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Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Magical Realist - Apr 4, 2026 Oregon has been voting by mail since 1998 with scarce to no evidence of fraud. The orange clown is just trying to make voting harder so Republicans will win more elections. 20 states are taking his ass to court arguing that it clearly violates the Constitution which designates states to be in charge of voting and not the federal govt. RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Syne - Apr 4, 2026 Who has been investigating fraud in Oregon? If anyone at all, wouldn't it be the Democrats who run that state? You never find any evidence if you never look for any. Personally, I think you should, at a bare minimum, being willing to get up off your lazy ass and make it to a polling place to vote. You know, in lieu of having any knowledge of civics or any actual skin in the game. RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Magical Realist - Apr 4, 2026 "Oregon elections are secure and protected against voter fraud in all but exceedingly rare instances. A review of the vote by mail system by the state’s Legislative Fiscal Office found from 2000-2019 there were approximately 61 million ballots cast. Of those, 38 criminal convictions of voter fraud were obtained. This amounts to a .00006% rate."--- https://sos.oregon.gov/elections/Pages/security.aspx "Despite this dramatic increase in mail voting over time, fraud rates remain infinitesimally small. None of the five states that hold their elections primarily by mail has had any voter fraud scandals since making that change. As the New York Times editorial board notes, “states that use vote-by-mail have encountered essentially zero fraud: Oregon, the pioneer in this area, has sent out more than 100 million mail-in ballots since 2000, and has documented only about a dozen cases of proven fraud.” That’s 0.00001 percent of all votes cast.*** An exhaustive investigative journalism analysis of all known voter fraud cases identified only 491 cases of absentee ballot fraud from 2000 to 2012. As election law professor Richard L. Hasen notes, during that period “literally billions of votes were cast.” While mail ballots are more susceptible to fraud than in-person voting, it is still more likely for an American to be struck by lightning than to commit mail voting fraud."-------- https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/false-narrative-vote-mail-fraud RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Syne - Apr 4, 2026 The Oregon state Legislative Fiscal Office is appointed by the Oregon legislature's Joint Committee on Ways and Means:
The Democratic Party has held a majority on this committee for over a decade, corresponding with their continuous control of the Oregon Legislature Again, has anyone actually investigated, or is this just the ones who happen to be caught? Has anyone cleaned the voter rolls? 9_9 RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Magical Realist - Apr 4, 2026 Quote:Again, has anyone actually investigated Yes dumbass..I just posted several investigations of mail-in voter fraud in several states and the percentage is ridiculously miniscule RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Syne - Apr 4, 2026 You posted the Oregon government ("review") and Brennan Center (which didn't even mention Oregon), both left leaning. Or did you forget we were talking about Oregon? Because that's literally how you started this thread. RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Magical Realist - Apr 4, 2026 Quote:You posted the Oregon government ("review") and Brennan Center (which didn't even mention Oregon), both left leaning. Yes they did. Read it again illiterate dupe: "Despite this dramatic increase in mail voting over time, fraud rates remain infinitesimally small. None of the five states that hold their elections primarily by mail has had any voter fraud scandals since making that change. As the New York Times editorial board notes, “states that use vote-by-mail have encountered essentially zero fraud: Oregon, the pioneer in this area, has sent out more than 100 million mail-in ballots since 2000, and has documented only about a dozen cases of proven fraud.” That’s 0.00001 percent of all votes cast.*** An exhaustive investigative journalism analysis of all known voter fraud cases identified only 491 cases of absentee ballot fraud from 2000 to 2012. As election law professor Richard L. Hasen notes, during that period “literally billions of votes were cast.” While mail ballots are more susceptible to fraud than in-person voting, it is still more likely for an American to be struck by lightning than to commit mail voting fraud." Here's some more studies: Studies Agree: Impersonation Fraud by Voters Very Rarely Happens "The Brennan Center’s seminal report on this issue, The Truth About Voter Fraud, found that most reported incidents of voter fraud are actually traceable to other sources, such as clerical errors or bad data matching practices. The report reviewed elections that had been meticulously studied for voter fraud, and found incident rates between 0.0003 percent and 0.0025 percent. Given this tiny incident rate for voter impersonation fraud, it is more likely, the report noted, that an American “will be struck by lightning than that he will impersonate another voter at the polls.” A