Today I Found Out…

#91
(Aug 7, 2017 03:31 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: My friends are people I admire and respect....not for any positive feedback they provide about me, but for their own qualities. Not how they make me feel. I don't know. Maybe you like associating with people you feel you can brow beat. Makes you feel good about yourself. I'd rather have people I can't brow beat...even if I tried.

I edited it my last reply to you.

Hopefully, they'll appreciate my honesty.
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#92
Today I found out that when paper towel goes on sale for the excellent price of $2.99/6 large rolls, that there will not be sufficient stock in town to meet the demand.

I went down to the venue quite early and was able to grab four to share between two households. I nipped back in and got the last package on the shelf for the office after which I went to a second location of the same drugstore chain and secured their last package also for the office. This being the second day of a two day sale and the trucks to restock not arriving until tonight, I guess that sale is now officially done as I did ask if they had any more in the back and both venues did not.

Out of consideration for the environment I do not use a lot of paper products but there are some hygienic situations where it is better to wipe and burn than attempt to sterilize a cloth or sponge for re-use.
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#93
(Aug 13, 2017 09:56 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Aug 7, 2017 03:31 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: My friends are people I admire and respect....not for any positive feedback they provide about me, but for their own qualities. Not how they make me feel. I don't know. Maybe you like associating with people you feel you can brow beat. Makes you feel good about yourself. I'd rather have people I can't brow beat...even if I tried.

I edited it my last reply to you.

Hopefully, they'll appreciate my honesty.
Not sure why you attributed my words to yourself... Dodgy
(Aug 13, 2017 07:05 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: Edit*

You did help in a roundabout way, though.

(Aug 13, 2017 06:31 PM)Syne Wrote: It's primarily about how the relationship affects you.

Instead explaining the difference between pity and empathy, I’ll just tell them the truth.  It worked when one of them was always late.  I told her that it made me feel like she thought her time was more valuable than mine.  She’s been on time ever since.

I’ll tell them the same thing that I told you. 
(Aug 7, 2017 03:31 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I just don’t like them thinking that they’re more righteous or better than me.  You know, like you do.
What gives you the right to demand people change how they think? That is not a friend. Like any relationship, you should never assume you can change the other person to suit your needs/desires.
Quote:"I don’t like when you bring up your religion, when you know full well that I am an atheist. It makes me feel like you think you’re superior and it’s arrogant."

It’s a bit harsher, but it’s the truth.

So now you not only want to curtail how they think but you want to limit their free expression? What a great friend you must be to have. Dodgy
"Hey everybody, SS is coming, make sure you don't mention religion...she's insecure, and thinks any mention of it is somehow superior...even though she tries to correct us on scripture like she's the superior one." Rolleyes

They put up with your bullshit too, deary.
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#94
Syne Wrote:My friends are people I admire and respect....
Lick up, kick down. It is possible (though unlikely) that my mother said that at some stage in my life.

http://dilbert.com/strip/1993-11-03
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#95
(Aug 13, 2017 10:38 PM)Syne Wrote:
Secular Sanity Wrote:"I don’t like when you bring up your religion, when you know full well that I am an atheist. It makes me feel like you think you’re superior and it’s arrogant."

It’s a bit harsher, but it’s the truth.

So now you not only want to curtail how they think but you want to limit their free expression? What a great friend you must be to have.  Dodgy

"Hey everybody, SS is coming, make sure you don't mention religion...she's insecure, and thinks any mention of it is somehow superior...even though she tries to correct us on scripture like she's the superior one."  Rolleyes

They put up with your bullshit too, deary.


I’m not refraining anyone from talking about their beliefs.  You know better than that.  I’d never shy away from a two-way discussion.  If that were the case, I’d be tickled pink.

I had a fall out last year with the woman who brought it up.  She sent me a text message asking if my son was going to be able to come home for Christmas.  I said no, he wasn’t.  Her response was, “How’s that science working for you now?”  I told her that she was one of the most insensitive persons that I’ve ever met. (Given the fact that I’ve never met you in person before.) In her next message she said she’d pray for me. I told her that she was shallow, that her prayers were worthless, and I that highly doubted that she even prays.

Our families have been friends forever.  My phone lit up like a Christmas tree.

