Manbaby has a hissy over Canada's anti-tariff TV commercial

[Zinjanthropos]

I'm not a Doug Ford fan. I've never supported him and his party in any provincial election. He leads the Provincial end of the Progressive Conservative Party (PC) an oxymoronic title at best, whereas the Federal wing of PC is the official opposition to the governing Liberals headed up by Mark Carney our Prime Minister (PM). So I doubt very much if Carney was even aware Ford was going to do this and yesterday the PM asked him to stop, yet I think the ad will continue until weekend"s end. Haven't seen it personally and don't care if I do. I liked Reagan too.

I think Carney and Trump have a plan for trade but the PC interference has thrown a perceived wrench into trade talks and conveniently given Trump a reason to get away from it for awhile and get back to business, anything other than trade talk right now. Also gives the PM a chance to allow the PCs to look stupid.

Even when Carney visited The WH just prior to ME ceasefire they didn't discuss trade, just the peace plan. So I think things are cool with the two. Gives us a chance to find new trade partners and reduce reliance on US companies and products. It's a slow process so not expecting trade talks to suddenly happen. No surprise that Trump haters would make it sound as if Canada was being disciplined. A lot of BS over nothing, IMO.

[Magical Realist]

Not sure how it profits America when tariffs literally mean higher prices for Americans.

The premise of protectionism is that higher prices is only a temporary cost for the greater long term gain of boosted domestic production. It is assumed that it profits America to cut itself off from relying on foreign countries, a hard case to make in a world increasingly interdependent and globally competitive.

[C C]

I'm not a Doug Ford fan. I've never supported him and his party in any provincial election. He leads the Provincial end of the Progressive Conservative Party (PC) an oxymoronic title at best, whereas the Federal wing of PC is the official opposition to the governing Liberals headed up by Mark Carney our Prime Minister (PM). So I doubt very much if Carney was even aware Ford was going to do this and yesterday the PM asked him to stop, yet I think the ad will continue until weekend"s end. Haven't seen it personally and don't care if I do. I liked Reagan too.

I think Carney and Trump have a plan for trade but the PC interference has thrown a perceived wrench into trade talks and conveniently given Trump a reason to get away from it for awhile and get back to business, anything other than trade talk right now. Also gives the PM a chance to allow the PCs to look stupid.

Even when Carney visited The WH just prior to ME ceasefire they didn't discuss trade, just the peace plan. So I think things are cool with the two. Gives us a chance to find new trade partners and reduce reliance on US companies and products. It's a slow process so not expecting trade talks to suddenly happen. No surprise that Trump haters would make it sound as if Canada was being disciplined. A lot of BS over nothing, IMO.

Yah, it seems to be an Ontarian misadventure more than anything else. If Carney can smooth things out, and the Trump administration can better specify that Reagan was obviously not against addressing particular unfair trade practices directed at the US (rather than encapsulating those details under the broadness of a "fake ad" trope), then Trump's paranoia about the ad possibly affecting the SCOTUS decision might be mitigated.

But the perception of the US actively counter-responding to and negotiating with respect to multiple tariffs is still going to be portrayed in some corners as inciting widespread economic conflict. In combination with the traditional fatalism that the US (as world leader or whatever) is obligated -- in some kind of informal and "remain silent" way -- to ignore the majority of unfair trade practices directed against it for the sake of maintaining world stability (in the commercial exchange domain).

And deploying tariffs as a cudgel (outside the context of the "Fair and Reciprocal Plan") -- like in the case of penalizing India for buying Russian oil and weapons -- is going to continue feeding negativity about Trump's approach in the progressive establishment.

[Zinjanthropos]

Just heard Trump is going to raise tariffs 10% in retaliation. This also plays into Carney’s hands, federal PCs are trying to defeat the Liberals in Parliament and set the stage for another federal election, not something Canadians wish for right now, well some might. I think the tariff problem has now landed in the laps of the PC party leaders. Trump has just made them responsible but only the Liberal leader can fix it. Bad move on Ford’s part.

[Syne]

Not sure how it profits America when tariffs literally mean higher prices for Americans.

The premise of protectionism is that higher prices is only a temporary cost for the greater long term gain of boosted domestic production. It is assumed that it profits America to cut itself off from relying on foreign countries, a hard case to make in a world increasingly interdependent and globally competitive.

I notice you completely avoided other nations' protectionist policies... and how the US should rectify those unfair trade polices.

The higher prices are only as temporary as the tariffs. But the longer they exist, the more likely the prices are to get baked into the economy, with inflation and wages finding a new balance. The problem is that the workforce is finite, so more domestic production will likely also mean increased production costs. And this feeds back into the ever-increasing balance between inflation and wages.

And once the tariffs end, domestic production is immediately off-shored again. So in the long run, it doesn't benefit the US.

But it could actually help other countries. If other countries allowed US goods to compete more fairly, and if their consumers were willing to pay the higher prices (whether due to quality or prestige), their own production could be pushed to higher quality to compete. This could raise their overall standard of living to a greater parity with the US... partially by making their own exports more expensive.

[Magical Realist]

Meanwhile..pissy manbaby imposes 10% tariffs on Canada for airing the jarring truth about tariffs..

"President Trump doubled down on Saturday in his feud with Canada over a television ad that used audio of former President Ronald Reagan denouncing tariffs, saying he would punish the country with an additional 10 percent tariff on its goods.

Mr. Trump had already suspended monthslong trade talks with Canada, the United States’ second-largest trading partner, on Thursday night because of the ad, which had been paid for by Ontario. Though the ad faithfully reproduced Mr. Reagan’s words, just in a different order, Mr. Trump has insisted it was “fraudulent” after the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation and Institute said it had made “selective” use of the five-minute original address.

The latest twist in the Canada-United States saga comes as the two countries have been locked in intensive talks over lowering some U.S. tariffs on key Canadian goods. The countries’ relationship has drastically deteriorated since Mr. Trump’s election, as he has menaced the close U.S. ally with tariffs and spoken of making Canada the 51st state.

Canadians have reacted with anger and have rallied around the flag in a rare burst of patriotism, but the Canadian economy has been suffering the consequences of the dispute. Ontario, in particular, has much at stake in trade relations with the United States, and its premier on Friday posted the entire Reagan address online.

The audio used in the province’s ad was authentic, and minor edits to the original 1987 address did not alter the substance of Mr. Reagan’s remarks, which were highly critical of tariffs’ consequences. Following Mr. Trump’s outrage, though, the province pulled it from the airwaves, effective Monday.

Still, the commercial was shown during the first World Series game Friday evening, during which the Toronto Blue Jays defeated the Los Angeles Dodgers in a home game."

[Syne]

They did alter key details in the edit. Too bad you, and apparently plenty of other leftists, can't follow simple English worth a damn.
You're still the one whining like a baby... while not bothering to cite your sources.

[Magical Realist]

They did alter key details in the edit.

No they didn't. The quotes were accurate and were really Reagan's. Videographers do it all the time with video clips. Trump is lying that it was faked. Do you know what "fake" means?

[Syne]

Edits alter meaning by leaving out context, which clearly happened here.
But as usual, your tenuous grasp of English thwarts you.

[Magical Realist]

Edits alter meaning by leaving out context, which clearly happened here.

Nothing was altered by the edits. And the context made no difference. I showed that in the OP. So what does "faked" mean to you?