Trump's speech about 2020 election fraud unaired on TV networks

#11
stryder Offline
Headline should read:

Dog chases own tail from 2020.

So much chasing of things that are in the past, and very little concentration on actually what to do in the future.
If anything it suggests that it's more about filling the media with low level crap to cover up not having actually anything valid to say or do.
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#13
Magical Realist Offline
Meh..we've heard it all before.

"President Donald Trump said TV networks that did not feature live coverage of his primetime address on election security should have their broadcast licenses revoked.

CNN, ABC and NBC opted against live coverage of the speech in which Trump claimed China illegally accessed millions of voter files as part of a broader effort to manipulate U.S. elections in 2018 and 2020.

Other outlets, including CBS, MS NOW and Fox News, chose to broadcast the speech at least in part. NBC and ABC aired Trump’s remarks on their streaming channels.

Trump called out NBC and ABC during his remarks, accusing the networks of covering up what he labeled election fraud.

“In a rare move, NBC and ABC fake news have both said that they would not cover this speech. They knew what it was about,” he said. “Fraud like this should mean a revocation of their licenses.”

TV networks are not required to air presidential remarks in primetime. Past presidents have traditionally reserved such major addresses for national crises or critical moments. Outlets have traditionally provided live coverage, but there have been exceptions."--- https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/16...b-01002580
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#14
stryder Offline
(Jul 18, 2026 12:40 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Meh..we've heard it all before.

"President Donald Trump said TV networks that did not feature live coverage of his primetime address on election security should have their broadcast licenses revoked.

CNN, ABC and NBC opted against live coverage of the speech in which Trump claimed China illegally accessed millions of voter files as part of a broader effort to manipulate U.S. elections in 2018 and 2020.

Other outlets, including CBS, MS NOW and Fox News, chose to broadcast the speech at least in part. NBC and ABC aired Trump’s remarks on their streaming channels.

Trump called out NBC and ABC during his remarks, accusing the networks of covering up what he labeled election fraud.

“In a rare move, NBC and ABC fake news have both said that they would not cover this speech. They knew what it was about,” he said. “Fraud like this should mean a revocation of their licenses.”

TV networks are not required to air presidential remarks in primetime. Past presidents have traditionally reserved such major addresses for national crises or critical moments. Outlets have traditionally provided live coverage, but there have been exceptions."--- https://www.politico.com/news/2026/07/16...b-01002580

This comes back to Postal Ballots.

Trump was denied the ability to remove Postal Ballots, now he's got (questionable) evidence of China data mining voter data, specifically the "Addresses" of Voters.
So obviously Trumps not happy he couldn't have his way previously, he's resorting to this to try and push his agenda.
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#15
Syne Offline
In the UK, all votes must arrive before the polls close... not days latter, if they are postmarked on voting day.
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#16
Yazata Offline
Both Russia and China were (and still are) trying to influence the results of American elections. So were the British, Canadians, the Europeans, Iran and any number of others, both officially and unofficially. The CIA noted it in 2016 and 2020, but didn't think that any of them had the ability to change the results.

While it's hard to hack an election since many different systems are used, it's difficult to say for sure. China is known to have successfully hacked pretty much all of America's voter registration information (200 million+ individual voter records) and nobody knows what they are doing with the data. (If you are registered to vote in the United States, you are probably in a Chinese database somewhere.)

Then the Hillary Clinton campaign hit on the idea of exaggerating Russian support for Trump ("Russian bots!"), and then claiming with no evidence at all that Trump was a Russian agent "colluding" with Russia ("Putin's puppet!"). Then when Hillary lost in 2016, claiming with no evidence at all that she would have won if not for Russian subversion. The establishment media helped her stir the whole thing into a national frenzy that dominated the first years of Trump's first term and strove to actually overthrow the government.

The fact that China was doing as much or more to help Hillary and the democrats contradicted that whole "Russia, Russia, Russia" narrative. And it seems that the top politicized levels of the "deep state" (CIA and the other 'alphabet agencies') kept any information about China's efforts on behalf of the democrats out of President Trumps daily intelligence brief for his whole first term. They also kept the information away from Congress. It's only during his second term that the President discovered that they had known all about it.
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#17
Magical Realist Offline
No President Has Embarrassed This Country the Way Trump Did Last Night
His big speech was a dud. But that doesn’t mean it can’t still reverberate in chilling, Constitution-torching ways.

"First of all, I could barely stay awake. It was only a 25-minute speech, and it’s not like 9:25 p.m. is my bedtime, but President Donald Trump’s affect was so strained, his rhetoric so ploddingly predictable, and his “evidence” so vaporous that my mind started wandering at around 9:13. I wondered if it was only me, because I’m obviously not the most objective observer in the world when it comes to Trump, so afterward I flipped on Fox News for a few minutes, long enough to see that even Sean Hannity couldn’t rouse himself into a state of excitation.

So Trump’s much-ballyhooed (chiefly by him) speech Thursday night was a dud. So say I; so, in not so many words, said Hannity (perhaps lurking in the corners of his mind last night was the nearly $800 million his network paid out in a legal settlement after it was caught promoting Trump’s lies); so said Playbook this morning (“Trump’s anticlimax”); so said the gang on Morning Joe. That’s good. It tells us that that power he had over people and institutions a year or 15 months ago has evanesced.

More than that, it was just an embarrassing moment for the United States of America. When has a president ever done anything like that—commandeered the bully pulpit to spread poisonous half-truths and lies? Presidents often lie about this or that particular thing. But no one has ever pressed an obviously bogus case like that. Even the throwaway lines were poisonous lies (“We had transgender for everybody” before he returned to the White House). So it’s unlikely that most Americans are taking it very seriously.