(Suicide rates are increasing in the Marines.  My son heard a commotion down the hall in the barracks.  Everyone was trying to get into this guy’s room because he posted a suicide note on social media.  He meant business and barricaded his door well.  My son ran out front and scaled the brick building and climbed through the second story window.  He thought he was already dead because his body’s reaction to all the pills was severe.  His head had doubled in size.  He was still alive, though.  His commanding officer ordered my son to stay and to move in with him until they could arrange for him to be discharged.  My son never told him that he was the one who saved his life.  He didn’t want there to be any animosity between them.  So, he wasn’t able to come home for Christmas.)

Finally, her mother called me to tell how much my words had hurt her poor little daughter.  I told her what had happened.  A week later, she called herself and asked if she could come over.  She apologized and asked if we could remain friends.  She said that we would never discuss religion again, but surrounded by a few other Christians, and a few glasses of wine, that deal went right out the window.

I know that you may feel that atheist are less tolerant and close-minded, but I find just the opposite to be true.  I can empathize with them because I was one of them.

You have watch those so-called do-gooders.  They're slippery little suckers.
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#96
(Aug 14, 2017 01:55 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: I’m not refraining anyone from talking about their beliefs.  You know better than that.  I’d never shy away from a two-way discussion.  If that were the case, I’d be tickled pink.

I had a fall out last year with the woman who brought it up.  She sent me a text message asking if my son was going to be able to come home for Christmas.  I said no, he wasn’t.  Her response was, “How’s that science working for you now?”  I told her that she was one of the most insensitive persons that I’ve ever met. (Given the fact that I’ve never met you in person before.) In her next message she said she’d pray for me. I told her that she was shallow, that her prayers were worthless, and I that highly doubt that she even prays.

Our families have been friends forever.  My phone lit up like a Christmas tree.

Finally, her mother called me to tell how much my words had hurt her poor little daughter.  I told her what had happened.  A week later, she called herself and asked if she could come over.  She apologized and asked if we could remain friends.  She said that we would never discuss religion again, but surrounded by a few other Christians, and a few glasses of wine, that deal went right out the window.

I know that you may feel that atheist are less tolerant and close-minded, but I find just the opposite to be true.  I can empathize with them because I was one of them.

You have watch those so-called do-gooders.  There slippery little suckers.

Puhleeze. Like you've never said something snarky to a religious person (without any regard for any unknown context)? Dodgy We all know better. So you dish it out, but you can't take it.

Instead, you shamed someone into an apology for simply not knowing the whole story. Good for you. You got to lord it over her after all. If you were the worst kind of religious person, what makes you think atheism makes you any better? O_o


Actually I think atheists are more tolerant, by definition, baring lemming leftists. Their pride in their "lack of belief" makes them exceptionally...flexible....or just an equal opportunity cynic.
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#97
Even if that hadn't happened, my response would have been appropriate, but it's not a two-way street, is it?

She was shallow, her prayers are worthless, and I still doubt that she even prays.
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#98
(Aug 14, 2017 02:48 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: Even if that hadn't happened, my response would have been appropriate, but it's not a two-way street, is it?

She was shallow, her prayers are worthless, and I still doubt that she even prays.

All relationships are a two-way street, deary. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.
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#99
(Aug 14, 2017 03:13 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Aug 14, 2017 02:48 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: Even if that hadn't happened, my response would have been appropriate, but it's not a two-way street, is it?

She was shallow, her prayers are worthless, and I still doubt that she even prays.

All relationships are a two-way street, deary. If you can't take it, don't dish it out.

BTW, I didn't even tell her mother about the suicide.  I just sent her the text messages.  She apologized because she struggles in life and she doesn't want to lose me as friend.  

I can take it, but she can't.

You just like pulling my hair and not in a good way.  Wink
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Today I found out...that there is a ground hornet nest along the far edge of my round pen which I use when training the horses.

Frosted Val got stung several times during her workout but she must not have stepped too near the nest as the presence of the insects was not obvious. The next mare, Threebee, went into wild antics and glared directly at the small hole in the ground from which the angry winged insects were now swarming. Student, horse and myself beat a hasty retreat and so ended that part of the lesson today.

No wasp spray in town according to the gentleman I deployed for that mission so hopefully he has something left in his shed at home. Definitely the worst year for wasps and hornets that I can recall.
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