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"I work security for a government building that isn’t even abandoned. One day, I’m staring at the security camera screen and this clock on the wall that the camera is facing starts spinning like crazy. Suddenly, it lifts off the hook on the wall and goes flying across the room into the wall. I ran into the stairwell where the camera was filming and there was no one there. I showed all my co-workers and we were all freaked out. There was no rational explanation for it."

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There is this abandoned mental hospital in my town called Prudhoe hospital.

My mom worked at an auxiliary nurse there for years and she said at night, the crippled kids who couldn’t move due to severe diseases and birth defects would somehow get out of their cribs and into the middle of the floor on the wards. Whatever was [enabling] this would also go around and remove blankets from all the patients and again pile them in the center of the room.

Eventually security was hired, believing it was someone getting into the hospital at night and doing all these things to scare people or to just be trouble.

However, even with security, they never found out who was doing these things at night.


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“A few years back, prior to sworn LEO, I worked as a security guard at a hospital. Sounds cool, and it was, except for the fact it was 9pm to 7am, I worked alone, and the hospital I guarded was abandoned.

I was always a 3rd shift kind of person. I don’t get night ‘jitters’ or scare easily. But this place could do it to the best of ‘em. Every night I would walk (or ride a wheelchair) through the halls that were supposed to be empty/unused. Every night I would end up having to close doors and re-lock them. I would walk one floor, move up to the next, and continue on.

I got a little shaky when an hour after already walking a hallway, I would have to turn off the same hall lights and close the same doors AGAIN in the building. Or when I would be walking a hall and then I would hear footsteps on the floor above me, doors opening and closing, elevators moving from floor to floor, phones ringing, nurse call lights going on, etc.

There were only three times I got the “I hate this s#&%” feeling. First time I was checking offices on the 4th floor. There was a light on in a locked hallway (no surprise). This hallway hadn’t been renovated since the place was built, short of electricity, so everything was from the 1920’s. Unlock the door, flip the lights, walk out, re-lock the door, and turn to leave. Behind me I hear the “flip” of a light switch. Through the frosted glass I see the lights went back on. I left the hallway alone that night.

Second time was riding an elevator between floors. I was taking the elevator to the top floor, when at about #4 of #5 floors, I hear laughing and muffled talking. It kept getting louder as I got higher. Elevator makes it to #5, doors swing open, and absolute silence. Of course, every light on the floor was on, even in the patient rooms. I checked high and low, not a single living and breathing person in that place except for me.

Third, and worst of all, was just an average night. I’m on the lower level locking a door in a corridor. The door had a glass middle but on the backside it was covered by white tape. The room it led to it was dark and the hallway a few feet behind me was partially lit, so the glass acted like a perfect mirror. Everything normal, key in, lock clicks, turning the key… When behind me I see the full outline of a person walk past me in the hallway. Clear as day, just a full shadow of a person walk past. I froze only for about a second, and then ran into the hall after the supposed ‘person’. No one, just silence.”----http://ghostsnghouls.com/2011/09/18/cops...t-stories/

Indian burial ground and a haunted subdivision...


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jaLwoMK9rNQ

The energy of place...the druids and many other cultures took note that some places have a 'feeling' about them, either negative or positive, and this has historically been attributed to events that have transpired at these locations.

There was an abandoned mine site in northern B.C. and years ago, my family held the trapping rights to this location and we spent a couple of days in an old cabin at the actual mine itself. Though postcard perfect, there was an ambiance about the place that made one edgy and history records that there was considerable avarice and discord in the the events that transpired there.

Years later, another individual undertook to trap the lease on our behalf. A more cynical and fact oriented person would be hard to come by so it was rather interesting that after a few solo trips, this man decided that he would not spend any more over night stays at the mine. The reason? He could not exactly state his case except to say that he did not sleep well there and found it a depressing venue.

We had not shared our experiences with him and this was a rugged northern wilderness guide and outfitter, well used to staying alone, in fact preferring it so, therefore surprising that he had such an adverse reaction to such a beautiful location.

Funny how even the one that said it was on security camera doesn't even offer any video evidence.

(Oct 6, 2016 08:55 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Funny how even the one that said it was on security camera doesn't even offer any video evidence.

