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Magical Realist
Aug 2, 2025 11:27 PM
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Aww...poor wittle baby didn't get a good jobs report. What a fuckin asshole.
"President Donald Trump on Friday ordered the firing of the head of the Bureau of Labor Statistics, hours after a stunning government report showed that hiring had slowed down significantly over the past three months.
Taking to Truth Social, he attacked Erika McEntarfer, the commissioner of the BLS. He claimed that the country's jobs reports "are being produced by Biden appointee" and ordered his administration to terminate her.
"We need accurate Jobs Numbers," Trump wrote. "She will be replaced with someone much more competent and qualified. Important numbers like this must be fair and accurate, they can’t be manipulated for political purposes."
He intensified his attack in a later post, writing: "In my opinion, today’s Jobs Numbers were RIGGED in order to make the Republicans, and ME, look bad." He didn't cite any evidence for his claim.
The BLS on Friday morning reported that the U.S. economy added just 73,000 jobs in July, well below estimates. It also said it had revised the May and June numbers and they turned out to be lower than previously announced by more than 200,000 jobs."
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy...rcna222531
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Syne
Aug 2, 2025 11:37 PM
Manbaby cries about the executive lawfully firing someone from the executive branch.
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Magical Realist
Aug 2, 2025 11:41 PM
(Aug 2, 2025 11:37 PM)Syne Wrote: Manbaby cries about the executive lawfully firing someone from the executive branch.
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Based on the blatant lie that she cooked the books for political reasons. You do see the difference?
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Syne
Aug 2, 2025 11:56 PM
Yes, I see that the executive can fire anyone in the executive branch for any reason at all.
And you're crying about it because he's the executive.
What I don't see is you making any substantive argument for why you think this particular person was doing an amazing job.
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Aug 3, 2025 12:02 AM
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Quote:And you're crying about it because he's the executive.
No liar. I'm objecting to it because it is morally wrong for a President to just make up shit and then fire someone over it. It would be just as wrong no matter who the President was. That's how morality works. It applies equally to everybody. Even your manbaby.
Quote:What I don't see is you making any substantive argument for why you think this particular person was doing an amazing job.
So you're claiming she cooked the books just as Trump said? What evidence do you have to support that?
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Syne
Aug 3, 2025 01:43 AM
Nonsense. There's nothing "morally wrong" about a President firing someone in the executive branch, for any reason. That's like claiming it's morally wrong for a CEO to fire someone in his company. In both cases, it's obviously well-within their purview. And just like any CEO, Trump is free to have his own "opinion," just as he stated. Your moralizing is just a bullshit partisan attack. I didn't see you object to this:
Biden’s Firing Spree
The new White House has sought dismissals of Trump holdovers to an unusual degree — though media outrage is muted this time.
Biden actually set the precedent for Trump's rash of firings.
I don't care why she was fired. Trump has every right, as President, to determine who works for the executive branch. Period.
And you obviously don't have any argument that she was so exemplary at her job that there's no one better qualified or suited to the position. So you're just crying that a Dem was fired.
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Magical Realist
Aug 3, 2025 02:06 AM
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Quote:There's nothing "morally wrong" about a President firing someone in the executive branch, for any reason. That's like claiming it's morally wrong for a CEO to fire someone in his company
Yes it is. Unless you're a sociopath who approves of making up shit that someone did something and then firing them for it. It's wrong for Presidents and it's wrong for CEOs. If a CEO was ever caught doing something like that he'd be ousted immediately. We expect honesty and integrity from our elected leaders. Some kind of moral backbone that keeps them truthful and rational. Evidently you don't as you basically approve of everything Trump does just because he's your man.
And not only is it morally wrong, it is damaging to the credibility of the office of BLS due to future reports now being called into question because of the threat of firing from Trump for those that our unfavorable to his administration. Nobody can trust them anymore because they will not reflect the actual state of the employment anymore and instead only be what Trump wants to hear.
Quote:I don't care why she was fired.
So you agree with Trump making up a lie about her just because he didn't like the jobs report? Would you ever do something like that?
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Syne
Aug 3, 2025 06:09 AM
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Any CEO would want more accurate reports, and could have personal "opinions" about skills, work ethic, etc. of certain employees. In every state, except Montana, at-will employment means you can be fired for ANY reason, or even no reason at all. So no, you're just ignorant if you think a CEO would be ousted simply for firing an employee... for ANY reason.
She might of had a case of defamation, except that Trump clearly said it was his "opinion." Everyone has the right to their own opinions, even the President. There's nothing dishonest about a personally held opinion and no law against using personal opinions in employment decisions, so long as they are not discriminatory. You might not agree with it, but that's your own opinion... just another asshole.
Personally, I'm all for continuing Biden's precedent of firing people just for being the opposing party. No other reason needed. That's what Dems get for weaponizing the government. Trump's personal reasons are his own.
BLS reports have routinely been inaccurate and required later revision. This is nothing new and doesn't damage it's credibility, as they always have to be taken with a grain of salt. The question is in which direction they have to be revised and if that has any consistent relation to the party of the commissioner versus the party of the current President. I don't know if it does.
Again, you're only crying about Trump, without any substantive reason why the commissioner was doing an exemplary job and shouldn't have been fired on her merit. If not, there's obviously room for improvement. Reason enough right there, moralistic prig.
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Magical Realist
Aug 3, 2025 06:27 AM
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Quote:She might of had a case of defamation, except that Trump clearly said it was his "opinion." Everyone has the right to their own opinions, even the President.
Nope...no opinion involved when you deliberately make up a lie about someone just because their expert-generated economic report doesn't suit your fancy. It's simply immoral as all dishonest vindictiveness is. And even worse than that, it is simply childish and typical of a very immature mind to hit out at people because they deliver news you don't like. Remember the old adage about shooting the messenger? It applies here in spades. As a nation we expect more grown up behavior and civility from our 79 yr old commander in chief. Evidently that is a bridge too far in Trump's case. He's an embarrassing piece of shit and everyone around the world sees it.
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Syne
Aug 3, 2025 07:13 AM
He literally said, "In my opinion."
You don't get to decide what other people believe.
Your "expectations" are hypocritical bullshit, as you've already demonstrated in this very thread by ignoring Biden doing the same things.
He fired people for simply being Republicans and he's even defamed people:
https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/pol...360716007/
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/kyl...e-rcna5453
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