True ghost tales

[Syne]

What's the mundane cause of shot glass flying off the bar and shattering against the wall?

I don't know. When's the last time someone had a legit forensic investigator go over such scenes? Ever?

When's the last time you had legit forensic investigators go over eyewitnesses to news events? Never? That's what I thought.

LOL. Eyewitnesses are not forensic evidence, so never. It is the scenes of what they claim to have witnessed that offer forensic evidence. Crime scenes in the news very much are subject to forensics. And any scene that someone may actually be interested in proving something about could offer forensic evidence to affirm or refute any assumptions.

So...any more half-baked arguments?

[Magical Realist]

What's the mundane cause of shot glass flying off the bar and shattering against the wall?

I don't know. When's the last time someone had a legit forensic investigator go over such scenes? Ever?

When's the last time you had legit forensic investigators go over eyewitnesses to news events? Never? That's what I thought.

LOL. Eyewitnesses are not forensic evidence, so never. It is the scenes of what they claim to have witnessed that offer forensic evidence. Crime scenes in the news very much are subject to forensics. And any scene that someone may actually be interested in proving something about could offer forensic evidence to affirm or refute any assumptions.

So...any more half-baked arguments?

So you have never required forensic investigators to go over eyewitness accounts of the news. Tks for confirming that. So much for forensic investigations.

[Syne]

So you have never required forensic investigators to go over eyewitness accounts of the news. Tks for confirming that. So much for forensic investigations.

LOL. Interviews are of course used to identify the scenes for forensic investigation, just like ghost witnesses could lead investigators to where those events occurred.

But nice to know you're so willing to write off all of forensic science...just so long as your precious beliefs are left intact.

[Magical Realist]

So you have never required forensic investigators to go over eyewitness accounts of the news. Tks for confirming that. So much for forensic investigations.

LOL. Interviews are of course used to identify the scenes for forensic investigation, just like ghost witnesses could lead investigators to where those events occurred.

But nice to know you're so willing to write off all of forensic science...just so long as your precious beliefs are left intact.

Noone uses forensic investigators to research what people say happened to them. Unless they are paranoid nutcases that don't believe anybody. Is that what you do?

[Zinjanthropos]

Do believers presume a ghost sighting represents life after death, the answer to one of the oldest questions in the book?

Yes..most ghost sightings represent persons that were alive and have died in a certain way. It's the nature of the phenomena.
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Could believers have an overpowering desire to know if there is an afterlife. I mean seeing proof?

From Wiki: Wish fulfillment is the satisfaction of a desire through an involuntary thought process. Wish fulfillment can occur in dreams or in daydreams, in the symptoms of neurosis, or in the hallucinations of psychosis. This satisfaction is often indirect and requires interpretation to recognize.
Sigmund Freud coined the term (wunscherfüllung) in 1900 in an early text titled The Interpretation of Dreams.

[Magical Realist]

Could believers have an overpowering desire to know if there is an afterlife. I mean seeing proof?

No..ghosts appear to people regardless of religious belief. Many appear to skeptics. There is no correlation to the desire to believe in a afterlife. As if that even proves it.

[Syne]

Noone uses forensic investigators to research what people say happened to them. Unless they are paranoid nutcases that don't believe anybody. Is that what you do?

I'm not the one wanting people to believe things only I've witnessed. If I were, I might be interested in proving it, if possible. But I'm not going to pay for an investigation I don't find credible in the first place.

All you keep saying is basically, "prove me wrong"...the mating call of cranks and nutters.

[Zinjanthropos]

Could believers have an overpowering desire to know if there is an afterlife. I mean seeing proof?

No..ghosts appear to people regardless of religious belief. Many appear to skeptics. There is no correlation to the desire to believe in a afterlife. As if that even proves it.

I said nothing of religion. My point is that for every person booked into a psyche ward suffering from some form of psychosis there are perhaps tenfold walking around undiagnosed, including ourselves. Do you believe that the mind can play tricks on you?

[Magical Realist]

I'm not the one wanting people to believe things only I've witnessed.

I don't care what you believe panentheist. I'm just posting accounts of people's own experiences. If that upsets you go to another thread.

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I said nothing of religion. My point is that for every person booked into a psyche ward suffering from some form of psychosis there are perhaps tenfold walking around undiagnosed, including ourselves. Do you believe that the mind can play tricks on you?

I find it difficult to believe that cops, security guards, working mothers, and bar workers are mentally ill if they are still holding a job. And ofcourse you weren't there and they were. So who are we goin to believe? You? I think not.

[Zinjanthropos]

One more time: Do you believe the mind can play tricks on you?