The phenomenon of innovative coincidence

[Magical Realist]

There is a noted effect in cultural and biological studies where when one idea or innovation is created it tends to start popping up everywhere else. The example of birds puncturing milk jug foil caps in Great Britain is one example. Soon the same species of birds were doing it all over Europe. The simultaneous discovery of calculus by both Newton and Leibniz is another. I believe writing or stating a thought or idea or observation therefore enables it to come up elsewhere all over the world. Somehow its coming into existence makes it more possible to come into existence from then on. Hence the importance of speaking your mind, however crazy it may sound! Like THIS thought! It very well might change the world.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/how-possi...mara-63qgf

[Syne]

Sure, if you don't have the agency to bring your ideas to life yourself.... why not let others do so, and reap the rewards.

[Magical Realist]

Sure, if you don't have the agency to bring your ideas to life yourself.

Only an egoist would worry about getting credit for it. The real aim is to just get the truth out there by whatever means and for whatever seekers.

[Syne]

Maybe some people just never have ideas worth anything, much less credit.

[Magical Realist]

Maybe some people just never have ideas worth anything, much less credit.

You certainly don't. I've never heard a bold original idea from you in my life.

[Syne]

Yes, I'm not going to share my unpatentented inventions.

[Magical Realist]

Sounds like the perfect mindset of someone only interested in helping themselves and not the world. You thereby doom yourself to an endless childhood--indeed orphanhood--surrounded only by your unshared and worthless baubles.

[Magical Realist]

"When Nobel laureates are announced annually—especially in physics, chemistry, physiology, medicine, and economics—increasingly, in the given field, rather than just a single laureate, there are two, or the maximally permissible three, who often have independently made the same discovery. Historians and sociologists have remarked the occurrence, in science, of "multiple independent discovery". Robert K. Merton defined such "multiples" as instances in which similar discoveries are made by scientists working independently of each other.[5][6] Merton contrasted a "multiple" with a "singleton"—a discovery that has been made uniquely by a single scientist or group of scientists working together.[7] As Merton said, "Sometimes the discoveries are simultaneous or almost so; sometimes a scientist will make a new discovery which, unknown to him, somebody else has made years before."

Commonly cited examples of multiple independent discovery are the 17th-century independent formulation of calculus by Isaac Newton, Gottfried Wilhelm Leibniz and others;[9] the 18th-century discovery of oxygen by Carl Wilhelm Scheele, Joseph Priestley, Antoine Lavoisier and others; and the theory of evolution of species, independently advanced in the 19th century by Charles Darwin and Alfred Russel Wallace.[10] What holds for discoveries, also goes for inventions. Examples are the blast furnace (invented independently in China, Europe and Africa), the crossbow (invented independently in China, Greece, Africa, northern Canada, and the Baltic countries),magnetism (discovered independently in Greece, China, and India), the computer mouse (both rolling and optical), powered flight, and the telephone.

Multiple independent discovery, however, is not limited to only a few historic instances involving giants of scientific research. Merton believed that it is multiple discoveries, rather than unique ones, that represent the common pattern in science."---- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multiple_discovery

[Syne]

Why would I give away ideas potentially worth a lot, and will take a lot of effort to develop/produce? Not anything you'd be interested in anyway. Most inventions fill a need but do not help the world in any altruistic sense.
Maybe people who never have such ideas undervalue how unique they are, akin to the chronically poor selfishly loving socialism. Rarity increases value. Unless you can produce ideas that have tangle value, you're preaching about things you cannot even offer. Like a child on the outside, peering through the display window.

[Magical Realist]

Unless you can produce ideas that have tangle value, you're preaching about things you cannot even offer. Like a child on the outside, peering through the display window.

Ideas have value far beyond just being new inventions. Ideas drive our society, our sciences, our arts, our politics, our cultural discourse, and our collective identity and future. And I have tons of them as posted in my "creative thoughts" thread as well as in the philosophy and weird and spiritual subfora. Your need to reduce "original ideas" to "inventions" shows you don't even grasp what those are. Which jibes with you never having any, at least not online. All you do is recite political talking points you learned from MAGA YouTube podcasts. Keep your secret gadgets to yourself. Nobody is interested in them anyway.