Ghost in the basement cellphone video

[Magical Realist]

You can believe whatever you want about me. It doesn't effect me in the least. But the evidence I present here, as in the video of the basement haunting, stands on its own as authentic and compelling. And when the only attempts to debunk I get are ridiculous tales about dogs in driers and tap dancing deer, I know I have made my point well. The question is no longer IF ghosts exist. Rather it's what are YOU going to do now that you know they do. Only one option really: live in the mystery!

[Syne]

Oh, I'm sure you think it's authentic and compelling. Apparently you don't have a sufficiently developed theory of mind to understand anything else. Whether it's narcissism or solipsism, doesn't really matter.

[Zinjanthropos]

Difference is this, the skeptic doesn’t claim the alternatives to be true whereas the claimants are convinced it’s whatever they themselves think it is. In this most recent claim there are many scenarios that could come into play but the claimant is fixated on one, no proof of and dubious at best.

Then again, in true skeptic style, the claimant may not believe a word s/he says. It is the internet for crying out loud.

[Syne]

That's true. We're just throwing out plausible explanations, based on real world experience. The "true believer" is claiming the extraordinary possibility without corresponding extraordinary evidence. It's only "compelling" to such "true believers."

[Magical Realist]

We're just throwing out plausible explanations

Actually you're just throwing out any implausible bullshit at all hoping it will stick. And when it doesn't you get all upset with me for posting the video or account. It's a pattern I've seen many times with skeptics and am quite used to it. People will resort to any ad hoc scenario whatsoever no matter how improbable in order to explain away something that is clearly unexplained and extraordinary. As the Beatles sang: "Nothing's gonna change my world.."

[Syne]

No one's upset at you posting your usual nonsense. It's quite expected. But you seem pretty upset that we aren't just blithely agreeing with you. In the interest of your mental health, you might consider taking a break. Again, I realize that you don't have sufficiently developed theory of mind, but we're just giving readily available explanations based on real world experiences. Contrast that with you saying "huh-uh, it is clearly unexplainable." That's just you admitting you can't fathom an explanation, even when offered several. That's your own problem. If it makes you that mad, maybe take a break.

But the Beatles projection is cute.

[Magical Realist]

but we're just giving readily available explanations based on real world experiences

Really? So when have you and Zin ever experienced dogs getting in dryers and running like a hamster or a deer tapdancing in someone's difficult to access and downstairs basement unbeknownst to the homeowners? Real world? Right. You wouldn't know the real world if it bit you on the ass!

At this point there is simply nothing left for you to argue against. The evidence is incontravertible. It is what it is. So just repeat after me: "Ghosts are real and unpredictable beings. And they sometimes haunt the houses of human beings." There, now that wasn't so bad was it?

[Syne]

I don't know anything about dogs in dyers. But I've seen countless videos of deer that have broken through doors or windows and can't find their way out of a house. I've also seen countless videos of many animals, including deer, having a lot of trouble keeping their paws/hooves under them on wood/concrete/etc. flooring. I've personally found a bird in my house, unbeknownst to me, and only later figured out that it smashed through a window that was hidden behind closed blinds... while we weren't home to hear it. Not hard to imagine coming home to some other animal in the house, unbeknownst to what it was or how it got there.

Again, you're using words contrary to their actual definitions.
incontrovertible - not able to be denied or disputed

We're clearly denying and disputing what you claim, no matter how hard you try to bury your head in the sand and yell "nah, nah, nah, I can't hear you."

[Magical Realist]

Oh wow...Well ya know I once saw a bird run into a closed window. So yeah.. I guess that means deer sneak into people's basements all the time and make regular interval bangs to get their attention. It's all so clear to me now. Thanks for enlightening me with your "real world experience"! lol

[Syne]

Not ran into... smashed through the window.. when no one was around to hear it... hence no sneaking involved. See how hard you have to work to salvage your claims?

Some deer do make fairly regular noises when enclosed:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/PAc3z9Ptgzc

Here's even a deer breaking in through a window and not figuring out how to get out the same way... complete with stumbling about on the smooth flooring:

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/O-_BS6fQYfk
Plenty of similar examples.

If you haven't already seen similar videos, it makes me wonder what you spend all your time on the internet doing. Hopefully just very busy looking for things to affirm your beliefs.