Trump's imaginary "War"

#51
Syne Offline

A federal judge in Illinois declined to immediately block the Trump administration from deploying National Guard troops in the state, giving the administration until Wednesday night to respond to the lawsuit filed by Illinois and Chicago.
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But U.S. District Judge April Perry allowed the Trump administration until 11:59 p.m. on Wednesday to respond to the lawsuit and set a date for oral arguments to take place, at 11 a.m. Thursday.
https://www.opb.org/article/2025/10/06/f...-illinois/


Two conflicting district court rulings would tee it up for SCOTUS to hear.
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#52
Magical Realist Offline
Trump's got his panties all in a wad since a judge HE appointed blocked him twice from sending ANY National Guard troops to Portland. Today he denounced Portland as "a burning hellhole." Meanwhile temps are in the 60's here with fragrant autumn breezes and baby blue skies. Trump should come visit us instead of watching Fox News video clips all the time. I'm sure we can stitch together an XXXL flame retardant suit that would fit him snugly.


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#53
Syne Offline
(Oct 2, 2025 03:49 AM)Syne Wrote:

Violent Antifa criminals have laid siege to the ICE detention center in Portland, Oregon, for over 100 days.

Every night the encampment of wackos – some dressed as a unicorn or a chicken – blast loud music, engage in anti-government chants over loudspeakers and megaphones, and when they violently clash with law enforcement officers it reverberates around the neighborhood.

Since the protest started on June 2, neighbor Cloud Elvengrail has barely slept. Assaulted and bullied by the Antifa goons, she describes the area as a “war zone” and “terrifying.”

On paper she’s exactly the type of person the mob claim to stand up for: a disabled African-American woman living in a low-income, subsidized apartment complex next to the ICE facility.

“If you’re wealthy and connected, the city is safe for you. If you’re poor, Black, and disabled, or a domestic violence victim, the City’s message to us is clear, ‘You’re on your own,’” Elvengrail said, via a statement from her lawyer.

She has welcomed President Trump’s intervention into the “war ravaged” city, which has included making all Antifa supporters domestic terrorists and sending in 200 National Guard troops.
- https://nypost.com/2025/10/01/us-news/in...ing-it-up/

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#54
Magical Realist Offline
LOL Digging up that article about that old lady who couldn't sleep again. If you'd been watching the news, there's no Antifa to be seen. These are just anti ice protesters, many of them just aging hippies participating in an activity totally protected under the law. In other words, you got nuthin.
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#55
Syne Offline
I'm just taking the word of an eyewitness.
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#57
Syne Offline
And? Portlandians are largely not attacking each other. So that's a false dilemma. Two things can be true at the same time. They can be in peaceful solidarity with each other and still be threatening violence to federal agents. In war zones, there is always a front, where the actual fighting occurs. Just because the fighting isn't in your neighborhood, doesn't mean no fighting is happening.
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#58
Yazata Offline
Periodically attacking the ICE building and attempting daily to prevent government vehicles from arriving and leaving, would seem to me to go far beyond activities protected by law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/111

To say nothing of unlawful assembly, failure to disperse, assault on individuals who aren't federal law enforcement officers and all that.
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#59
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Periodically attacking the ICE building and attempting daily to prevent government vehicles from arriving and leaving, would seem to me to go far beyond activities protected by law.

And yet it doesn't rise to the level of an insurrection against the Federal Government requiring troop deployment, which is exactly what we saw at the Capitol on Jan 6. Funny how MAGA wasn't complaining about that then..I actually watch the local news here on the ICE protest every night. Maybe 20 protestors playing music and carrying signs. No sign of bldg destruction at all. MAGA counterprotesters are coming in from out of town as far as Texas. They love this shit, making protesters look like rioters. All it's doing in creating a more volatile situation.

EDIT: Breaking news..DHS secretary and MAGA bimbo Kristi Noem to arrive here soon. They now have the street taped off. Probably to play up the need to troop deployment.
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#60
C C Offline
(Oct 7, 2025 07:29 PM)Yazata Wrote: Periodically attacking the ICE building and attempting daily to prevent government vehicles from arriving and leaving, would seem to me to go far beyond activities protected by law.

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/111

To say nothing of unlawful assembly, failure to disperse, assault on individuals who aren't federal law enforcement officers and all that.

There's no getting around that blue state and blue city governments are doing whatever they can to hinder ICE activity (and even put ICE agents at risk). So if the local police aren't reliable, then there is arguably more justification for resorting to military reserves to protect and facilitate ICE than there is for the other reason of "deterring general crime in those areas". Trump might also be exploiting either reason for public perception gains, but the ICE purpose seems to carry more vindication.
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