study published by a Columbia University political scientist tracked incidence rates for voter fraud for two years, and found that the rare fraud that was reported generally could be traced to “false claims by the loser of a close race, mischief and administrative or voter error.” A 2017 analysis published in The Washington Post concluded that there is no evidence to support Trump’s claim that Massachusetts residents were bused into New Hampshire to vote. A comprehensive 2014 study published in The Washington Post found 31 credible instances of impersonation fraud from 2000 to 2014, out of more than 1 billion ballots cast. Even this tiny number is likely inflated, as the study’s author counted not just prosecutions or convictions, but any and all credible claims. Two studies done at Arizona State University, one in 2012 and another in 2016, found similarly negligible rates of impersonation fraud. The project found 10 cases of voter impersonation fraud nationwide from 2000–2012. The follow-up study, which looked for fraud specifically in states where politicians have argued that fraud is a pernicious problem, found zero successful prosecutions for impersonation fraud in five states from 2012–2016. A review of the 2016 election found four documented cases of voter fraud. Research into the 2016 election found no evidence of widespread voter fraud. A 2016 working paper concluded that the upper limit on double voting in the 2012 election was 0.02%. The paper noted that the incident rate was likely much lower, given audits conducted by the researchers showed that “many, if not all, of these apparent double votes could be a result of measurement error.” A 2014 paper concluded that “the likely percent of non-citizen voters in recent US elections is 0.” A 2014 nationwide study found “no evidence of widespread impersonation fraud” in the 2012 election. A 2014 study that examined impersonation fraud both at the polls and by mail ballot found zero instances in the jurisdictions studied. A 2014 study by the non-partisan Government Accountability Office, which reflected a literature review of the existing research on voter fraud, noted that the studies consistently found “few instances of in-person voter fraud.” While writing a 2012 book, a researcher went back 30 years to try to find an example of voter impersonation fraud determining the outcome of an election, but was unable to find even one. A 2012 study exhaustively pulled records from every state for all alleged election fraud, and found the overall fraud rate to be “infinitesimal” and impersonation fraud by voters at the polls to be the rarest fraud of all: only 10 cases alleged in 12 years. The same study found only 56 alleged cases of non-citizen voting, in 12 years. A 2012 assessment of Georgia’s 2006 election found “no evidence that election fraud was committed under the auspices of deceased registrants.” A 2011 study by the Republican National Lawyers Association found that, between 2000 and 2010, 21 states had 1 or 0 convictions for voter fraud or other kinds of voting irregularities. A 2010 book cataloguing reported incidents of voter fraud concluded that nearly all allegations turned out to be clerical errors or mistakes, not fraud. A 2009 analysis examined 12 states and found that fraud by voters was “very rare,” and also concluded that many of the cases that garnered media attention were ultimately unsubstantiated upon further review. Additional research on noncitizen voting can be found here: http://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/analysis-noncitizen-voting-vanishingly-rare. Additional resources can be found here: https://www.brennancenter.org/analysis/analysis-and-reports. RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Syne - Apr 4, 2026 (Yesterday 03:29 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:Liar. Do you really not know how easy it is to google some of that to find it's not from the link you posted about (which literally didn't mention Oregon even once).Quote:You posted the Oregon government ("review") and Brennan Center (which didn't even mention Oregon), both left leaning. You obviously googled this: https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/false-narrative-vote-mail-fraud ... to cover your ass on your earlier link. And the "New York Times editorial board" isn't any more credible as an unbiased source. 9_9 RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Magical Realist - Apr 4, 2026 No retard..this is the original link to that paragraph which I reposted because you're illiterate. I assumed you could actually infer if I reposted the same thing again that it was from the same linked webpage. Guess not. Your ineptness is abyssmal.. https://www.brennancenter.org/our-work/analysis-opinion/false-narrative-vote-mail-fraud RE: Trump bans voting by mail (with some exceptions) by executive order - Syne - Apr 4, 2026 (Yesterday 03:54 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: No retard..this is the original link to that paragraph which I reposted because you're illiterate. I assumed you could actually infer if I reposted the same thing again that it was from the same linked webpage. Guess not. Your ineptness is abyssmal.. Lying turd. Everyone can see you edited that post: "3 hours ago (This post was last modified: 1 minute ago by Magical Realist.)" Do you feel good about yourself? Having to lie so much? @_@ |