Still: He’s the president, he’s backed by a couple hundred lapdogs on Capitol Hill who will repeat and endorse whatever he says, and of course he is reinforced by a propaganda network that reaches millions of Americans every day that will do the same. So the speech still matters, and it may set in train naked attempts to rig the election and prevent some Americans from voting.

But having seen the speech, and despite what everyone is saying, and indeed despite what I myself assumed going in, I’m not so sure that the main point here was to lay some kind of groundwork for November. Trump may be the most corrupt and furtive man ever to occupy the presidency, but in this one way he is achingly transparent: His motivations are always right out there. And his motivation last night wasn’t really November. It was just what he said. It was 2020.

This man-child with the emotional life of an 11-year-old and an ego that bruises more easily than a three-day-old banana will never stop being obsessed about 2020. In Trump’s mind, Trump can’t lose. It simply can’t happen. (Privately, he has admitted to more than one former aide that he lost, but let’s set that aside for now.) And nothing is ever his fault. Ergo, the election had to be stolen. And he has to “prove” it.

A normal person would let this go after a while and start focusing on the future. The broad interpretation that last night’s speech was really about 2026 and 2028 is a function of people making that assumption. But it’s a fatal assumption in this case. Trump is not normal. Trump is possessed.

His loss must be vindicated, whatever it takes. It might be vindicated by lies. He will know deep down that they are lies, but he won’t care. For Trump, the world is a jungle—eat or be eaten. It’s an authoritarian worldview, because if that’s what you believe, then any action is justified to avoid being the eaten. But he can’t drop it until the vindication is received.

Plenty of dangers lurk for the republic, despite his motivation being mainly retroactive, by the way. The sycophant he wants to install as attorney general, who referred to himself as Trump’s lawyer at his nomination hearing this week, has proven himself more than capable of filing charges against anyone Trump wants him to indict. And the sycophant he wants to install as director of national intelligence, who at his hearing this week couldn’t bring himself to say that Joe Biden won the 2020 election, will presumably gather intel on anyone Trump tells him to look into. So we have every reason on earth to fear that if Todd Blanche and Jay Clayton are confirmed in their respective positions, they’ll take a torch to the Constitution in an attempt to give Trump his vindication.

So picture it. Two and a half more years of sham indictments, destroyed reputations, phony charges repeated by state propagandists who call themselves journalists. And since none of it will work, because the 2020 election was not in fact stolen, it will continue until the day Trump leaves office. Beyond, actually. He’ll be on this jihad until the day that last well-done steak with ketchup arrests whatever’s left of his heart.

That’s bad enough. But yes, inevitably, the speech will have ramifications for this November. It’s hard to know right now what they will be. On the one hand, it seems that his cherished SAVE America Act will never become law. So he probably can’t do that.

Otherwise, though, saying what he said last night about 2020 tees it up for him to repeat as needed between now and November 3 that he—and Attorney General Blanche and DNI Clayton—have unearthed new evidence that the deep staters are up to their old 2020 tricks. Therefore, they have no choice but to deploy ICE agents to certain polling places. This is clearly against federal law. Blanche had said at the Conservative Political Action Conference in March that such a move might be necessary; at his hearing, under questioning from Senator Amy Klobuchar, he said he’d “follow the law,” but his language was slippery.

In sum: Trump’s motivation may be retroactive, but for the Republican Party and the right-wing media machine, the speech’s greatest utility is proactive. Either way, we’re left with the grim reality that a steaming pile of lies that nearly everyone knows to be lies could end up exerting a chilling influence over the administration of justice in this country and our electoral process.

At the same time, let’s conclude on a more positive note. The reaction to the speech is for the most part encouragingly negative and dismissive. The New York Times, well known for the cowardly equivocation of its homepage headlines regarding such matters, actually used the phrase “outlandish claims” in an early headline. For the Times, that’s a shot of Tabasco sauce.

Maybe this speech, combined with those Justice Department goons serving subpoenas to four Times reporters at their homes, will finally convince executive editor Joe Kahn that a newspaper’s job actually is to fight for democracy. The water’s fine, Joe; as Victor Laszlo said to Rick Blaine, it’s never too late to join the fight."

https://newrepublic.com/post/213195/trum...SYOu1GWPeQ
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#19
Yazata Offline
One of the CIA notes that President Trump declassified and made public indicates that China sought to identify American journalists who had written material critical of President Trump during his first term, and then pay those journalists to write more critical material about the President prior to the 2020 election. China was also pressuring leaders of businesses doing lots of business in China to take pro-Biden positions.

“The strategy included efforts to use Chinese contracts with big U.S. companies to influence U.S. business leaders to turn against the U.S. President,” the CIA note reads. “The Chinese Government sought to identify U.S. journalists who had reported negatively on the U.S. President and pay them to write more negative articles about him. The Chinese Government wanted the U.S. President to lose the next election.”

Just imagine the deafening screeching if it ever got out that Russia had strong-armed business leaders and paid conservative journalists to write stories supporting Trump and attacking the democrats! We would never hear the end of it. It would probably lead to another impeachment attempt. Russian asset! Putin's puppet!

But China doing those things in favor of the democrats? Crickets. Neither the President or Congress was ever informed.
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#20
Syne Offline
(Jul 18, 2026 06:49 PM)Yazata Wrote: Just imagine the deafening screeching if it ever got out that Russia had strong-armed business leaders and paid conservative journalists to write stories supporting Trump and attacking the democrats! We would never hear the end of it. It would probably lead to another impeachment attempt. Russian asset! Putin's puppet!

But China doing those things in favor of the democrats? Crickets. Neither the President or Congress was ever informed.

Typical hypocrisy.
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