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Nov 25, 2021 05:10 AM
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(Nov 25, 2021 04:09 AM)Leigha Wrote: MR - what is the difference between a ghost and poltergeist? Are poltergeists “known” for moving objects and making noises? I’m wondering how ghost hunters differentiate between the two.
A poltergeist is technically a kind of ghost that is known to move objects, make noises, set fires, affect electricity, etc. Poltergeist phenomena are when objects move by themselves. It may not be a poltergeist per se behind the phenomena as any ghost can move things. Is that clear as mud? 
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Nov 25, 2021 05:20 AM
(Nov 25, 2021 05:10 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Nov 25, 2021 04:09 AM)Leigha Wrote: MR - what is the difference between a ghost and poltergeist? Are poltergeists “known” for moving objects and making noises? I’m wondering how ghost hunters differentiate between the two.
A poltergeist is technically a kind of ghost that is known to move objects, make noises, set fires, etc. Poltergeist phenomena are when objects move by themselves. It may not be a poltergeist per se behind the phenomena as any ghost can move things. Is that clear as mud?
Thanks. If we go with the superstitious definition of paranormal activity...it's not easy being ''between worlds.'' 
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Nov 25, 2021 06:25 PM
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(Nov 25, 2021 05:07 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Do you know what kind of hinges are on the doors? Pins? Are they straight? Automatic self closing? Hydraulic? Self closing? Are cupboards plumb? Was it proven that door had never done this before? We’re all other probable causes of door behaviour ruled out? Why do ghosts on video declarations never come with a professional investigator’s report? Cupboard door installer or carpenter opinions perhaps?
To be more convincing it might have been better to not have scissors and tape in the video. Makes it look like they might have just been used for the invisible thread trick.
LOL Explain how crooked hinges and shoddy carpentry can make a cabinet door open and close by itself. If you can, then you've got quite an invention there!
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Nov 25, 2021 06:51 PM
(Nov 25, 2021 05:07 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: To be more convincing it might have been better to not have scissors and tape in the video. Makes it look like they might have just been used for the invisible thread trick.
This.
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Nov 25, 2021 07:07 PM
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(Nov 25, 2021 06:51 PM)Syne Wrote: (Nov 25, 2021 05:07 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: To be more convincing it might have been better to not have scissors and tape in the video. Makes it look like they might have just been used for the invisible thread trick.
This.
Where's the string? Oh right..It's "invisible"..lol!
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Nov 25, 2021 08:11 PM
(Nov 25, 2021 07:07 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Where's the string? Oh right..It's "invisible"..lol!
Did you even bother to watch the magician demonstrating "invisible" string? No? You're just a blathering true believer who can't stand anything that may threaten your irrational beliefs?
Got it.
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Nov 25, 2021 08:43 PM
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(Nov 25, 2021 08:11 PM)Syne Wrote: (Nov 25, 2021 07:07 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Where's the string? Oh right..It's "invisible"..lol!
Did you even bother to watch the magician demonstrating "invisible" string? No? You're just a blathering true believer who can't stand anything that may threaten your irrational beliefs?
Got it.
Nope...still no evidence for strings being used. Like Zin, you're just making shit up and hoping it sticks.
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Nov 25, 2021 09:19 PM
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(Nov 25, 2021 08:43 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: (Nov 25, 2021 08:11 PM)Syne Wrote: Did you even bother to watch the magician demonstrating "invisible" string? No? You're just a blathering true believer who can't stand anything that may threaten your irrational beliefs?
Got it.
Nope...still no evidence for strings being used. Like Zin, you're just making shit up and hoping it sticks.
See, ideologue true believers simply won't countenance anything that could run the risk of shaking their beliefs. They're too afraid because deep down inside they know how flimsy their beliefs are. But those beliefs are all they seem to have going for them, so they're bitter clingers, lashing out at anyone who contradicts them or tries to show them rational explanations.
"Invisible" string is a demonstrated fact (or do you also believe all magicians are performing actual magic, rather than just illusion). Ghosts are not. Keep trying to cope, MR.
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Nov 25, 2021 09:23 PM
Quote:"Invisible" string is a demonstrated fact
Not in this case. There is no evidence of any string being used at all. And claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
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Nov 25, 2021 09:33 PM
(Nov 25, 2021 09:23 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:"Invisible" string is a demonstrated fact
Not in this case. There is no evidence of any string being used at all. And claims made without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Ghosts are a claim without evidence. So the two claims being equal in direct evidence, in this particular case, Occam's razor says the one we can demonstrate is the most likely. My explanation relies solely on known things, while yours requires you to postulate something you cannot prove or demonstrate.
That makes you a crackpot, to put it nicely.
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