Article The proposed "real reason" that Israel attacked Iran

[Magical Realist]

However, the group has numerous ties and affiliations to progressive Democratic leaders and groups, as well as known left-leaning financial supporters.

Oopsie daisy. Genetic fallacy again.

Founder George Soros has sharply criticized Israeli

LOL You know you are talking to an alt right conspiracy theory nutjob when they mention George Soros. It's just a step away from the Hollywood vampire pedophiles.

[Syne]

No, that's literally what a major funder of your source has said. Notice how you don't disassociate yourself from such views, but prefer to criticize people simply bring it up.
When people tell you who they are, believe them. That's not a genetic fallacy.

See how MR continues to avoid the simple questions?

[Magical Realist]

No, that's literally what a major funder of your source has said.

It is you who is making the genetic fallacy by completely dismissing the report's veracity based in the political stripe of its affiliates and donors. How does that in any way logically entail that the information reported isn't true?

[Syne]

There is no veracity when you can clearly see the bias. Well... you can't see it... because it affirms your own.


See how MR continues to avoid the simple questions?

[Magical Realist]

There is no veracity when you can clearly see the bias.

LOL Then there is no possibility for stating the truth because even you a pro-Israel supporter have biases that invalidate your claims. That an organization has supporters that have political views in no way logically invalidates its information. It's just your pathetic excuse to deny what is actually happening in Gaza before the whole world.

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Going back to a post from Syne ( https://www.scivillage.com/thread-18234-...l#pid73138 ) and looking again at Youtube:

"Israel Gives Drone Video Proof To Deny False Hamas Claims That IDF Shot, Killed Gazans At Aid Center"

https://youtu.be/swX1eY5RYaM

Surprisingly these technologically advanced folk are using vhs quality film for this evidence..

Starts Late afternoonish
https://youtu.be/swX1eY5RYaM?t=113

Next..
Long shadows so early morning or late evening
https://youtu.be/swX1eY5RYaM?t=118
Looks like a gunman and someone got shot. The reaction of those around is 'mixed' .. ???

FWIW
Sunrise in Gaza 05:39 Wednesday, 25 June 2025 (EEST)
Sunset in Gaza 19:51 Wednesday, 25 June 2025 (EEST))

Then
Mid day now
https://youtu.be/swX1eY5RYaM?t=130
I think we're seeing bags being slashed by one man in a red circle and another man with just a red circle. There seems to be a woman wearing a white top .. could this possibly be Gaza? Africa perhaps?


If 'Israel' actually intended to present evidence I think they would have done it better - what they have presented here is for believers to believe - nothing more.

[Syne]

There is no veracity when you can clearly see the bias.

LOL Then there is no possibility for stating the truth because even you a pro-Israel supporter have biases that invalidate your claims. That an organization has supporters that have political views in no way logically invalidates its information. It's just your pathetic excuse to deny what is actually happening in Gaza before the whole world.

No, I have clearly shown, and you have verified, that you have a personal, emotional investment in your oppression ideology... parroted by every source you cite... and cannot answer simple questions related to your position. OTH, I don't have any personal motive, I cite a wide variety of sources (that even include the likes of The Palestinian Authority), and unlike you, I can answer any question about my position.

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C2, who said the video was of a single event? There are reports (I cite in that post) of both GHF and UN aid sites being attacked.

[Magical Realist]

I don't have any personal motive

Bullshit you don't. All you do is condemn reputable news sources and charities of antisemitism whenever they report how Israel is oppressing the Palestinian people. Then you quote Jewish newspapers to support your claims that it isn't happening. The whole world is wrong and you and Israel are right. That's being personally motivated to whitewash the atrocious treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli military. You are little more than a conspiracy theory nutjob mindlessly rooting for Israel and denying all the evidence that is right in front of you. Like I said before you are no better than a Holocaust denier spouting his lies and maintaining his mindless allegiance to his political regime despite all the evidence.

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C2, who said the video was of a single event? There are reports (I cite in that post) of both GHF and UN aid sites being attacked.

UN sites in Africa? Given the amount of misinformation anything that claims to be 'proof' of anything needs backup from satellite or google maps to show the scene is at least in the location it claims to be in. An obvious fail is when the clothing doesn't match the culture of the claimed location. To stoop to fabricating 'proof' suggests there is something to hide - better not to try than to fail. The attempt casts doubt on the claim that the IDF aren't indiscriminately killing - personally I suspect Hamas are also killing some which muddies the water somewhat.
Edit..
Many of those involved are scared, hungry, angry beyond containment and/or seeking revenge (both sides) - it doesn't surprise me that 'nice', 'normal' standards aren't being applied at all times.

[Syne]

I don't have any personal motive

Bullshit you don't. All you do is condemn reputable news sources and charities of antisemitism whenever they report how Israel is oppressing the Palestinian people. Then you quote Jewish newspapers to support your claims that it isn't happening. The whole world is wrong and you and Israel are right. That's being personally motivated to whitewash the atrocious treatment of Palestinians by the Israeli military. You are little more than a conspiracy theory nutjob mindlessly rooting for Israel and denying all the evidence that is right in front of you. Like I said before you are no worse than a Holocaust denier spouting his lies and maintaining his allegiance to his political regime.

Just like I said, "you can't see it... because it affirms your own."
See how you STILL ignore when I cite other Muslim countries and even the Palestinian Authority (you know, who rules the West Bank... that is in the exact same boat as the Gaza Strip, but without Hamas). After umpteen posts of me prodding you about these unanswered questions, you STILL don't have the intellectual honesty to even address them.. at all. That telegraphs to everyone that you know they are facts that are inconvenient to the narrative you parrot.

And you're a baldfaced hypocrite to whine about Jewish newspapers, since you know that's the same genetic fallacy that you keep whining about.

Since Oct 7th the whole world has seem a dramatic surge in irrefutable antisemitism.
https://time.com/7287941/rise-of-antisem...ed-states/
https://www.adl.org/resources/press-rele...-according
Nearly half of people across the globe harbor antisemitic beliefs, ADL says

You claiming I'm wrong doesn't make the case for me having a personal motivation. There's no conspiracy needed when the leftists in charge of many media outlets are chief among the global rise in antisemitism. That's just a lot of individual haters acting independently.

And like you completely failed to refute, you are a simple-minded child who roots for your team (the oppressed underdog, as you've freely admitted) no matter any facts or nuance.

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C2, who said the video was of a single event? There are reports (I cite in that post) of both GHF and UN aid sites being attacked.

UN sites in Africa? Given the amount of misinformation anything that claims to be 'proof' of anything needs backup from satellite or google maps to show the scene is at least in the location it claims to be in. An obvious fail is when the clothing doesn't match the culture of the claimed location. To stoop to fabricating 'proof' suggests there is something to hide - better not to try than to fail. The attempt casts doubt on the claim that the IDF aren't indiscriminately killing - personally I suspect Hamas are also killing some which muddies the water somewhat.
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Many of those involved are scared, hungry, angry beyond containment and/or seeking revenge (both sides)  - it doesn't surprise me that 'nice', 'normal' standards aren't being applied at all times.

Then where's your equivalent criteria for "proof" of Israel committing atrocities?
You seem eager to pass judgement based on you incredulity alone.
I see a lot of hijabs in the videos. Don't know why you'd think that was Africa.