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Magical Realist
Jan 3, 2021 09:15 PM
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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-asks...ref=scroll
Trump Asks Georgia’s Top Elections Official To ‘Find’ the Votes to Win Him the State, Audio Tapes Show
"President Trump urged Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to “find” enough votes to overturn his electoral loss in the state, according to audio of a Saturday phone call between the two released by The Washington Post on Sunday. “There’s nothing wrong with saying, you know, um, that you’ve recalculated,” the president told the state’s top elections official.
Raffensperger, who along with fellow Republican Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has remained steadfast in refusing to overturn the election results, told the President on the call that there was no evidence of voter fraud or election interference. At one point, when the president falsely asserted that votes were scanned thrice, Raffensperger responded, ““Mr. President, they did not. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.”
Trump lost Georgia and its 16 electoral votes to President-elect Joe Biden by 11,779 votes. Though Republican members of Congress have said they will object to the Electoral College certification on Jan. 6—even though allegations of voter fraud in the 2020 election have been repeatedly rebuked in court—it is expected to be unsuccessful in overturning the results, given that both chambers must vote to reject the results, and Democrats control the House."
Audio of phone call:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3hrN0cP58Y
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Leigha
Jan 4, 2021 04:23 AM
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Thanks for posting that clip, MR. Where did these ''rumors'' come from, then? (those Trump mentions about machinery parts being removed, etc)
Trump makes a curious point by suggesting that the people involved with these investigations haven't been concerned with ''finding answers.'' I don't think he's wrong in stating that, really. The mass dismissal to look further into potential election fraud has always seemed odd to me.
Would it have been too complicated to hold a new election? In my opinion, there is reasonable doubt if election fraud transpired ...or didn't. So much of the dismissal due to '' lack of evidence,'' seems to hinge on little more than hearsay.
You know what's funny, though? About two years ago, when Trump started tweeting about election fraud, many on the left thought it was to set the stage for a Republican take over of this last election. lol Wow, if that were the case, that surely backfired.
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Syne
Jan 4, 2021 06:34 PM
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Congressional Democrats objecting to the 2016 electoral votes.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/asvL1M1dsSc
And in 2000 and 2004.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/GOfzobACIFY
So tell me again why it's so wrong for Republicans to do now?
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Magical Realist
Jan 4, 2021 11:03 PM
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Fact checking Trump's claims made on the Georgia phone call
Washington (CNN) "In the now-notorious phone call between President Donald Trump, Georgia's Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger and staff, the President repeated multiple false claims in an effort to claim victory in Georgia, a state he lost to President-elect Joe Biden.
Trump has been tossing out debunked conspiracy theories over the election in Georgia -- a state that flipped from Trump in 2016 to Biden -- since just days after he lost. The state has certified its election results three times under Raffensperger's leadership and found no mass voter fraud.
In one of the most striking moments of the call, which was obtained by CNN and first reported by The Washington Post, Trump said, "I just want to find 11,780 votes" -- one more than he lost by -- and proposed several areas where Biden's total might be reduced.
Here's a look at the facts...."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/04/politics/...index.html
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Syne
Jan 4, 2021 11:10 PM
Only uninformed morons (leftists) fail to realize that the votes Trump wanted to find were those due to election fraud...not fabricated votes. But as usual, unethical leftists project their own lack of principles upon others, claiming Trump wants Georgia to do for him what they already did for Biden.
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confused2
Jan 5, 2021 01:11 AM
Syne Wrote:..the votes Trump wanted to find were those due to election fraud Of course that's what he wanted. Trump is a veritable beacon of integrity and an example to us all.
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Syne
Jan 5, 2021 01:53 AM
Speaking of the aforementioned moron leftists.
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confused2
Jan 5, 2021 02:38 AM
Syne Wrote:Speaking of the aforementioned moron leftists. I think your problem is really with the big guns being fired:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith..".
It might not mean anything to you but it does look like the American Constitution is doing what it was set up to do - for better or worse.
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Syne
Jan 5, 2021 02:48 AM
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(Jan 5, 2021 02:38 AM)confused2 Wrote: Syne Wrote:Speaking of the aforementioned moron leftists. I think your problem is really with the big guns being fired:
"I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic, that I will bear true faith..".
It might not mean anything to you but it does look like the American Constitution is doing what it was set up to do - for better or worse.
Thanks for immediately proving my point. Leftists never understand the Constitution, beyond what they wish it said.
And all the evidence of election fraud and irregularities are no concern to leftists, because they have no principles. They just try to use principled-sounding bullshit when it suits their purposes. Hence you quoting something of which you've never demonstrated any comprehension.
Remember, you're the POS here:
(Dec 29, 2020 09:35 AM)confused2 Wrote: My mother deliberately eradicated my father when he died - when she died I did the same to her - a revenge 40 years in the making.
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Leigha
Jan 5, 2021 03:48 AM
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(Jan 4, 2021 11:10 PM)Syne Wrote: Only uninformed morons (leftists) fail to realize that the votes Trump wanted to find were those due to election fraud...not fabricated votes. But as usual, unethical leftists project their own lack of principles upon others, claiming Trump wants Georgia to do for him what they already did for Biden.
That sounds like an orchestrated widespread strategy, do you believe that? I’m not sure what to believe anymore. On the one hand, it sounds completely irrational but on the other, who knows?
I don’t think it was a wise move on Trump’s part to make that call himself (or for such a call to be made at all) At the very least, he should be leaving this to his legal team, not calling election officials asking them to pretend like they recalculated and found votes for him.
I’m not dismissing that election fraud may have occurred but two wrongs will never make a right.
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