UN delegates walk out on Netanyahoo's speech

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Syne Offline
(Today 02:15 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Ah, getting cucked with Tuck now, huh?
Tucker Carlson is an open antisemite and regularly has them on his show.

Keep going. In no time you'll be a good little "far-right" antisemite.

Genetic fallacy. As if calling the source "antisemitic" excuses you from having to taking its points seriously.

A source (guests and host) that repeats age-old antisemitic tropes is obviously antisemitic.
If you want to provide "facts," go ahead.
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#22
Magical Realist Online
Quote:A source (guests and host) that repeats age-old antisemitic tropes is obviously antisemitic.

There's nothing antisemitic in defining genocide by the mass murder of children. Which is exactly what Netanyahoo and his IDF have been doing in Gaza for around 3 years now.

"More than 20,000 children have been reported killed in Gaza since the conflict began in October 2023, according to reports from the United Nations and humanitarian organizations like UNICEF USA.

Casualities and Impact

Total Deaths: A UN commission report stated that at least 20,179 children were killed as a direct result of hostilities through late 2025, with totals continuing to rise toward or exceed 21,600 according to subsequent health dashboard data. Thousands more are missing or feared buried under rubble.

Injuries: More than 44,000 children have been reported injured, leaving many with permanent disabilities."
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#23
Syne Offline
It's a propaganda war, where even if that many children have dies, it's because Hamas wanted them to (continuing to compound their war crimes), not because they were targeted. It's literally just the latest take in the blood libel from the Middle Ages.

Hateful people are so eager to ingest more hate to fuel their own.

Remember, the UN is the source of the UNHRC, which is openly anti-Israel.
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#24
Magical Realist Online
Quote:It's a propaganda war, where even if that many children have dies, it's because Hamas wanted them to

Do you have any evidence of that whatsoever besides just pulling it out your ass? Why would Palestinians want their own children dead? Do you believe they are inhuman monsters needing only to be slaughtered?

Quote:Remember, the UN is the source of the UNHRC, which is openly anti-Israel.

No..they're against human rights violations period of which Israel is guilty of many.

"Mandate of the Council: Proponents and UN officials emphasize that the UNHRC's mandate is to address human rights violations globally, and that scrutiny of Israel's policies in the occupied territories falls within legitimate criticisms of state actions under international humanitarian law.

Administrative Distinction: Representatives of the UNHRC maintain that resolutions and reports reflect the collective intergovernmental votes and consensus of its member states—which are elected by the UN General Assembly—rather than an institutional animus against any specific faith or ethnic group."
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Syne Offline
(Today 03:56 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:It's a propaganda war, where even if that many children have dies, it's because Hamas wanted them to

Do you have any evidence of that whatsoever besides just pulling it out your ass? Why would Palestinians want their own children dead? Do you believe they are inhuman monsters needing only to be slaughtered?
Why would Gazans willingly live in housing and use schools and hospitals used by Hamas, knowing they are military targets?
Why would Gazans refuse to evacuate from announced military targets?
Why do Gazan men have to be separated from Gazan women and children at aid distribution sites, so women and children have a chance to get food?
Where are the Gazan men who should be protecting and providing for those women and children?
Why would Gazans allow Hamas to teach their toddlers to be terrorists?
Why did Gazans elect Hamas into power?
Why were there Gazan civilians among the terrorists on Oct 7th, filming, cheering, and participating in the attack?
Why did some Gazan civilians keep Israeli hostages in their homes?
Why do Muslim terrorists have suicide bombers, and if death ensures their eternal reward, why wouldn't they enlist children to die for the cause?
Why have Muslims always made the same accusations against Israel, ever since it's founding in 1948?
Why wouldn't they want any evidence that seemed to support their claims since 1948?

At some point, you have to learn to recognize obvious patterns.

Statements by Hamas Leaders

Ghazi Hamad, a high-ranking Hamas official, stated in a television interview that they are "proud to sacrifice martyrs," using the term to refer to Palestinian civilians and children.

