Article  JB was just suffering from a cold (fashions in debate)

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Axios (a very pro-democrat outlet) has published what they say is the Biden campaign's post-debate strategy:

Based on our weekend conversations with top officials and advisers, here's the Biden survival strategy:

1. Dismiss "bedwetting." The official White House and campaign line is this is much ado about nothing — that Biden works so hard it drains his young staff. This attitude is driving elected officials and donors — basically any top Democrat not on the Biden payroll — nuts. They feel it's delusional. Nonetheless, Biden allies are cranking out data and pushing out surrogates to insist he had one bad night, mostly because of a scratchy voice and over-preparation.

2. Squeeze polls for juice. Biden allies are circulating polls and focus group results showing the debate did little to change the dynamics of the race. They're ignoring contrarian results — like a CBS/YouGov poll out Sunday that shows a surge in voters who think Biden is not up for the job. If you're to believe the polls: Voters thought Biden lost the debate and seemed too old. But there's little evidence they're moving fast to Trump. Both seem true.

3. Warn of chaos. Biden allies are making plain in private conversations the perils of an open convention — and the risk of picking a Democrat even more unpopular than Biden, namely Vice President Kamala Harris. They know Biden just needs to make it to the Democratic convention in Chicago, which opens eight weeks from today. After that, unity is the only choice.

4. Limit dissent. Biden allies helped orchestrate the supportive tweets by former Presidents Clinton and Obama. Those happened after furious back-channeling by allies. Truth is, that was the easy part.

5. Keep elected leaders close. The White House knows Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Hakeem Jeffries are deeply concerned that an unpopular Biden could cost them seats on Election Day. Their members in tough races are scared, and several plan to run away from Biden. Former Sen. Tom Harkin, who served with Biden in the Senate for 20+ years, said in an email to supporters that the debate was "a disaster from which Biden cannot recover."

6. Get the donor class to chill. Jeffery Katzenberg and other top Biden backers are working the phones to reassure the deep pockets, while the campaign and DNC keep turning out fundraising appeals and highlighting successes. Some donors are blaming the staff — not the man on stage. John Morgan, a Florida personal-injury-law magnate who's a top Democratic donor, tweeted Sunday that Biden's debate-prep team is guilty of political malpractice: "Format was a disaster for him and a plus for Trump. He over practiced and was drained."

7. Prove vitality. Words can't capture how elated top officials were that Biden was as vigorous as he was at a rally in North Carolina the day after the debate. They're looking for as many opportunities as possible to show that he's still on his game and not too old for the gig. They know words are useless — they need vitality in action.

8. Ignore/engage the media. On the one hand, Biden allies want everyone to ignore the prominent columnists who loved Biden and are now calling for his resignation. On the other, the campaign and White House are deeply engaged with reporters (like us) writing about presidential fitness.

What's next: Biden's kitchen cabinet sees a recipe for a narrow victory that includes a grand-slam speech at the Democratic convention in Chicago + a strong showing in the next second debate + positive economic news in the fall (maybe a Fed rate cut).

The bottom line: Biden's camp believes voters will give more weight to Biden's judgment and record than to his grandpa gait or fading debate dexterity. It's one of the greatest gambles in the history of politics. Once again, Biden's team is telling Democratic voters: You just have to believe.
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#32
Syne Offline
For every vote for Biden a fairy's life is saved.
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#33
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(Jul 3, 2024 01:29 AM)Yazata Wrote: Axios (a very pro-democrat outlet) has published what they say is the Biden campaign's post-debate strategy:

Based on our weekend conversations with top officials and advisers, here's the Biden survival strategy:

1. Dismiss "bedwetting." The official White House and campaign line is this is much ado about nothing — that Biden works so hard it drains his young staff. This attitude is driving elected officials and donors — basically any top Democrat not on the Biden payroll — nuts. They feel it's delusional. Nonetheless, Biden allies are cranking out data and pushing out surrogates to insist he had one bad night, mostly because of a scratchy voice and over-preparation.

