Baptists rally to attack gay marriage again..

[Magical Realist]

The humane treatment of the mentally ill? Or the acceptance of LGBT?

[Syne]

The tolerance of stigmatized people in society in general.

What changes in the prejudice and discrimination attached to mental illness have occurred in the past 2 decades?

In this survey study of 4129 adults in the US, survey data from 1996 to 2006 showed improvements in public beliefs about the causes of schizophrenia and alcohol dependence, and data from a 2018 survey noted decreased rejection for depression. Changes in mental illness stigma appeared to be largely associated with age and generational shifts.
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To date, this survey study found the first evidence of significant decreases in public stigma toward depression.
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8693212/


Throughout most of the 20th century, sexual stigma kept homosexual and bisexual persons hidden and legitimized their abuse, but this stigma began to be challenged in the 1970s, after the Stonewall riots and the removal of homosexuality from the psychiatric manual of mental disorders.
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Among society at large, almost every survey finds dramatic changes in attitudes toward sexual minorities since the early 1990s,
- https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC8493181/

From what I can find, the tolerance of stigmatized people started earlier with gays.
Do you have any info that would suggest otherwise?

[Magical Realist]

The whole notion of stigma and its widespread presence in the mental health field rose up in the 70's and 80's, about the same time acceptance of LGBT began to take hold. Why would reducing the stigma surrounding being LGBT invalidate it as a real social problem in general? Do you have a problem with tolerance?

"A scientific concept on the stigma of mental disorders was first developed in the middle of the 20th century, first theoretically and eventually empirically in the 1970s. The book Stigma: Notes on the Management of Spoiled Identity, published in 1963 by the American sociologist Erwin Goffman, laid the foundation for stigma research as a scientific discipline and described how stigmatized persons deal with the challenge.

'There is no country, society or culture where people with mental illness have the same societal value as people without a mental illness.'

Several years later, an essay by Thomas Scheff triggered much discussion as he controversially described mental disorders as being merely the consequence of a labelling process. Scheff's idea was later modified by Bruce Link, who differentiated the various steps in adopting the role of a mentally ill person."

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5007563/

[Syne]

Who said reducing stigma invalidated any social problem?

[Magical Realist]

Evidently Baptists have a strong penchant for going backwards. "Make America Hate Again!"

[Syne]

Oh, you can't answer simple questions?
You'd rather get defensive and lash out?

Got it. Socratic reasoning triggered you.

[C C]

Going backwards seems to be a popular move for the Biblethumpers...

"The Southern Baptist Convention voted overwhelmingly on Tuesday to call for the overturning of the Supreme Court ruling that legalized same-sex marriage, with strategists citing the successful effort that overturned the right to legal abortions as a possible blueprint for the new fight.

[...] https://www.nytimes.com/2025/06/10/us/so...riage.html

Misplaced ambitions. Abortions never established human relationships (parental ones in that context) which could later be under threat, but instead interrupted them from coming about. So it's a whole different matter to [cruelly] undo what exists: Formally slash legally established domestic alliances.

Officially recognized monogamy (as an alternative to porn-like lifestyles) is arguably a necessary foundation for civilization. While heterosexuals have long demonstrated that marriage can be a compromised platform for launching various sexual fetishes (serial adultery, swinging, cuckolding, open marriage, polygamy, etc)... Despite those shortcomings in terms of individual or localized instances, marriage is still a general step in the right direction for a population (contrasted with any spiraling degradation or dysfunctional ambience of the alternatives).

[Syne]

Nothing misplaced about it. It has nothing to do with abortion.