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Homeland Security footage of morphing ufo

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Magical Realist Offline
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/news/weird-ne...uerto-Rico

"They had not been informed of any incoming traffic, so radioed it in and were told the tower too had seen the object.

It was described as being between three and five feet with speeds ranging from 40mph to 120mph and disappeared in the ocean for approximately half a mile before resurfacing and splitting into two.

A spokesman for SCU said: “There is no explanation for an object of travelling under water at over 90mph with minimal impact as it enters the water, through the air at 120mph at low altitude through a residential area without navigational lights and finally to be capable of splitting into two separate objects.”
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#2
Zinjanthropos Offline
Geez MR, what a surprise! More grainy images! I think Randi should be offering a $1million for one good clear crisp photo of a UFO, just one. With all the photo devices and surveillance equipment available.....I mean how hard can it be? 

Is this the same Daily Star that placed a computer generated photo of a British airline's flight at the moment they lost all engine power, with accompanying headline reading "Terror as Plane Hits Ash Cloud"? 

People place their trust in many things. Unfortunately British Tabloid spam isn't one I would, but everyone is different.
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Quote:Geez MR, what a surprise! More grainy images! I think Randi should be offering a $1million for one good clear crisp photo of a UFO, just one. With all the photo devices and surveillance equipment available.....I mean how hard can it be?

Actually it's a very clear image of an object flying at high speed and submerging into the ocean. Anybody can see that, except you maybe...
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(Oct 25, 2016 07:53 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Yeah sure. Better get my eyes checked.udebunked.blogspot.ca/2015/08/homeland-security-ufo-video-analyzed.html

Too late. I already read over that. Here's the debunk of the bird theory in the bottom comments section:

"Your report dismisses many facts in the 161-page report.

The first:

"The DHC-8 took off on a routine flight and soon after takeoff they noticed “a pinkish to reddish light over the ocean that was in their vicinity and approaching toward the south.”

The crew was concerned the tower had not told them about the incoming traffic, so they called it in. The tower told them they also had a visual on the object, but they were unsure of its identity.

Once the object got close to land, its lights turned off, but at this time the DHC-8 was able to begin tracking and filming the object with their onboard thermal imaging system. The DHC-8 did not approach the object, but circled the area and filmed it."

No birds glow in the dark, and the crew did NOT fly away from it, but circled the area until the object was gone.

The Second:

"According to the source, a flight was delayed by the presence of the object. The research group was able to confirm from airport records that a FedEx flight scheduled to leave at 9:10 pm was delayed until 9:26 pm."

No, the airport did not delay a flight because of a bird.

The Third:

“The object was between three to five feet in length and its speed varied between approximately 40 mph to 120 mph. Its median speed was roughly 80 mph.”

It has already been confirmed by experts who use this technology on a daily basis how fast the object was moving and no bird can fly this fast.

The Fourth:

"In our current scientific understanding, when an object travels close to the surface of water, it leaves a wake trailing it. All friction must oppose motion and generate heat, right? This is not the case here. There is no splash and there is no wake. Even when using a military grade “stack” tool and the ImageJ Program, researchers analyzing each 0.01 frame were still unable to find any sign of heat transferring to the water. This craft was not creating friction, thus defying the laws of physics."

This statement is clearly seen in the video. The object does go under the water without slowing down and there does not appear to be any splash. Afterwards the object either splits into two, OR, another object comes out of the water to join it.

You could also go take a look at a couple of videos on youtube of birds flying in IR... looks nothing like this."
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Zinjanthropos Offline
Fact is there's disagreement amongst the experts regarding object and speed. Obviously some of them are incorrect. I choose natural causes. No visible wake means nothing was in the water or close enough to it or going fast enough. What it doesn't mean is that some intelligent alien civilization is flying objects in and out of water for reasons only they would understand. 

Think about it, taking into account everything that's physically known, an alien intelligence designs and builds a craft capable of flying through space only to get here to splash about in the water near Puerto Rico without fear of being spotted or recorded. The odds of that being more likely than a natural phenomenon has got to be astronomical.
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Quote:What it doesn't mean is that some intelligent alien civilization is flying objects in and out of water for reasons only they would understand.

Noone is defining the object to be anything more than what witnessed and filmed ufos always exhibit---fast speeds, morphing and splitting abilities, high energy emissions, evasive maneuvers, and a density unlike ordinary matter as we know it. It is that object seen thousands of times in different shapes and sizes over the past 70 years generally referred to as a ufo. The origin and pilots of said object, if in fact it isn't a robotic probe, remain a mystery. We only know THAT they are. WHAT they are remains speculative at best.
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(Oct 25, 2016 10:19 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:What it doesn't mean is that some intelligent alien civilization is flying objects in and out of water for reasons only they would understand.

Noone is defining the object to be anything more than what witnessed and filmed ufos always exhibit---fast speeds, morphing and splitting abilities, high energy emissions, evasive maneuvers, and a density unlike ordinary matter as we know it. It is that object seen thousands of times in different shapes and sizes over the past 70 years generally referred to as a ufo. The origin and pilots of said object, if in fact it isn't a robotic probe, remain a mystery. We only know THAT they are. WHAT they are remains speculative at best.

If you have robots then you have intelligence behind them as well. Again I would ask why robots and spaceships intelligently designed are splashing around in the water. I have no doubt that there are still unexplained phenomena and some of it could be in the skies.

Believe me, I would like nothing more in my lifetime than to see LGM in the flesh. Something like that would be absolutely the greatest thing that ever happened on Earth in my mind. However I don't think it would start with morphing, splitting, emissions, maneuvers, etc. Do you also subscribe to the theory of an highly intelligent race having already evolved on Earth well ahead of us?
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Quote:Do you also subscribe to the theory of an highly intelligent race having already evolved on Earth well ahead of usl

Yes..the evidence shows the presence of an advanced intelligence beyond our technological capabilities visiting us or maybe even living right here on earth with us. They could be beings on another earth plane, or maybe a species that lives under the sea. But that is what the evidence shows. I don't buy the thesis that they are extraterrestrial. They are far too humanoid in appearance and behavior. A real ET would be nothing like us. It would be hard for us to even understand such beings much less communicate with them.
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