God only reveals His existence to a chosen few

[Syne]

Omniscience is knowing everything that can possibly be known. So if the future is only probabilities, that's all that can be known about it. Demanding omniscience include the unknowable is as preposterous as demanding that omnipotence include the logically impossible, like creating a square circle or moving the immovable.


The OP just contradicts itself. If "God only reveals His existence to a chosen few," it's definitionally not possible to make "believers out of the vast majority of the population." That would require the same revelation that is claimed only the "chosen few" get. Otherwise, you haven't "proven" anything to anyone, and they're just blindly following a cult....which is apropos Ostro.

[Zinjanthropos]

Omniscience is knowing everything that can possibly be known. So if the future is only probabilities, that's all that can be known about it. Demanding omniscience include the unknowable is as preposterous as demanding that omnipotence include the logically impossible, like creating a square circle or moving the immovable.


The OP just contradicts itself. If "God only reveals His existence to a chosen few," it's definitionally not possible to make "believers out of the vast majority of the population." That would require the same revelation that is claimed only the "chosen few" get. Otherwise, you haven't "proven" anything to anyone, and they're just blindly following a cult....which is apropos Ostro.

I don’t think anyone believes there’s something out there that knows the future but maybe omniscient proponents could asterisk that. Even God had no idea O would satisfy the chosen criteria a way back. However it gives God that other talent I don’t like….. he sees you when you’re sleeping etc. Should that fall the way of omniscience….how did God know the O qualified for chosen one without keeping tabs?

[Syne]

Like CC said, people who believe in eternalism (where the past and future are just as real as the present) would have to believe omniscience includes the future. Because if the future already exists, it's there to be known. The problem there is that it excludes any real free will, as what you may choose is already set in stone. So anyone who believes in omniscience and free will cannot believe in eternalism. The only future that can be known is the probabilities of choices based on omniscient knowledge of an individual's past patterns of behavior.

But even without that much knowledge, we could all predict Ostro would only become evermore delusional and grandiose.

[Zinjanthropos]

Like CC said, people who believe in eternalism (where the past and future are just as real as the present) would have to believe omniscience includes the future. Because if the future already exists, it's there to be known. The problem there is that it excludes any real free will, as what you may choose is already set in stone. So anyone who believes in omniscience and free will cannot believe in eternalism. The only future that can be known is the probabilities of choices based on omniscient knowledge of an individual's past patterns of behavior.

But even without that much knowledge, we could all predict Ostro would only become evermore delusional and grandiose.

Poor Ostro, born a couple millennium too late. He could have been Moses on the mountain receiving the Ten Commandments, he could have been the Oracle at Delphi relaying the gods’ thoughts, he could have talked to the burning bush….er…oh wait…that last one I think he does only with slight modification to the bush. A throwback to a time when it was a successful trait to talk to God. Now it’s only recognized for what it is. I think Langan has it too.

Let me return to the burning bush for a minute. I wonder about those polytheistic societies and if each one of these gods originated from someone having a god talk to them? A burning bush being the god of agriculture or something to do with farming, even fire for that matter. Schizophrenia was undiagnosed and probably considered a gift, like chosen by god, to speak to the deity personally.

[Ostronomos]

You guys think I'm delusional eh? LOL

In 2008 I crept around my mother's basement while high with the lights off like a ninja and because my performance in the pitch black darkness was so impressive that it scared away demonic forces God thought me a worthy candidate to appear before me by the crack of dawn when sun broke.

You fools know nothing about me. I am God's great genius. YOU are jealous that you will never have the same relationship with God as I have. So before you call people names I suggest you look in the mirror.

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I'm pissed.

[Syne]

...I crept around my mother's basement while high with the lights off like a ninja...

It's too funny when idiots don't have the sense to not tell on themselves.

[Zinjanthropos]

...I crept around my mother's basement while high with the lights off like a ninja...

It's too funny when idiots don't have the sense to not tell on themselves.

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