Speech in the Age of Trump..

[Magical Realist]

No, "progressive," as the name implies, has an ever changing meaning. It's not a stable social/political platform.

Yes it does. It has a very specific and modern platform that most MAGA are simply totally ignorant of:

Modern progressivism

"Today, progressivism is a left-leaning political philosophy that advocates for an active government role in addressing a wide range of social and economic issues. Modern progressives support a more robust social safety net and regulatory framework than most political liberals or moderates.

Key tenets of modern progressivism:

Healthcare: Advocates for universal healthcare, such as a "Medicare for All" system.

Economic policy: Supports measures to address wealth inequality, such as progressive taxation, a living wage, stronger labor protections, and a robust package of social services.

Racial and social justice: Aims to end systemic issues like mass incarceration and ensure equal justice and opportunity for all.

Environmentalism: Supports transformative action on climate change and environmental protection through government regulation.

Foreign policy: Tends to favor diplomacy over military intervention and advocates for reining in military spending."

See, now you can call somebody by their real political values and beliefs and make perfect sense now. Ain't words great when they're not being used as labels to vilify them with?

As opposed to the right being conservative, the left is progressive, as a natural dichotomy. So "progressive" describes no uniquely distinct wing of the left.

The difference being progressive means a particularly moderate stance when compared to far left ideologies. We have conservatives and we have liberals. Progressives describe those a little further left than mainstream liberals, but not leftist in any communist or anarchic sense. Words matter. Use the right ones when referring to people's political positions.

Leftists, like Islamists, are distinct from the generally progressive left in that they want bigger government, with higher taxes to fund it, in order to force their policies on people (like Islamists wanting government to enforce Sharia law).

There are liberal Christians and liberal Muslims. It's the fundamentalists of those religions as well as orthodox Jews and conservative Catholics that are rightwing. Hence their equal support for intolerance of alternative lifestyles, homophobia, scriptural literalism, hypermoralism, and goals of a theocratic utopia where their one creed will reign supreme. That's totally right wing if not fascist.

We've been through decades of the left cancelling, deplatforming, boycotting, etc. over nothing more than policy differences.

McCarthy was the original canceller and deplatformer par excellelance. And conservative Christians have always boycotted and review bombed movies and products that gripe their butts. Not to mention committing abortion doctor killings and clinic bombings and gay bar shootups. I don't think you have much ground to stand on here.

But sure, where on the Democrat left are policies that aren't seeking to "subvert the values of conservative America"? @_@
Go ahead, tell us.

There's no such thing as a political policy bent on subverting values. Except maybe for anarchism. But overall most democratic policies are based on values of their own, among these being environmental protection and ecology and the transition to renewable energies, the defense of minorities including religions from hatecrimes and discrimination, world peace, aid to starving nations, pandemic prevention measures, and universal health care. I can't see conservatives being against these for any substantial reason. Seems to me we could all unite on these common goals.

[Syne]

No, "progressive," as the name implies, has an ever changing meaning. It's not a stable social/political platform.

Yes it does. It has a very specific and modern platform that most MAGA are simply totally ignorant of:

Modern progressivism

"Today, progressivism is a left-leaning political philosophy that advocates for an active government role in addressing a wide range of social and economic issues. Modern progressives support a more robust social safety net and regulatory framework than most political liberals or moderates.

Key tenets of modern progressivism:

Healthcare: Advocates for universal healthcare, such as a "Medicare for All" system.

Economic policy: Supports measures to address wealth inequality, such as progressive taxation, a living wage, stronger labor protections, and a robust package of social services.

Racial and social justice: Aims to end systemic issues like mass incarceration and ensure equal justice and opportunity for all.

Environmentalism: Supports transformative action on climate change and environmental protection through government regulation.

Foreign policy: Tends to favor diplomacy over military intervention and advocates for reining in military spending."

See, now you can call somebody by their real political values and beliefs and make perfect sense now. Ain't words great when they're not being used as labels to vilify them with?

Now show how that differs from the Democrat party platform. 9_9

As opposed to the right being conservative, the left is progressive, as a natural dichotomy. So "progressive" describes no uniquely distinct wing of the left.

The difference being progressive means a particularly moderate stance when compared to far left ideologies. We have conservatives and we have liberals. Progressives describe those a little further left than mainstream liberals, but not leftist in any communist or anarchic sense. Words matter. Use the right ones when referring to people's political positions.

Again, everything you listed are values shared by all Democrats. AOC and Bernie Sander claim to be progressives and a Democrat Socialists, which blows your supposed distinction right out of the water.
There are no conservative Democrats.

Leftists, like Islamists, are distinct from the generally progressive left in that they want bigger government, with higher taxes to fund it, in order to force their policies on people (like Islamists wanting government to enforce Sharia law).

There are liberal Christians and liberal Muslims. It's the fundamentalists of those religions as well as orthodox Jews and conservative Catholics that are rightwing. Hence their equal support for intolerance of alternative lifestyles, homophobia, scriptural literalism, hypermoralism, and goals of a theocratic utopia where their one creed will reign supreme. That's totally right wing if not fascist.

Wow, you can't even manage to understand a simple analogy. I wasn't equating leftists and Islamists, moron.

We've been through decades of the left cancelling, deplatforming, boycotting, etc. over nothing more than policy differences.

McCarthy was the original canceller and deplatformer par excellelance. And conservative Christians have always boycotted and review bombed movies and products that gripe their butts. Not to mention committing abortion doctor killings and clinic bombings and gay bar shootups. I don't think you have much ground to stand on here.

Notice how you have to omit decades of actual blackballing in Hollywood. And if you want to claim all conservatives are guilty for a few being violent, you own Charlie Kirk's murder. See how that works?

But sure, where on the Democrat left are policies that aren't seeking to "subvert the values of conservative America"? @_@
Go ahead, tell us.

There's no such thing as a political policy bent on subverting values. Except maybe for anarchism. But overall most democratic policies are based on values of their own, among these being environmental protection and ecology and the transition to renewable energies, the defense of minorities including religions from hatecrimes and discrimination, world peace, aid to starving nations, pandemic prevention measures, and universal health care. I can't see conservatives being against these for any substantial reason. Seems to me we could all unite on these common goals.

Sure there is:

When people believe that political policies subvert their values, they are often concerned with issues that intersect with personal morality, cultural norms, and democratic principles. What one group perceives as a policy that supports their values, another group might see as subverting theirs. This is especially true in a polarized political climate.
- Google AI

When you seek to change something, a la progress, you are literally subverting what already exists.
Learn simple English, dipshit.

[Magical Realist]

When people believe that political policies subvert their values, they are often concerned with issues that intersect with personal morality, cultural norms, and democratic principles. What one group perceives as a policy that supports their values, another group might see as subverting theirs

Exactly what I said:

There's no such thing as a political policy bent on subverting values. Except maybe for anarchism. But overall most democratic policies are based on values of their own

Quote one democrat or progressive stating they are for subverting other values with their policy. Nobody thinks like that dipshit. Except for maybe Donny Dumbass.

[Syne]

Well, no accounting for you being completely illiterate.
You don't have to "state" it to be doing it, moron.

[Magical Realist]

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[Syne]

Yet it's been leftist murders who write leftist slogans on their weapons and ammo recently.