Trump's imaginary "War"

#41
Syne Offline
Wow. So now citing a source to show you don't understand basic judicial processes is "frantic"?
I was just explaining the simple legal doctrine of stare decisis, which makes higher court precedent binding on lower courts. It's very elementary jurisprudence.

Can you say projecting? I knew you could.
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#42
Magical Realist Offline
Oops..forgot about that insecurity issue. Yes Syne...you knew about it all along. You're a frigg'n legal expert now. All in the service of your fat orange overlord. lol
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#43
Syne Offline
(Oct 5, 2025 03:46 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Oops..forgot about that insecurity issue. Yes Syne...you knew about it all along. You're a frigg'n legal expert now. All in the service of your fat orange overlord. lol

Hey, if you want to keep telling everyone that you have no idea how district courts are bound by their higher, appellate court precedents, keep going. Just keep digging that Dunning-Kruger hole of yours.
Again, you're projecting your obvious ignorance. Unlike you, I regularly watch/read content about legal cases, including these:
https://www.youtube.com/@WashingtonGunLaw/featured
https://www.youtube.com/@ArmedAttorneys/featured
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#44
Magical Realist Offline
There there Syne. Now go lay down with your chewtoy. There's a good boy!
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#45
Syne Offline
It's sad when all you have left is trolling.
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#46
Magical Realist Offline
Federal DHS agent pepper sprays 19 yr old Portland woman in the face just for talking, confirming the long held suspicion that the riot doesn't start till the riot police show up. Trump wants a televised shit show, and it looks like he'll get it one way or another.

https://youtu.be/8e4N59i2KjE
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#47
Magical Realist Offline
"The state of Oregon plans to return to court to challenge the Trump administration’s deployment of the California National Guard to Portland after a judge had temporarily paused the plan to use the Oregon National Guard, the state’s attorney general said Sunday.

“What was unlawful with the Oregon National Guard is unlawful with the California National Guard,” Attorney General Dan Rayfield said in a news conference. “The judge’s order was not some minor procedural point for the president to work around like my 14-year-old does when he doesn’t like my answers.”

The state amended its original complaint in federal district court and plans to file a second temporary restraining order to pause the president’s actions, Rayfield said.

In response to the amended complaint, White House spokesperson Abigail Jackson said in a statement, “The facts haven’t changed: President Trump exercised his lawful authority to protect federal assets and personnel in Portland following violent riots and attacks on law enforcement.”

About 100 California National Guard troops have already arrived in Oregon and more are on the way, Oregon Gov. Tina Kotek said earlier Sunday.

“At the direction of the President, approximately 200 federalized members of the California National Guard are being reassigned from duty in the greater Los Angeles area to Portland, Oregon to support U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement and other federal personnel performing official duties, including the enforcement of federal law, and to protect federal property,” Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said in a statement to Reuters.

US District Judge Karin Immergut granted a temporary restraining order Saturday blocking President Donald Trump from sending the Oregon National Guard to Portland, the state’s largest city, ruling that city and Oregon officials “are likely to succeed on their claim that the President exceeded his constitutional authority and violated the Tenth Amendment” in ordering the deployment.

Kotek said the president’s move to send troops from California appears to intentionally sidestep Immergut’s ruling, which the Trump administration said it would appeal."-----
https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/05/us/oregon...onal-guard
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#48
Syne Offline
Seems to be using the same troops the Ninth Circuit already ruled on to drive the point home.
Oregon was just so shortsighted that they limited their first suit to Oregon National Guard troops.
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#49
Magical Realist Offline
Booyah! Nothing quite like pissing off a federal judge on a Sunday night!

"A federal judge Sunday night issued a new broader order barring any National Guard members from being relocated from any state for federal service in the state of Oregon.

During an unusual, late-night hearing by phone, U.S. District Judge Karin J. Immergut said she was troubled to learn that the Trump administration had already sent about 200 California National Guard members to Oregon and that Texas National Guard members were now authorized by the defense secretary to be transferred as well to Oregon to protect federal property and officers.

She found that the Trump administration was directly violating her prior order issued Saturday, in which she found no justification for federalized military to serve anywhere in the state.

Sometime after midnight early Sunday, 101 California National Guard members landed in Oregon at the Portland Air National Guard base, and another 99 were set to arrive between 4 and 5 p.m., after Immergut Saturday night had blocked Trump from deploying Oregon National Guard members at Portland’s ICE building on the South Waterfront.


“It is not appropriate to bring federalized military into Oregon at this time,” she said. “I’m troubled by the direct contravention of my (prior) order.”

Immergut grilled the federal government’s attorney Eric Hamilton, asking how he can circumvent her prior order based on her earlier finding halting any Oregon National Guard mobilization to Portland.

“You’re an officer of the court,” she told him. “Do you believe this is an appropriate way to deal with a judge’s order that you disagree with?”

Hamilton said the federalized California National Guard members were sent to Oregon to protect federal property and personnel, and argued that the state of California did not have authority to challenge the transfer since its Guard members already were under Trump’s command and control.

“Mr. Hamilton, you are missing the point,” Immergut responded.

“There is not a legal basis to bring federalized National Guard members into Oregon,” the judge said. “You have to have a colorable claim that Oregon conditions require it, but you don’t, so why is this appropriate?”

The state of Oregon and City of Portland added the state of California on Sunday to a new amended suit filed against the Trump administration, and sought the new emergency order to block California National Guard troops from mobilizing at Portland’s ICE facility.

They asked the judge to block the deployment of the California National Guard members, or in the alternative, prohibit the Trump administration from sending any National Guard members from any other state under his command to Oregon once they learned late Sunday that Texas National Guard troops were also being mobilized to Oregon.


Immergut quickly scheduled the evening hearing.

“It feels like we’re playing a game of rhetorical wac-o-mole,” said attorney Scott Kennedy, representing the Oregon Department of Justice. “We need to broaden this relief to prevent this gamesmanship from persisting.”

After the state of Oregon filed a motion Sunday afternoon for a new temporary restraining order to halt the deployment of California National Guard troops, the state received a memorandum from Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth federalizing members of the Texas National Guard to serve in Oregon.

“It’s hard to know if this was cause and effect,” Kennedy said.

Immergut, in a sweeping 31-page ruling filed in court about 4:30 p.m. on Saturday, found that there was no “threat of rebellion” or any credible legal justification for the deployment of National Guard members to Portland.

Title 10, Section 12406, allows the President to “call into Federal service members and units of the National Guard of any State in such numbers as he considers necessary,” to either repel an invasion, suppress a rebellion or ensure federal laws can be executed."

https://www.oregonlive.com/politics/2025...qGrUCkWCMw

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#50
Syne Offline
That picture is at least 11 years old and not ICE.

Again, we'll see if the Ninth Circuit takes kindly to a lower court contradicting their ruling.
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