Yahya Sinwar, a top Hamas leader in Gaza, described the use of civilian protesters at borders as turning the bodies of women and children into an "offering" to gain international attention and push their political agenda.
Analyses published in The Hill note that Hamas counts on civilian deaths to influence global public opinion against military force.

Military Tactics and Human Shields

Human Shields: International monitors, human rights groups, and the United Nations state that Hamas places military assets, rocket launchers, and tunnel entrances inside crowded civilian areas, schools, and hospitals.

Placing Minors at Risk: Reports indicate that Hamas has encouraged civilians to ignore military warnings and remain in active combat zones, effectively using population density to shield its fighters.

Child Rights Violations: The United Nations added Hamas to its annual list of offenders for grave violations against children's rights due to the scale of casualties and the impact of the conflict on minors in Gaza.

Humanitarians Should Want Hamas’s Human-Sacrifice Strategy to Fail
Human sacrifice is central to Hamas’s strategy
Hamas Sacrifices Gaza Children, and UNRWA Complicit in Crimes
Hamas Encourages Martyrdom Among Its Youth — Yet Israel Is Presented as the Problem
Palestinian Exploitation of Children as Weapons of War

Palestinian children, too, are exploited as weapons of war: Pictures abound of Palestinian babies dressed as suicide bombers and brandishing arms. Children's TV programs, many sponsored by the Palestinian Authority itself, preach jihad, advocate genocide against Jews and infidels, and glorify martyrdom. A young girl on a program recently aired on Hamas TV was encouraged by the host to be in the police when she grew up so that she could "shoot Jews … all of them."
- https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-181056/


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Quote:Remember, the UN is the source of the UNHRC, which is openly anti-Israel.

No..they're against human rights violations period of which Israel is guilty of many.

"Mandate of the Council: Proponents and UN officials emphasize that the UNHRC's mandate is to address human rights violations globally, and that scrutiny of Israel's policies in the occupied territories falls within legitimate criticisms of state actions under international humanitarian law.

Administrative Distinction: Representatives of the UNHRC maintain that resolutions and reports reflect the collective intergovernmental votes and consensus of its member states—which are elected by the UN General Assembly—rather than an institutional animus against any specific faith or ethnic group."
No, the UNHRC has Agenda item 7, which is a permanent standing agenda item solely dedicated to Israel. In a world with many more and worse human rights violations, they have no such agenda singling out any other country in the entire world. That is openly anti-Israel.

Believing their own claims about their goodness, just like you believe Hamas' claims about civilian casualties or Israeli targeting. Like the sweet summer child you are.
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#26
Magical Realist Online
Quote:Why would Gazans willingly live in housing and use schools and hospitals used by Hamas, knowing they are military targets?

Because Israel is bombing everything. Nobody knows what they are going to bomb next.

Quote:Why would Gazans refuse to evacuate from announced military targets?

How do you know they're announced?

Quote:Why do Gazan men have to be separated from Gazan women and children at aid distribution sites, so women and children have a chance to get food?

Starving people compete for food. It doesn't make them evil beings needing to be bombed.

Quote:Where are the Gazan men who should be protecting and providing for those women and children?

Who says they're not?

Quote:Why would Gazans allow Hamas to teach their toddlers to be terrorists?

Made up bullshit.

Quote:Why did Gazans elect Hamas into power?

Because their the only ones able to defend them from genocide?

Quote:Why were there Gazan civilians among the terrorists on Oct 7th, filming, cheering, and participating in the attack?

Proof?

Quote:Why did some Gazan civilians keep Israeli hostages in their homes?

Because Hamas made them probably. You know, the guys with the guns.

Quote:Why do Muslim terrorists have suicide bombers, and if death ensures their eternal reward, why wouldn't they enlist children to die for the cause?

Because its a sin in Islam to murder children probably.

Quote:Why have Muslims always made the same accusations against Israel, ever since it's founding in 1948?

Probably because they believe they're true. Does that merit bombing them?

