Ghost on a rollercoaster

#11
Magical Realist Online
Oh so now deceptive editing AND ducking down. Yeah, that makes perfect sense. He must've been ducking down just at the right second to avoid being caught on video. Or something something....insert next ridiculous carnard...And the plot thickens!
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#12
Syne Offline
The YouTube video obviously did their own editing, completely independent of the source video. They just make the choice to cut it so it's more sudden than the original they just showed you. I guess they bank on gullible people also having zero memory retention.

The video clearly shows something blocking the red seat back of ONLY the last car before then showing the guy in that car. The edit just happens to cut around that part. But I guess that's all completely irrelevant coincidence, and just a distraction from the obvious "ghoul." Guy was caught ducking down on video. You're just so gullible you missed the obvious video editing... even when they showed you the original beforehand. No wonder people do so many of these videos. So easy to earn ad revenue when they can literally show you the trick and you still believe it's real magic.

All your straw-manning just shows how defensive you are.
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#13
Zinjanthropos Offline
(Jul 13, 2024 05:55 AM)Syne Wrote: The YouTube video obviously did their own editing, completely independent of the source video. They just make the choice to cut it so it's more sudden than the original they just showed you. I guess they bank on gullible people also having zero memory retention.

The video clearly shows something blocking the red seat back of ONLY the last car before then showing the guy in that car. The edit just happens to cut around that part. But I guess that's all completely irrelevant coincidence, and just a distraction from the obvious "ghoul." Guy was caught ducking down on video. You're just so gullible you missed the obvious video editing... even when they showed you the original beforehand. No wonder people do so many of these videos. So easy to earn ad revenue when they can literally show you the trick and you still believe it's real magic.

All your straw-manning just shows how defensive you are.

My problem is that I'm even skeptical of MR. No one can be that ignorant of contrary evidence. He's like the knight of Holy Grail fame losing a few limbs but keeping on chugging. That has my guard up as to whether he's just being stupid on purpose in orderto illicit a negative response from us critics or insane. So might as well stay with the suspicion of MR being completely nuts. Makes for more interesting posts.and reflective of the whole paranormal industry.
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#14
Syne Offline
I use to wonder if MR was just trolling, but it's just far too consistent. So between this pattern of behavior and the admitted voices in his head, I just chalk it up to garden variety mental illness. But he does seem to be a good stand-in for the entire paranormal/UFO-believing community. The same complete lack of logic, scrutiny, skepticism, hard evidence, and an unflinching belief in what he's told to think... akin to anyone in a cult or fundamentalist religion. Seems to be the way it goes for almost anyone from a former religious upbringing. They find a substitute, like the paranormal, woo-woo spiritualism, big daddy government, etc..
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#15
Magical Realist Online
LOL The unsolicited hostility and belittlement runneth over.

“I mean, maybe I am crazy. I mean, maybe. But if this is all there is, then I don't want to be sane.”
― Neil Gaiman, Neverwhere
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#16
Magical Realist Online
Here's the full unedited video sent in to a Youtube channel. Clearly no trickery is involved in the editing at all. And Syne is right. Right before the shot of the figure being in the car, there is a brief glimpse of a low shadow in it. This doesn't mean he was ducking down. It means there was a formation moment of the ghost as they are often seen to do. Starts as a blob and then sharpens into a distinct figure. So no, it's not proof he was ducking down during the first part of the ride. Nobody would ever do that. It's simply compelling proof of the paranormal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmffNPRZPuQ
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#17
C C Offline
(Jul 13, 2024 09:27 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Here's the full unedited video sent in to a Youtube channel. Clearly no trickery is involved in the editing at all. And Syne is right. Right before the shot of the figure being in the car, there is a brief glimpse of a low shadow in it. This doesn't mean he was ducking down. It means there was a formation moment of the ghost as they are often seen to do. Starts as a blob and then sharpens into a distinct figure. So no, it's not proof he was ducking down during the first part of the ride. Nobody would ever do that. It's simply compelling proof of the paranormal.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmffNPRZPuQ

Just to get it straight:

At the 5:42 mark, the end cart is still empty.

At the 5:55 or 5:56 mark, there is arguably a vague, faint and unstable darkness becoming associated with the end cart.

At the 6:08 mark, there is clearly a figure seated in it.

Going back to circa 5:55, the heavy smudging and pixelation doesn't help (might just be shadows falling on the red seat). If stopped at one frame of the 5:57 mark, there seems to be a faint, translucent blur projecting above the seat. But letting it go forward frame by frame, much of that wavery "vertical blur" remains behind as something outside the cart that just became temporarily aligned with it. With only the red seat itself appearing potentially "dark-ish" in the instant afterward. Again, due to the smudgy lack of detail, it's not clear the red seat was being partially obscured by a crouched occupant or by passing shadow effects from surrounding structure.

The mother apparently was the one doing the filming. Probably no hope of getting any input from her as to what she saw while constantly facing rearward, or if she ever paid any attention to the last cart (surely too preoccupied with capturing father and son in the recording).
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#18
Syne Offline
Well, I'm convinced.


Definitely a guy hiding in the car. The choices are either that, which is clearly possible, or believing in things I've never personally witnesses and must take on pure faith on the word and vague perceptions of those who claim to have. Sane people evaluate reality based on personal experience, facts, and hard evidence. Now, if you have a lot of personal experience with ghosts, and not have any history of mental illness (which probably excludes MR on both counts), I can see why you'd believe. But if you have little to no personal experience, you only believe because you want to... on faith.
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