Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order

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Syne Offline
(Yesterday 10:05 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:It's very easy (albeit illegal) for somebody else to fill it out and mail it in. Determining who did that and making a criminal case against them would be difficult. Especially when those in charge don't really want to know.

And yet as shown already there is zero evidence for this kind of voter fraud in already mail-in voting states. Evidently the motive is simply not there, especially when mailing your ballot makes it so much easier to vote anyway.

It's undetectable. Of course there's "zero evidence." 9_9
They'd have to be willing to clean up their voter rolls and then actually make a concerted effort to look for such fraud... just to have a chance to catch it.
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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:It's undetectable. Of course there's "zero evidence

No it isn't. It's detected as soon as two ballots show up from the same person.
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(Yesterday 10:29 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:It's undetectable. Of course there's "zero evidence

No it isn't. It's detected as soon as two ballots show up from the same person.

Again, for the reading impaired, if the person has moved out of state, died, or didn't vote there would not be two ballots for the same person, but one person could send in two ballots... his and one from a moved, died, or non-voter.
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Quote:Again, for the reading impaired, if the person has moved out of state, died, or didn't vote there would not be two ballots for the same person, but one person could send in two ballots... his and one from a moved, died, or non-voter.

Moved or dead voters are a small fraction of the population, and people trying to use their ballot just to vote twice for the same candidate even smaller. If you think it is going on in significant election-deciding numbers, why? Because your orange clown said so? Hitchen's Razor: Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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(Today 12:47 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Moved or dead voters are a small fraction of the population, and people trying to use their ballot just to vote twice for the same candidate even smaller.
Since it is undetectable, there's no way you could know that. As usual, you just lie when you have no argument.
One fraudster could submit far more than two votes. They can harvest them. Like Democrat drives to register people to vote, where they, illegally, won't register Republicans and have been caught paying homeless people to register... knowing they have zero interest in voting. That's one way you can generate undetectable fraudulent ballots.

Quote:If you think it is going on in significant election-deciding numbers, why? Because your orange clown said so? Hitchen's Razor: Claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Like I said initially, Democrats in these states will never find what they don't look for. It's by design. That's why they are so against giving the federal government their voter rolls, to be checked for accuracy, or having any federal oversight in their elections. They aren't so defensive for no reason, and where there's smoke, there's often fire.

And you wouldn't dismiss it if you thought it was working against you, just like Democrats tried to claim Trump stole the 2016 election.
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Quote:Since it is undetectable, there's no way you could know that.

LOL If it's undetectable, then you can't possibly know it's happening. Once again, Hitchen's razor.

Quote:Like I said initially, Democrats in these states will never find what they don't look for. It's by design. That's why they are so against giving the federal government their voter rolls, to be checked for accuracy, or having any federal oversight in their elections. They aren't so defensive for no reason, and where there's smoke, there's often fire.

LOL Right out of the MAGA playbook. Piling on more bullshit on top of more bullshit. Still not a shred of evidence. The great thing about conspiracy theories is that they can't be disproven. So they must be happening, right?
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(Today 01:43 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Since it is undetectable, there's no way you could know that.

LOL If it's undetectable, then you can't possibly know it's happening. Once again, Hitchen's razor.
I know the vulnerability is there and plenty of people motivated to exploit it.
Whether, or how often, motive, means, and opportunity meet up is the only real question.

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Quote:Like I said initially, Democrats in these states will never find what they don't look for. It's by design. That's why they are so against giving the federal government their voter rolls, to be checked for accuracy, or having any federal oversight in their elections. They aren't so defensive for no reason, and where there's smoke, there's often fire.

LOL Right out of the MAGA playbook. Piling on more bullshit on top of more bullshit. Still not a shred of evidence. The great thing about conspiracy theories is that they can't be disproven. So they must be happening, right?
It could be proven, but Democrats are fighting really hard to stop every means to do so. And because it largely benefits your favored side, you're perfectly willing to believe their justifications for keeping the election less secure... usually by the pretense of assuming minorities aren't as capable as other people.
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Quote:It could be proven, but Democrats are fighting really hard to stop every means to do so. And because it largely benefits your favored side, you're perfectly willing to believe their justifications for keeping the election less secure... usually by the pretense of assuming minorities aren't as capable as other people.

I see. So not only is it undetectable, but those awful Democrats are making it undetectable just to rake in all those illegal immigrant votes? lol No evidence whatsoever for this claim either I guess. We're basically in MAGA la-la land at this point, like with those baby-eating Satanists in Hollywood. Tell me, do you agree with your orange clown that the Democrats stole the 2020 election? Why not? It totally fits your paranoid conspiracist narrative.
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(11 hours ago)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:It could be proven, but Democrats are fighting really hard to stop every means to do so. And because it largely benefits your favored side, you're perfectly willing to believe their justifications for keeping the election less secure... usually by the pretense of assuming minorities aren't as capable as other people.

I see. So not only is it undetectable, but those awful Democrats are making it undetectable just to rake in all those illegal immigrant votes? lol No evidence whatsoever for this claim either I guess. We're basically in MAGA la-la land at this point, like with those baby-eating Satanists in Hollywood. Tell me, do you agree with your orange clown that the Democrats stole the 2020 election? Why not? It totally fits your paranoid conspiracist narrative.

No one said anything about "illegal immigrants." So I see you feel the need to erect strawmen, because you know you can't rebut the actual arguments made.
Personally, I don't know about the 2020 election, since there's far too little transparency to know. I do know an awful lot of Democrats have worked very hard to keep us from having transparency, and where there's smoke, there tends to be fire. Is it election-altering fire? I don't know. Could just be very localized people doing shady shit to enrich themselves.
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