It will be interesting when we have technology that can measure our response to various places and situations that is refined enough to track down precisely what stimuli are at play and how and why we are reacting in such manner.

In cases where we have some shared information of a place, we may be anticipating certain situations or outcomes. If we have no knowledge of a place and yet still perceive it to be eerie (or even 'haunted' ), why are we responding with apprehension rather than curiosity?

Is it simply transposed past experience which shapes our information bias?

How does emotion short circuit our inductive and deductive reasoning processes?

Yeah, I think even without prior knowledge, just being with other people who do can be felt, since humans are such social animals. And I think there's probably an evolutionary reason why we call some things "eerie", or sense them to be. Throughout history, abandoned places were probably more likely to be due to a tragedy of some sort. At least before urban sprawl really took off. Like the color red still having the psychological effect of heightening attention, probably because the sight of blood was a major danger cue.

I tend to think that what we experience is largely a matter of what we bring with us. Call it lizard-brain, instinct, or just superstition. I think it's mostly just danger cues we no longer consciously realize as such.

(Oct 6, 2016 10:43 PM)Syne Wrote: [ -> ]Yeah, I think even without prior knowledge, just being with other people who do can be felt, since humans are such social animals. And I think there's probably an evolutionary reason why we call some things "eerie", or sense them to be. Throughout history, abandoned places were probably more likely to be due to a tragedy of some sort. At least before urban sprawl really took off. Like the color red still having the psychological effect of heightening attention, probably because the sight of blood was a major danger cue.

I tend to think that what we experience is largely a matter of what we bring with us. Call it lizard-brain, instinct, or just superstition. I think it's mostly just danger cues we no longer consciously realize as such.

Heightened awareness. Most species are aware. We are aware of being aware which adds another layer of complexity and margin of error.

Science has demonstrated that we know what we are going to do before we actually do it, a measurement of the delay between thought and action. This minute interval allows for an incredible range of sensory input which might well be the source of so much of what we actually experience yet cannot provide concrete evidence of, at least not yet.

The things that we experience in our brain do indeed happen, at least to the individual, even if we cannot replicate the experience consistently across a broader audience.

Amazing when you contemplate that there are more than seven billion and counting virtual experiences of reality happening simultaneously on this planet.

Except for change and gravity, there are few other things that I would bet my paycheck on.

Apprehension... "anxiety or fear that something bad or unpleasant will happen." Maybe the idea of ghosts and spirits is not only the product of human imagination, but also that of survival instincts. There's a reason why being alone in the dark can be scary.

The Cell Phone

"A couple of months ago, my friend’s cousin (a single mother) bought a new cell phone. After a long day of work, she came home, placed her phone on the counter, and went watch to TV; her son came to her and asked if he could play with her new phone. She told him not to call anyone or mess with text messages, and he agreed.

At around 11:20, she was drowsy, so she decided to tuck her son in and go to bed. She walked to his room and saw that he wasn’t there. She then ran over to her room to find him sleeping on her bed with the phone in his hand.

Relieved, she picked her phone back up from his hand to inspect it. Browsing through it, she noticed only minor changes such as a new background, banner, etc., but then she opened up her saved pictures. She began deleting the pictures he had taken, until only one new picture remained.

When she first saw it, she was in disbelief. It was her son sleeping on her bed, but the picture was taken by someone else above him... and it showed the left half of an elderly woman’s face."--
-http://www.huffingtonpost.com/Mandatory/ghost-stories_b_8296528.html

(Oct 7, 2016 03:23 AM)scheherazade Wrote: [ -> ]Science has demonstrated that we know what we are going to do before we actually do it, a measurement of the delay between thought and action. This minute interval allows for an incredible range of sensory input which might well be the source of so much of what we actually experience yet cannot provide concrete evidence of, at least not yet.

Actually, our experience is likely formed by the mind from a dearth of input. Up To 90% Of Your Perception Could Be Made Up Purely By The Brain

And if you're referring to studies like Brain makes decisions before you even know it, then you may have misinterpreted the results. These studies only test for random choices, which naturally consult subconscious and environmental cues. They have not replicated these studies for non-random choices.