SyneJul 24, 2025 09:02 PM (This post was last modified: Jul 24, 2025 09:07 PM by Syne.)
(Jul 24, 2025 07:11 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:There is no "meaning" to moss, no matter how much you attempt to take single words out of context.
Ofcourse there is. As opposed to just a meaningless blob or smear on the film? It is an actual physical object that has meaning, just as your definition stated:
"Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none."
Too bad you're so inept with the English language that you don't understand the obvious.
Pattern and meaning refer to significance.
Common examples include perceived images of animals, faces, or objects in cloud formations; seeing faces in inanimate objects; or lunar pareidolia like the Man in the Moon or the Moon rabbit. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pareidolia
If you could read/comprehended anything beyond your affirmation bias, you 'd see that the substrate of the pareidolia, e.g. moss, clouds, moon, etc., is not the pareidolia.
For your nonsense to hold water, you'd have to give a reasonable substrate from which to perceive moss, but a ghost (more significance) is not a pareidolia substrate for moss (less significance). Pareidolia is literally defined as imposing more meaning that the substrate, e.g. (meaning where there is none).
But I'm sure all of this, as simple and straight forward as it is, is well beyond your comprehension skills.
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Quote:You obviously don't comprehend simple things, like forced perspective.
Well, no accounting for dumb.
Oh so complicated now. If it were just a palm branch, it would look like one all the way thru the video. It doesn't. It is clearly some amorphous shape that rises up into the tree, beyond the reach of a toddler, and falling down moments later. Even as it falls it is changing shape. That means it is no branch.
It does look like a palm leaf throughout. Too bad your bias negatively impacts your perceptions skills on such a basic level.
You do realize that things look different from different angles, right? You know that a palm leaf is relatively flat from the side and broad from the front.... right? @_@
You can see the gifs I'm posting, right? Why can't you explain the arcing motion that doesn't "fall out of the tree"? [Image: FeaqJte.gif]
Quote:Too bad you're so inept with the English language that you don't understand the obvious. Pattern and meaning refer to significance.
Oops..you deliberately left out "object" which covers everything that physically exists, from faces, to dogs, to penises, to palm leaves, to moss. The "substrate" is the amorphous blob we are interpreting as an object. Which is exactly what you're doing with the moss. Hang it up bitch. You're done here.
Quote:You do realize that things look different from different angles, right? You know that a palm leaf is relatively flat from the side and broad from the front.... right?
Oh so now the leaf is spinning around. What would be doing that? The little toddler who can't reach high enough to put a palm leaf in a tree nor pull it down again? lol Typical pareidolia here. You see only what you want to see. You project as "there" what relieves you from having to believe in the paranormal. Hence your long line of ludicrous ad hoc canards like overnight old lady interlopers and sneaky deer break-ins and clouds of gnats.
SyneJul 24, 2025 10:38 PM (This post was last modified: Jul 25, 2025 02:04 AM by Syne.)
(Jul 24, 2025 09:23 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Too bad you're so inept with the English language that you don't understand the obvious. Pattern and meaning refer to significance.
Oops..you deliberately left out "object" which covers everything that physically exists, from faces, to dogs, to penises, to palm leaves, to moss. The "substrate" is the amorphous blob we are interpreting as an object. Which is exactly what you're doing with the moss. Hang it up bitch. You're done here.
If you could stop cherry-picking:
Pareidolia is the tendency for perception to impose a meaningful interpretation on a nebulous stimulus, usually visual, so that one detects an object, pattern, or meaning where there is none. - wiki
Get that? "Impose a meaningful significance... so that one detects an object, pattern, of meaning."
Without "imposing meaningful significance" beyond that of the substrate is it not pareidolia.
Even if you don't agree that it's moss, you've now dug yourself such a deep hole that you've admitted that it is pareidolia of an "amorphous blob." Your own words, moron.
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Quote:You do realize that things look different from different angles, right? You know that a palm leaf is relatively flat from the side and broad from the front.... right?
Oh so now the leaf is spinning around. What would be doing that? The little toddler who can't reach high enough to put a palm leaf in a tree nor pull it down again? lol Typical pareidolia here. You see only what you want to see. You project as "there" what relieves you from having to believe in the paranormal. Hence your long line of ludicrous ad hoc canards like overnight old lady interlopers and sneaky deer break-ins and clouds of gnats.
The leaf is moving exactly as it would being handled, as people do not handle things in a robotic fashion that always keeps the face to the viewer, especially if that person is a child. Wind resistance on a leaf being moved tends to make it flatten against the resistance. Again, if you only understood the simplest things about basic physics. 9_9
Dumbass straw man again, as I've repeatedly told (and shown) you that the leaf is never "in the tree." It's in plain view from when it's lifted to when it falls. Even though you claim to have seen a palm leaf before, you seem ignorant of the fact that they have stems and can be quite long.
You're still desperately avoiding the question: Why can't you explain the arcing motion that doesn't "fall out of the tree"? [Image: FeaqJte.gif]
Quote:Get that? "Impose a meaningful significance... so that one detects an object, pattern, of meaning." Without "imposing meaningful significance" beyond that of the substrate is it not pareidolia.
Right..As in saying a dark translucent shape is some dangling moss. The shape is meaningless until you impose meaning on it as an "object or pattern". Pure pareidolia.
Quote:The leaf is moving exactly as it would being handled, as people do not handle things in a robotic fashion that always keeps the face to the viewer, especially if that person is a child.
Unfortunately as I've repeatedly said a toddler just isn't tall enough nor so inclined to move the alleged palm leaf in such a fashion. It moves as if moving by itself and then dropping down as an elongated blob from the tree. Once again the leaf canard fails miserably.
MR has to go silent, because he obviously can't refute the obvious. That the palm leaf was never "in the tree" and clearly arced from the ground to the right of the headstone and tossed to the left. It's clear as day.