2. Squeeze polls for juice. Biden allies are circulating polls and focus group results showing the debate did little to change the dynamics of the race. They're ignoring contrarian results — like a CBS/YouGov poll out Sunday that shows a surge in voters who think Biden is not up for the job. If you're to believe the polls: Voters thought Biden lost the debate and seemed too old. But there's little evidence they're moving fast to Trump. Both seem true. [...]

All good for the Trump campaign, that the Biden political machine never falters in its determination and conviction to continue.
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Biden is facing a full-scale rebellion in democratic party ranks. Pressure for Biden to drop out as the 2024 democratic Presidential candidate is becoming really super-intense.

Why are the democrats in full freak-out mode??

Apparently the dems are becoming convinced that Biden can't possibly win in November. (Which is why I want him to remain in the race.)

Just today, some unknown dems leaked what is said to be the party's own internal polling, showing Trump ahead in states with 333 electoral votes, with Biden ahead in states with 205. Somebody is clearly trying to pressure Biden to drop out of the 2024 race. 


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The thing is that even before the debate, Trump seemed to have the electoral college edge. If he won all of his 2020 states, plus Nevada, Arizona and Georgia (where he was ahead) he would only need one more state. The three "battleground" states were Pennnsylvania, Michigan and Wisconsin, where Trump either had small leads or was only behind narrowly. Everyone thought it was likely that he would take at least one of the three.

So Biden was still competitive, but was perceived to be slipping and under a lot of pressure to turn things around with a strong debate performance. That's why he agreed to debate in the first place. Big mistake.

As we all know, Biden's debate performance was a disaster. Now post-debate, it looks like Trump has a comfortable lead in all three of the former battleground states. What's more, he's apparently pulled narrowly ahead in three more states - New Hampshire, Virginia and New Mexico. And he's within half a percent in Maine and (believe it or not) Minnesota (one of the blueist states, the home of BLM, defund the police and Ilhan Omar).

So... the democrats are hysterical and are freaking out.


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The latest Reuters/Ipsos poll, of about 1,000 people, puts Trump and Biden dead even, everyone else losing to Trump, and Michelle Obama beating Trump by 11 points.

Even if that's a fairly representative sample (which it usually isn't, due to self-selection bias), I'm optimistic. Even with the news cycle trying to divert to the fear-mongering of supposed 100% immunity for Trump, the memes of Biden will only continue to spread. I'm not worried about Michelle either. At least Hillary had served as an elected senator and appointed secretary of state. Michelle has no significant political experience and no private business acumen. She only has the afterglow of Barack, for what it's worth.

She would have to establish her political policy goals from scratch, with zero record as a leader. In the current uncertainty of the economy, crime, international conflict, etc., who's going to take that gamble other that the terminally TDS?
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July 10, 2024 RealClearPolitics Election 2024

RCP Poll Averages

Election 2024 Trump Biden Spread
RCP Poll Average 47.3 44.0 Trump +3.3
5-Way RCP Average 42.8 37.9 Trump +4.9
Top Battlegrounds 47.5 43.5 Trump +4.0
Favorability Ratings -10.7 -17.9 Trump +7.2
RCP Betting Odds 58.0 15.2

Electoral College Trump Biden Toss Ups
RCP Electoral Map 219 198 121
No Toss Up States 312 226

Battlegrounds Trump Biden Spread
Arizona 47.6 42.2 Trump +5.4
Nevada 48.0 42.8 Trump +5.2
Wisconsin 48.0 45.8 Trump +2.2
Michigan 46.0 45.4 Trump +0.6
Pennsylvania 48.8 43.5 Trump +5.3
Virginia 43.3 45.5 Biden +2.2
Georgia 46.5 42.5 Trump +4.0
Battle for Congress GOP Dems
U.S. Senate 50 43 7 TU
Generic Ballot 45.4 44.5 GOP +0.9

Source:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/
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