Quote:Why wouldn't they want any evidence that seemed to support their claims since 1948?

Evidence for what claims?

Quote:Ghazi Hamad, a high-ranking Hamas official, stated in a television interview that they are "proud to sacrifice martyrs," using the term to refer to Palestinian civilians and children.

It's morally wrong to use children as martyrs in Islam.

Quote:Pictures abound of Palestinian babies dressed as suicide bombers and brandishing arms.

LOL I don't think IDF needs to worry about baby terrorists.

Quote:Children's TV programs, many sponsored by the Palestinian Authority itself, preach jihad, advocate genocide against Jews and infidels, and glorify martyrdom. A young girl on a program recently aired on Hamas TV was encouraged by the host to be in the police when she grew up so that she could "shoot Jews … all of them."

When Israel has a long history of committing genocide and ethnic cleansing on your people it's not surprising you'd want to fight back. It's only human. I know I would. Wouldn't you?

Quote:No, the UNHRC has Agenda item 7, which is a permanent standing agenda item solely dedicated to Israel. In a world with many more and worse human rights violations, they have no such agenda singling out any other country in the entire world. That is openly anti-Israel.

No it isn't. It's anti-human rights violations committed by Israel, as listed below:


"International bodies, human rights organizations, and the United Nations have accused Israel of committing serious human rights violations, war crimes, and acts of genocide in the Gaza Strip.According to reports from the United Nations Human Rights Office (OHCHR), Amnesty International, and Human Rights Watch, key findings regarding violations in Gaza include:

Genocide and Atrocity Crimes: UN independent commissions of inquiry and international organizations reported that Israeli military operations have involved the mass killing and targeted harm of civilians, including tens of thousands of children, constituting acts of genocide and crimes against humanity.

Starvation as a Weapon of War: Human Rights Watch and Oxfam documented that Israeli authorities deliberately restricted humanitarian aid, water, electricity, and fuel, imposing mass starvation and conditions leading to near-famine across the Gaza population.

Mass Displacement: Military campaigns and repeated, poorly communicated evacuation orders have displaced approximately 90% of Gaza's population (roughly 1.9 million people) without ensuring safe passage or adequate shelter.

Destruction of Infrastructure: Investigations by the UN Human Rights Council noted that extensive military bombardments have damaged or destroyed roughly 90% of civilian infrastructure, including homes, hospitals, schools, and historical or religious sites.

Handling of Remains and Evidence: UN human rights officials raised concerns over military operations removing massive amounts of rubble and human remains from sites before independent forensic or war crime investigations could document them."
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#27
Syne Offline
(Today 05:43 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Why would Gazans willingly live in housing and use schools and hospitals used by Hamas, knowing they are military targets?

Because Israel is bombing everything. Nobody knows what they are going to bomb next.
Liar. Israel gives civilians notice to evacuate military targets. They even have non-destructive bombs made to warn civilians:

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) have used a practice known as "roof knocking", which involves dropping a low-yield or non-explosive device on a roof to warn civilians before a strike.


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Quote:Why would Gazans refuse to evacuate from announced military targets?

How do you know they're announced?

The building watchman spoke on his mobile intently, pacing up and down a quiet street in Gaza. In video footage caught by an onlooker, Jamal Nasman showed no panic. Yet what he was hearing was deadly serious.
He later told Reuters an Israeli officer had been giving him advance warning that the 13-storey block he looked after would be the target of an air strike. Israel said Hamas militants used the building.
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Yet the mobile exchange that preceded the strike on the Rimal block has become a more common feature of conflict since the 2014 escalation in Gaza: Israel's army makes a call, tells residents to evacuate, tap-tap-tap go the small missiles as a final warning - and then a big one brings the building down.
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"Roof-knock munitions have also been used as part of our warnings on residents to get out in advance," he said. Operations by Hamas turn the buildings into legitimate targets, he said.
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- https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...021-05-14/

So you're not even aware of what goes on, huh? @_@

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Quote:Why do Gazan men have to be separated from Gazan women and children at aid distribution sites, so women and children have a chance to get food?

