Ministry, were directly cited in headlines more than any other named source. In nearly three-quarters of those cases, it was not disclosed in the headline that the source was a Hamas affiliate.

One example from the report: “The Washington Post retracted early versions of a report that explicitly stated Israeli troops killed over 30 Palestinians near a U.S. aid site in Gaza. The original headline attributed to ‘health officials’ the claims about Israeli troops being responsible for the deaths, but the journalists failed to clarify that this attribution solely reflected a claim from the Gaza Health Ministry. This consequently gave readers a false impression that Israeli responsibility had been independently confirmed.

Another: “CNN corrected its report of a shooting near a Gaza aid site in which at least 31 Palestinians were allegedly killed. The original article uncritically reported the Gaza Health Ministry’s claim that the Israeli military was responsible without making clear that this accusation had not been independently verified.”

“A particularly salient example of this occurred when Gazan pharmacist Omar Hamad introduced the conspiratorial narrative that the GHF intentionally laced bags of flour with the narcotic Oxycodone. This claim went viral on X, racking up over 25.7M views across just 21 posts,” the report noted.

“While originating from traditional sources (NGOs, UN bodies, humanitarian advocates), these narratives are rapidly absorbed by future assassins like Elias Rodriguez or online networks that reframe them through radically different lenses on both the right and left,” the report opines.

The belief that Israel is intentionally starving children or deliberately targeting hospitals under the pretense of counterterrorism is not grounded in verifiable fact. These are not legitimate policy critiques; they are fabricated atrocity narratives that reframe Israel’s actions as genocidal, regardless of evidence to the contrary. What’s most alarming is the shift from political disagreement to dehumanizing conviction. The experimental results show that exposure to these narratives moves individuals to endorse conspiracy-level accusations and adopt a moral framework in which Israel is no longer a flawed actor, but a fundamentally evil one,” the report concludes.

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