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Zinjanthropos
Jun 29, 2024 04:00 PM
I’d take Trump over Biden any day. I don’t like the USA showing any weaknesses to the despots of the world. You can try and be nice, kowtow to the minorities, protest wars all you want but at the end of the day there are still people all over the world who want to blow your head off with a smile on their face.
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C C
Jun 29, 2024 05:40 PM
Jill Biden had to help JB down the stairs after the debate. Why can't they allow the poor man to at least have a cane?
https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1806519960635588687
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Zinjanthropos
Jun 29, 2024 06:04 PM
(Jun 29, 2024 05:40 PM)C C Wrote: Jill Biden had to help JB down the stairs after the debate. Why can't they allow the poor man to at least have a cane?
https://x.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1806519960635588687
Why wouldn’t the Dems be completely honest about Joe’s condition? How can being honest be a bad thing?
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Syne
Jun 29, 2024 07:39 PM
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(Jun 29, 2024 06:04 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Why wouldn’t the Dems be completely honest about Joe’s condition? How can being honest be a bad thing?
10 Biden Allies Who Promised Us He Was Fine Weeks Ago
My opinion? Because they don't respect their own voters. They think their voters are morons who would will never look beyond what these people tell them.
Problem is, it's likely true. Most Democrat voters don't research beyond what CNN, MSNBC, etc. tell them. They like big government to tell them what to do and how to think. Just as long as you tell them they are good people for voting Democrat, that seems to be as far as it goes.
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Magical Realist
Jun 29, 2024 08:20 PM
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Quote:And you obviously have TDS.
Not at all. I am merely applying to Trump the same moral standards as I apply to anyone else in a position, especially a representative position, of power. If a CEO of a corporation behaved anywhere near the way Trump behaves he would be ousted immediately. If even a senator behaved the same way and lied and treated people like shit and sexually assaulted dozens of women like Trump has, he'd be banned from office. There are simply basic minimum standards in place for people behaving morally and honestly while holding office, and Trump constantly fails to meet them. If anybody has a syndrome, it is people like you who continue to support such a obvious and incompetent charlatan and douchebag just to further your political agenda.
Quote:And if the "worst president in American history" created historically low minority unemployment and the lowest unemployment generally in 50 years, you're a selfish prick if you'd rather more people suffer under Biden's economy. Apparently, your hate for Trump far surpasses any compassion you might have for your fellow Americas. Your widdle feeling making you a selfish prick.
Actually the President doesn't have as much control over the economy as most people think he does. I've long suspected it was a faulty correlation. Little more than a convenient fiction of campaign rhetoric. Now here's the proof:
"Listen to a president’s opponents, or supporters, for even just a few minutes and, in all likelihood, you will hear some reference to the national economy. At first glance, this seems reasonable; perhaps even refreshingly non-partisan. After all, the economy offers an objective, fair-game metric by which we can evaluate a president’s performance, right?
Unfortunately, no. A host of biases and partisan motivations make it nearly impossible to use “the economy” as anything resembling an objective standard. But, even more fundamentally, and in spite of what many Americans believe, several basic facts reveal the limited influence that a president actually wields over the national economy at any given time.."
https://bigthink.com/the-present/5-reaso...l-economy/
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Syne
Jun 29, 2024 11:50 PM
So you moralize with no concern about actual outcomes, because he offends your delicate sensitivities. Trump was a CEO, and not ousted. Either House of Congress can vote to not seat a member (but SCOTUS in 1969 ruled they can only do so for not meeting the Constitutional requirements of office... otherwise they'd be disenfranchising voters). So no, you're claims are patently false. You're a naive child if you really think that there are morality and honestly standards for politicians... of all people.
So I guess you're either not voting or throwing your vote away on some no-shot independent, huh? Otherwise, you're supporting a senile old man subject to elder abuse as a political puppet. If the former, your opinion is moot, as it won't make any difference. You can impotently crow about your supposed high morality all you like. If the latter, you're a hypocrite whining about others furthering their political agenda.
And apparently neither you nor your cited poli-sci understand the basics of investor confidence nor the actual direct effects of lowering corporate taxes (neither of which mentioned in that article). Obama's policies led to anemic economic growth and Biden's has turned what should have been a relatively quick natural rebound following any natural disaster into a protracted flirting with serious recession. You can go find all the non-economist (or leftie economist) affirmations of your existing bias all you like. It simply doesn't change the facts.
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Magical Realist
Jun 30, 2024 12:33 AM
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Quote:You're a naive child if you really think that there are morality and honestly standards for politicians... of all people.
That's rich coming from the party of the right--the bible-thumping "family values" mob who routinely attacks politicians for supporting abortion, gay and trans rights, "lazy" welfare recipients, sex in school library books, "criminal" immigrants, and public education for being too secular and immoral. You do remember morality don't you? Supposedly that once distinctive and laudable mix of personal responsibility and integrity you all fervently demand everyone to exercise except for your sleaze ball crook of a president. So no...I don't vote for narcissistic sociopathic liars to represent my country to the world. And many others besides me won't either, even in your own party: https://www.politico.com/news/2024/01/23...m-00137112
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Syne
Jun 30, 2024 03:37 AM
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So you've NEVER heard the saying "if a politician's lips are moving, he's lying." Such stereotypes exist for a reason, even if it's as innocent as not being able to deliver on campaign promises due to the political circumstances. I guess you also think lawyers and car salesmen are known for being honest.
I'm not "the party." I'm not a politician nor do I represent anyone but myself. That said, individual politicians may be more honest or moral, but that is not the default assumption... again, unless you're terribly naive. The default assumption is that people seeking power, especially political power, are self-serving, power hungry, and willing to tell people what they want to hear in order to gain and maintain power. Morality and honesty are relatively unique in a politician.
Politico is leftist and RINOs are de facto Democrats. If you'll vote for people who support abortion, trans treatments for minors, etc., you're no Republican, much less a conservative. So you citing them is meaningless self-soothing twaddle.
I'm not sure who you imagine has claimed Trump is some paragon of morality. To the contrary, most conservatives will tell you that God uses broken/flawed people. Voting for him isn't a blanket approval of all his actions, past or present. Maybe you condone everything the people you vote for have ever done. If so, I'd love to know who you've voted for.
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Magical Realist
Jun 30, 2024 03:53 AM
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Quote:Maybe you condone everything the people you vote for have ever done. If so, I'd love to know who you've voted for.
Ofcourse I do. Obama is an example of one such candidate I voted for. You are so far astray any sort of stable moral compass you seem to think that it's unrealistic to expect political candidates to be moral and honest human beings. I guess constantly trying to rationalize away Trump's sleazy antics does that to you after awhile. You can only compromise your moral principles for so long before they eventually fade away. TFS...Trump Fixation Syndrome.
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Syne
Jun 30, 2024 04:22 AM
Really? So you're proud of how Obama ruined race relations in this country? What about the lie "if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor?" What about promising to shut down Guantanamo? I'm sure you think it's fine to weaponize the IRS against political opponents, so I won't even ask about that. Ever hear of Operation Fast and Furious, intentionally selling guns to cartels? Drone strikes in Pakistan killing four Americans? His "red line" for Syria using chemical weapons, which led to Putin being named Times' Person of the Year, for stepping in to disarm Syria?
Any of that even remotely ring a bell?
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