Starving people compete for food. It doesn't make them evil beings needing to be bombed.
Good men protect their women and children, even at their own expense. Maybe you really don't know what a good man looks like.

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Quote:Where are the Gazan men who should be protecting and providing for those women and children?

Who says they're not?
The UN:

Gaza women are ‘last line of protection’ for their families amid attacks, hunger and harsh winter
Ms. Calltorp said that more than 57,000 women in Gaza now head their households and are left alone to struggle in supremely harsh conditions.
- https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/11/1166445

Women living in Gaza have unique and urgent needs and vulnerabilities, both relating to the current conflict and due to structural gender discrimination, including laws in Palestine which assume women to be under the protection and guardianship of men. The escalation created protection crisis for all people in Gaza, elevated protection needs especially for single women, women heads of households, adolescent girls, women with disabilities, older women.
- https://palestine.unwomen.org/en/what-we...-palestine



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Quote:Why would Gazans allow Hamas to teach their toddlers to be terrorists?

Made up bullshit.
If small children were performing "plays" like this in the US, the left would be losing their minds:
Horrifying Hamas elementary school play where Palestinian children in Gaza are playing terrorists. From infancy, the children of Gaza are taught violence and are encouraged to participate in terrorism.

Tomorrow's Pioneers[a] is a Palestinian children's television show that was broadcast by the Hamas-run television station Al-Aqsa TV from April 2007 until October 2009, and broadcast online until 22 July 2022. ...Presented in a children's educational format similar to shows like Sesame Street and Barney & Friends, Tomorrow's Pioneers taught Islamic morals and values, periodically quoting the Quran. The characters performed skits and discussed life in Palestine in a talk show fashion with call-ins from young children.
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In 2007, Tomorrow's Pioneers gained attention from Disney, which later requested that the first co-host, Farfour, be written out of the show due to his strong resemblance to Mickey Mouse.[2] Farfour was killed in what the show referred to as a martyrdom.
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The Palestinian nationalist organisation Hamas considers media a "decisive weapon"[3] that effectively spreads information in support of the organisation and its ideologies via newspapers, leaflets, websites, television, radio, affiliated mosques, vocal groups and trading cards.[4][5] According to Thomas David Parker, Hamas focuses especially on children, with the organisation referring to the practice as "training the Muslim generation" or "Islamisation from below". The organisation hosts youth summer camps that focus on religion, politics, developing computer skills, and, occasionally, using firearms.
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomorrow%27s_Pioneers

So more you seem completely unaware of. Odd that you seem so certain in your ignorance.

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Quote:Why did Gazans elect Hamas into power?

Because their the only ones able to defend them from genocide?

According to Rashid Khalidi, the result of the vote was largely a repudiation of Fatah and not an endorsement of "Islamist governance or heightened armed resistance to Israel." Khalidi cites Hamas winning majority Christian areas as evidence that many voters' motivation was "to throw out the Fatah incumbents, whose strategy had failed and who were seen as corrupt and unresponsive to popular demands."
- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Pales...n#Analysis

Again, Muslims have been making claims of genocide against Israel since it was founding, in 1948.

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Quote:Why were there Gazan civilians among the terrorists on Oct 7th, filming, cheering, and participating in the attack?

Proof?
More you're completely unaware of? @_@
Again, from the UN:

The Commission further noted that in relation to the attack of 7 October in Israel, members of the military wings of Hamas and other Palestinian armed groups, as well as Palestinian civilians who were directly participating in the hostilities, deliberately killed, injured, mistreated, took hostages and committed sexual and gender-based violence against civilians, including Israeli citizens and foreign nationals.
...
“These actions constitute war crimes and violations and abuses of international humanitarian law and international human rights law,” it said.
- https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/06/1150946

Are you willfully ignorant of all these readily available facts? @_@
Did you just make up your mind early on and haven't bothered to look since?

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Quote:Why did some Gazan civilians keep Israeli hostages in their homes?

