Will Iran regime fall, or just another umpteenth fail of protesters? (rerun hobbies)

[Yazata]

This just in: The US has granted the two week extension that the Pakistani PM asked for, conditional on reopening the Strait of Hormuz. President Trump called it a "double sided ceasefire", so it might include halting Iranian missile and drone attacks and the ongoing US air attacks on military targets. I'm not clear on that, or where Israel fits into all this. If it is a reasonably full cease fire, I can see the possibility of it being extended beyond two weeks.

[Magical Realist]

So another empty threat from General Bonespurs. I knew this would happen. And Yazata was SO looking forward to posting pics of things being blown up! lol

[Yazata]

So another empty threat...

If the threat brought the Iranians to the negotiating table and made them more willing to make a deal, the threat served its purpose.

Oil tankers should start moving through Hormuz tonight. If Iran molests them, the attacks on Iranian infrastructure targets would probably begin immediately.

I knew this would happen.

So why the 'war crimes' narrative?

And Yazata was SO looking forward to posting pics of things being blown up! lol

Only their stuff!

[Magical Realist]

So why the 'war crimes' narrative?

Because that's what it would be if he did it.

"Targeting Civilians: The Geneva Conventions prohibit direct attacks on civilian objects. Power plants are generally considered civilian infrastructure unless they are used for military purposes (dual-use).

Proportionality: Even if a power plant is considered a legitimate "dual-use" target, attacking it is prohibited if the anticipated harm to civilians is excessive in relation to the direct military advantage. Destruction of power grids can lead to catastrophic civilian suffering (loss of electricity for hospitals, water sanitation, etc.), which often makes such attacks disproportionate.

Customary Law: The rules protecting civilians are widely accepted as customary international law, binding on all states, regardless of whether they have signed specific treaties.

Dangerous Forces: Special protection exists for installations containing "dangerous forces," such as nuclear power plants, which cannot be targeted if doing so would cause severe losses among the civilian population."

[Syne]

If you could read... you'd see he didn't say "the whole Iranian civilization."
IOW, it's your strawman.

9_9

He actually said "“A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again". That means the whole Iranian civilization dumbass. Which is genocide. Muslim regimes are not "whole civilizations".

Still can't see how you keep adding "Iranian," huh? 9_9

You don't realize that the majority Persian civilization is distinct from the radical Muslim civilization? Of course not. You're a dolt.

[Magical Realist]

Still can't see how you keep adding "Iranian," huh? 9_9

You're a moron if you think the whole civilization refers to any one other the Iranian one.

You don't realize that the majority Persian civilization is distinct from the radical Muslim civilization? Of course not. You're a dolt.

Which only underscores Trump's stupidity in saying this. And there's no such thing as a "radical Muslim civilization." You are as stupid as Trump.

"Radical Muslim movements exist as ideological, political, and militant factions rather than a distinct, geographically unified civilization. These groups, often described as Islamists or jihadists, aim to enforce strict, fundamentalist interpretations of early Islamic texts, rejecting modern secular values and frequently targeting the West."

[Syne]

You don't realize that the majority Persian civilization is distinct from the radical Muslim civilization? Of course not. You're a dolt.

Which only underscores Trump's stupidity in saying this.

No, Trump... and every rational adult... knows exactly which one he's talking about.
It's just the illiterate TDS, like you, who are so easy baffled.

9_9

[Magical Realist]

You don't realize that the majority Persian civilization is distinct from the radical Muslim civilization? Of course not. You're a dolt.

Which only underscores Trump's stupidity in saying this.

No, Trump... and every rational adult... knows exactly which one he's talking about.
It's just the illiterate TDS, like you, who are so easy baffled.

9_9

And there's no such thing as a "radical Muslim civilization."

"Radical Muslim movements exist as ideological, political, and militant factions rather than a distinct, geographically unified civilization. These groups, often described as Islamists or jihadists, aim to enforce strict, fundamentalist interpretations of early Islamic texts, rejecting modern secular values and frequently targeting the West."

Expecting a grown man/our national leader to say correctly what he means before the whole world is a minimum standard I'd apply to anyone. Expecting him not to threaten genocide is even less of a minimum. There's nothing TDS about it.

[Syne]

And there's no such thing as a "radical Muslim civilization."

"Radical Muslim movements exist as ideological, political, and militant factions rather than a distinct, geographically unified civilization. These groups, often described as Islamists or jihadists, aim to enforce strict, fundamentalist interpretations of early Islamic texts, rejecting modern secular values and frequently targeting the West."

Expecting a grown man/our national leader to say correctly what he means before the whole world is a minimum standard I'd apply to anyone. Expecting him not to threaten genocide is even less of a minimum. There's nothing TDS about it.

Theocratic Muslim civilization, characterized by a fusion of religious and political authority (the Caliphate), has existed for over 1,400 years, originating with Muhammad’s leadership in Medina in 622 CE. This structure, where political rule is based on Islamic law (Sharia), evolved from the Rashidun and Umayyad Caliphates (7th–8th centuries) through the Abbasid Golden Age to later empires like the Ottoman Empire, which lasted until 1924.

While modern theocratic states are often viewed as repressive or authoritarian by international standards, they are not always considered "radical" in the sense of being terrorist or revolutionary.
- Google AI

Guess what the Iran regime, with the Revolutionary Guard and sponsoring terrorism, is considered.

[Yazata]

Today's "agreement" is already in danger of breaking down after 90 minutes.

Iran is continuing to fire missiles at Israel. And Iran's "Supreme National Security Council" is claiming that the United States has agreed to Iran's 10-Point plan:

Since Iran's plan includes Iranian control of the Strait of Hormuz, Iran keeping its nuclear enrichment, US paying reparations, US withdrawing its military forces from the Middle East, and halting war on all fronts including against Hezbollah in Lebanon... there's just about zero chance that the US has agreed to any of that.