Gender-neutral restrooms...causing girls to...stay home when menstruating

[C C]

This decade or the last few years almost makes me wonder occasionally if I'm in An Occurrence at Owl Creek Bridge situation -- you know, like I'm moments from death but hallucinating a span of days, weeks, months or years during that last interval of brain activity.

That was a good little story, seen it a couple of times.

"Jacob's Ladder" (among other films) was partly influenced by it, and who knows how many single episodes of this or that show.

I think Syne is close when he said mental illness is being enabled. Maybe the mentally ill are in charge. Funny how you can call the POTUS a mental midget and get away with it but not so with anyone else.

As far as the old transgender territory goes, that required more than "just accept my word about what I am this week"... I don't consider consistency over the course of years in identifying with the opposite sex to be a psychological disorder. Even in this new or looming frontier of no physical, behavioral, and cross-dressing qualifications... I wouldn't attribute "disorder" (as a first explanation) to a child or teen who constantly changes their mind about their identity in that department. Since general irregularity, unreliability, unruliness, irrationality, confusion, and just doing things to deliberately irritate adults are more or less normal expectations in childhood.

[Zinjanthropos]

Do people change gender for biological, physiological or psychological reasons?

If it is so then what exactly is a biological reason? Help me understand how being born with the body of one sex biologically determines you're the opposite.

Physiological reasons..... are they things like mannerisms, voice, testosterone levels, looks etc....things that makes one appear to be of the opposite sex?

Psychological reasons..... have they to do with the mental and emotional state of the person?

Are there more reasons (like win playing sports or just being an asshole)?

Just so you know, my niece is now my nephew. I really don't care one way or the other. I don't think s/he did anything surgically but last time I saw him he had a beard (i think it was real) and girlfriend. Never in all the times I saw my niece prior to the change did I ever think she was a guy. There was nothing obvious to me, physically at least. This person is so smart that I truly feel greatness is in his destiny (works as micro biologist and other studies I can't even pronounce or spell).

[Magical Realist]

If it is so then what exactly is a biological reason? Help me understand how being born with the body of one sex biologically determines you're the opposite.

“The male and female brain have structural differences,” he says. Men and women tend to have different volumes in certain areas of the brain.

“When we look at the transgender brain, we see that the brain resembles the gender that the person identifies as,” Dr. Altinay says. For example, a person who is born with a penis but ends up identifying as a female often actually has some of the structural characteristics of a “female” brain.

And the brain similarities aren’t only structural.

“We’re also finding some functional similarities between the transgender brain and its identified gender,” Dr. Altinay says.

In studies that use MRIs to take images of the brain as people perform tasks, the brain activity of transgender people tends to look like that of the gender they identify with.

“Research in these areas is extremely limited, and more research needs to be done to find conclusive results,” Dr. Altinay notes. “But we’re already seeing definite trends.”

Though these differences in brain structure and function are important markers for gender determination, it isn’t always as simple as male or female.

Some research shows the brains of transgender people are somewhere in between, sharing characteristics of both male and female brains, Dr. Altinay says.

This is consistent with the growing understanding that gender exists on a spectrum, with people identifying not only as male or female but also as genderqueer, genderfluid or nonbinary. These terms refer to gender identities that incorporate a variety of gender characteristics."----
https://health.clevelandclinic.org/resea...ould-know/

[C C]

Do people change gender for biological, physiological or psychological reasons?

All of them can be factors, with the addition of cultural conditioning, etc. There is no single, absolute, universal reason responsible for all particular cases with regard to any set of human behaviors and inclinations common enough to garner a classification or descriptive label. For every troupe of people ritually diving into frigid water because they're members of a Polar Bear club, there's somebody somewhere/somewhen repeatedly doing it for [a] different reason(s).

[Zinjanthropos]

There is also brain structure differences between psychopaths, sociopaths and those who aren't. Not saying transgenders are crazy. If we are going to bring up brain structure then I think it important to discern whether something that occurs much less falls into the realm of normalcy, whatever that is. We seem to have a good idea what normal is but not sure if same can be said for abnormal. Right now I'd say rare or small percentages are regarded as abnormal by society even though it is normal for odd events to occur.

It's evolution in my way of thinking, behaving normally. Maybe we need to teach it a lot better.

[Magical Realist]

There is also brain structure differences between psychopaths, sociopaths and those who aren't. Not saying transgenders are crazy.

Sure you are. You're deliberately comparing transgender people to psychopaths. You've already called them mentally ill. What's your problem? What did they ever do to you?

[Zinjanthropos]

There is also brain structure differences between psychopaths, sociopaths and those who aren't. Not saying transgenders are crazy.

Sure you are. You're deliberately comparing transgender people to psychopaths. You've already called them mentally ill. What's your problem? What did they ever do to you?

Actually you said they were crazy by mentioning brain structure. You should do better research and quit making accusations because you didn’t check on other studies using the same criteria. I checked it for you and was surprised to find the same findings for psychos. A bad choice on your part to use brain structure.

And special thanks for demonstrating just how easy it is to accuse someone of being politically incorrect, inciting hate and then deliver heterophobic messages. Take a look in the mirror, you’re the worst, despicable.

We are done in this thread.

[Magical Realist]

Actually you said they were crazy by mentioning brain structure

That's an awful convenient definition of crazy you have there-- to have some sort of determinative brain structure. Are you aware of how much our daily lives and experiences are caused by brain structure? Quite abit in fact, and hardly any of it considerable as crazy. Falling in love, language, memory, habits, perceptions, pleasure, pain, concepts, all are products of our particular brain structure. So in your haste to condemn transgender people as crazy or psychopathic, maybe you should've researched the brain itself first to learn that none of us are operating here free of neurological determination. To be alive and conscious is to have a brain that is functioning in very specific and structured patterns.

[Syne]

The actual transitioning requires medical care and that usually requires some amount of mental evaluation before taking such irreversible steps. Not to mention the ongoing mental care when transitioning doesn't solve the person's problems, and often exacerbates them.

You're the one wrongly proclaiming it a mental illness. So now you're saying it shouldn't receive psychiatric treatment because it profits the psychiatric industry? That doesn't make sense. What? Transgender people don't have the right to therapy under your regime?

I can't even fathom how you created that straw man from what you quoted.

If it's a mental illness, that quite clearly warrants therapy. More productive therapy targeted to the actual problem, rather than endless placation targeted at symptoms the politically correct refuse to attribute to the real cause.

Again, I'm merely treating gender dysphoria on par with body integrity dysphoria, the latter of which most sane people readily recognize as a mental illness. Leftist agendas typically aren't sane though.

Beto basically wants to bankrupt churches who don’t believe in gay marriage
Pelosi’s Equality Act Could Lead to More Parents Losing Custody of Kids Who Want "Gender Transition"

Reactionary fearmongering from conservative rags. A far stretch from actually becoming law..

No, that's what Pelosi and Beto have actually said. But I'm sure it quells your cognitive dissonance to make that genetic fallacy.

[Magical Realist]

More productive therapy targeted to the actual problem,

I'm assuming you mean therapy provided by qualified psychiatrists. So what possible therapy are you recommending other than helping them live with their gender identity? What other therapy is there? Sending them to a Christian bootcamp to teach them how to be real men and women?

Again, I'm merely treating gender dysphoria on par with body integrity dysphoria, the latter of which most sane people readily recognize as a mental illness.

It's actually called body integrity identity disorder, which would qualify it as a mental illness. Gender dysphoria is not a disorder and hence is not a mental illness.