Because Hamas made them probably. You know, the guys with the guns.
"Probably"? So more ignorance.

The Aljamal family was widely respected in Gaza’s Nuseirat camp. They were known as pious and prominent members of the community. While people knew they had connections to Hamas, neighbors say no one could have guessed how deep those links truly went.

When Israeli forces stormed the Aljamals’ building on June 8 they found Almog Meir Jan, Andrey Kozlov and Shlomi Ziv, hostages who had been captured from the Nova music festival on October 7, cowering in a darkened room.

The experience of the three men – alongside that of Noa Argamani who was held in another house nearby, belonging to the Abu Nar family – echoes testimony from previously released hostages. They describe being confined among the civilian population, rather than in Hamas’ vast tunnel network under Gaza.
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In the aftermath of last month’s rescue, neighbors in Nuseirat, a refugee camp in central Gaza, told CNN they were shocked to learn that Ahmed Aljamal, a physician, and his family had kept hostages in their midst.

“Had we known, had he told us, we would have taken safety precautions, hide or move to somewhere else,” one neighbor, Abu Muhammad El Tahrawi, said.
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Neighbors told CNN it was no secret that the family had links to Hamas. “We were worried about the Aljamal house. They are with Hamas,” said a neighbor and family acquaintance.
...
- https://www.cnn.com/2024/07/19/middleeas...s-intl-cmd

No need to threaten Hamas loyalists.

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Quote:Why do Muslim terrorists have suicide bombers, and if death ensures their eternal reward, why wouldn't they enlist children to die for the cause?

Because its a sin in Islam to murder children probably.
"Probably"? More ignorance.
Again:
(Today 05:07 AM)Syne Wrote: Humanitarians Should Want Hamas’s Human-Sacrifice Strategy to Fail
Human sacrifice is central to Hamas’s strategy
Hamas Sacrifices Gaza Children, and UNRWA Complicit in Crimes
Hamas Encourages Martyrdom Among Its Youth — Yet Israel Is Presented as the Problem
Palestinian Exploitation of Children as Weapons of War

Palestinian children, too, are exploited as weapons of war: Pictures abound of Palestinian babies dressed as suicide bombers and brandishing arms. Children's TV programs, many sponsored by the Palestinian Authority itself, preach jihad, advocate genocide against Jews and infidels, and glorify martyrdom. A young girl on a program recently aired on Hamas TV was encouraged by the host to be in the police when she grew up so that she could "shoot Jews … all of them."
- https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-181056/


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Quote:Why have Muslims always made the same accusations against Israel, ever since it's founding in 1948?

Probably because they believe they're true. Does that merit bombing them?
"Probably"? More ignorance.
So you really think Israel has been trying to attempt genocide since the very first year it was founded, in 1948? @_@
They didn't just want a home they could be safe in, they wanted to destroy all these Muslims from the very beginning? What, immediately copy Hitler?
Or is it slightly more reasonable to assume the Arabs/Muslims, who have repeatedly attacked Israel, unprovoked, since it's founding and openly proclaimed their desire to kill all Jews, are projecting their own intent or trying to debase their enemy?

I know, it's asking a lot of you to use that bag-o-cats you call a brain.

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Quote:Why wouldn't they want any evidence that seemed to support their claims since 1948?

Evidence for what claims?
Civilian deaths to support their baseless claims of genocide since 1948.
Try to keep up.

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Quote:Ghazi Hamad, a high-ranking Hamas official, stated in a television interview that they are "proud to sacrifice martyrs," using the term to refer to Palestinian civilians and children.

It's morally wrong to use children as martyrs in Islam.
We're talking about Hamas, not Islam in general.
Try to keep up.

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Quote:Pictures abound of Palestinian babies dressed as suicide bombers and brandishing arms.

LOL I don't think IDF needs to worry about baby terrorists.
So you went from denying that Hamas trains children to be terrorists to claiming it's not a problem?
What's wrong with you?

