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Quantum Existence and Reflexivity

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Ostronomos Offline
At the ultimate level, reality and mind form a tight relationship and the two are able to influence each other. The observer creates reality. This is a Quantum link that gives rise to reflexivity. God would exist as an external Being that is part of Quantum existence. In such a world, perceptions of fear, evil, safety, sex, the Devil (but not God), generate reality reflexively.
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#2
Ostronomos Offline
The mind and the external are bounded under a greater medium.
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#3
Ostronomos Offline
From the CTMU various levels of consciousness emerge. The Mind=Reality principle is a comprehensive principle that says that mind and reality are equivalent and thus mind is also included in reality for no want of syntax. It would be accurate to say that the globally distributed laws of Physics generate an intelligent mind when the right conditions are met and the formulas within reality allow it to exist.
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#4
Yazata Offline
(Apr 3, 2018 02:15 PM)Ostronomos Wrote: At the ultimate level, reality and mind form a tight relationship and the two are able to influence each other.

If they are related and influence each other, then they must be two distinct things, right?

Quote:The observer creates reality.

Which seems to suggest that observers aren't part of reality, that they aren't real.

Quote:This is a Quantum link that gives rise to reflexivity.

I'm increasingly inclined to think that whenever the word 'quantum' appears in a sentence, what follows is most likely to be bullshit.

It's almost as bad as "scientists say..." which usually seems to signal the worst sort of speculation.

Quote:God would exist as an external Being that is part of Quantum existence.

That certainly seems to be a leap. Can you produce any argument that would make it plausible?

Besides, if God is "part of Quantum existence" then wouldn't Quantum existence (whatever that phrase means) be prior to and more fundamental than God?

Quote:In such a world, perceptions of fear, evil, safety, sex, the Devil (but not God), generate reality reflexively.

If our ideas and emotions shape objective physical reality as well as subjective phenomenal experience, why exclude the idea of God from that shaping? I think that ideas of God form a big part of many/most people's imagined worldviews.
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Ostronomos Offline
Quote:OstronomosAt the ultimate level, reality and mind form a tight relationship and the two are able to influence each other.

If they are related and influence each other, then they must be two distinct things, right?



No. They are not. Mind is part of the material realm but in a more sophisticated format.


Quote:Which seems to suggest that observers aren't part of reality, that they aren't real.


No, hat would be incorrect. Observers are reality too.

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Quote:This is a Quantum link that gives rise to reflexivity.

I'm increasingly inclined to think that whenever the word 'quantum' appears in a sentence, what follows is most likely to be bullshit.

It's almost as bad as "scientists say..." which usually seems to signal the worst sort of speculation.


It is not a speculation. Not everyone shares your bias.

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Quote:God would exist as an external Being that is part of Quantum existence.

That certainly seems to be a leap. Can you produce any argument that would make it plausible?

Besides, if God is "part of Quantum existence" then wouldn't Quantum existence (whatever that phrase means) be prior to and more fundamental than God?


I have not gathered enough knowledge about Quantum existence to be sure. However, I know that God has limitations. Whether or not fundamental nature of Quantum Mechanics implies that God loses his power to perform any possible action at will is still in question. However I do know that God signals His existence to make the observer aware.


Quote:In such a world, perceptions of fear, evil, safety, sex, the Devil (but not God), generate reality reflexively.

If our ideas and emotions shape objective physical reality as well as subjective phenomenal experience, why exclude the idea of God from that shaping? I think that ideas of God form a big part of many/most people's imagined worldviews

Because we cannot manipulate that aspect of the Quantum world.
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#6
Ostronomos Offline
Yazata,

I wanted to add that due to the Quantum Observer Effect, God's omnipotence is sacrificed by the individual observer. Careful analysis would reveal that God's mind and the individual observer's mind are congruent and so reflexivity may be defined as which of the emerging victor's minds gets control over reality. From the referential frame of the individual observer, God's mind is a light signal.
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#7
Ostronomos Offline
YOU ARE THE PRIME CHARACTER AND NATURE OF THE UNIVERSE. YOU ARE ULTIMATE REALITY.

THE UNIVERSE CLEARLY HAS A SYNTACTIC STRUCTURE AND A DESCRIPTION THAT IS ISOMORPHIC TO ITS IDENTIFICATION. THIS IDENTIFICATION IS ANOMOLOUS TO THINE ART. AS YOU.
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#8
Zinjanthropos Offline
Hey Ostro, still trying eh? I'll give you credit for that. From what I can figure, your mission is to prove to everyone God exists. How's that going? You're a good guy Ostro and an author of some pretty harmless trolling if I do say so myself.

No disrespect but thinking back to my cult busting days I'm quite sure I ran into guys similar to you who had a very peaceful approach, a lot on their minds & were busy selling flowers on a street corner. Hate to think of you sitting there with more astute revelations yet there's no one bending an ear. What's driving you, why do you do it? Might help us understand.
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#9
Ostronomos Offline
(Apr 24, 2018 04:19 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Hey Ostro, still trying eh? I'll give you credit for that. From what I can figure, your mission is to prove to everyone God exists. How's that going? You're a good guy Ostro and an author of some pretty harmless trolling if I do say so myself.

No disrespect but thinking back to my cult busting days I'm quite sure I ran into guys similar to you who had a very peaceful approach, a lot on their minds & were busy selling flowers on a street corner. Hate to think of you sitting there with more astute revelations yet there's no one bending an ear. What's driving you, why do you do it? Might help us understand.

I do it because I am 100% certain of God's existence and I am inquiring into it. However, I can't say the same for the afterlife as perception of the afterlife can manifest opposite perspectives depending on which of the two realms you're in -Quantum or Classical.
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