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Quote:Children's TV programs, many sponsored by the Palestinian Authority itself, preach jihad, advocate genocide against Jews and infidels, and glorify martyrdom. A young girl on a program recently aired on Hamas TV was encouraged by the host to be in the police when she grew up so that she could "shoot Jews … all of them."

When Israel has a long history of committing genocide and ethnic cleansing on your people it's not surprising you'd want to fight back. It's only human. I know I would. Wouldn't you?
Lies to justify terrorism. You tell a big enough lie long enough... and orchestrate the deaths of your own civilians, though your war crimes.... and idiots believe it... especially when they're completely ignorant of most the facts.

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Quote:No, the UNHRC has Agenda item 7, which is a permanent standing agenda item solely dedicated to Israel. In a world with many more and worse human rights violations, they have no such agenda singling out any other country in the entire world. That is openly anti-Israel.

No it isn't. It's anti-human rights violations committed by Israel,
No, Israel is not the worst human right violator in the world... to the exclusion of having such focus on ANY other violators.
Arabs and Muslims hold political office in the democracy of Israel. Jews would be killed in many non-democratic Arab/Muslim neighboring countries.
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Syne Offline
Speaking of how women and children are faring in Gaza:

Reports of violence against women in Gaza surge, UN agency finds]
There has been a sharp rise in reports of violence against women and girls in the Gaza Strip, including early and forced marriage, according to a series of recent reports from the UN Population Fund (UNFPA).

It also warns that there has been a "severe escalation" in the number of early and forced marriage incidents in the second quarter of this year. Both are considered types of gender-based violence (GBV) by the UN.
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One woman in a Gaza City camp interviewed for the report says she attended the wedding of two girls from her family, aged just 14 and 15.

"Their uncles married them off very young. Do you know why? Because their father and mother were martyred, and their uncles wanted to get rid of the responsibility and expenses," the woman said. "By God, they don't understand what marriage or life is."
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"We see adolescent pregnancies going through the roof because of child marriage," says Owomuhangi.
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The UN and most humanitarian organisations categorise marriages of girls under 18 as early marriage. Even before the war, this was more common among Palestinians in Hamas-run Gaza than it was in the occupied West Bank, but it was declining.

The law in Gaza allows exceptions to the minimum marital age of 17 with parental consent and authorisation by a judge. Court officials can approve marriage for those as young as 14 years and seven months old, although a local Sharia expert told us that "legal safeguards" had been removed when Islamic courts - which officiate over family matters for Muslims - were closed for a large part of the war.
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Sexual violence in Gaza remains acutely under-reported in large part due to fear of stigma and retaliation. UN safety audits have shown particular risks to women and girls at night, causing them to avoid camp toilets and bathrooms.

The latest analysis report by the UNFPA-led task force stated that incidents of sexual violence, including rape and sexual assault, "have become critical in Gaza". They accounted for 2.7% of total reported incidents of GBV from April to June 2026 - up from 2.1% in the quarter before; this represented a 61% surge in absolute case numbers.
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- https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c94gm7dp40y0o


This is from those Gazan men, who MR assumes are protecting the women and children. 9_9
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#29
Magical Realist Online
You're such a pathetic nutcase. It's not even a matter if the things you are claiming are true. Nobody's justifying the wrongdoings of Hamas. It's why any human on earth would devote so much time and effort cherry-picking excuses to hate and dehumanize a whole ethnicity to justify their past and future elimination from this planet. This is standard fare for the genocidal mindset--reduce your victims to the less than human, to the disgusting, to the vermin-like, so killing them will feel right and justified. The Nazis did it with the Jews themselves. White racists do it with Hispanic immigrants. And you do it with Gazans, scapegoating them like they have no right to live in peace in their own land. This is why you and your ilk are losing the PR battle for Nethanyahoo on the world stage. The black bile of your contempt stains your whole rhetoric and your kneejerk labeling of anyone antisemitic who points that out. Nobody is buying your koolaide anymore. And the UN response to Netanyahoo's speech gloriously proves it.
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