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Magical Realist
Jun 21, 2025 06:58 PM
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So you admit that Israel is bombing and has bombed Gaza's hospitals, only it has done it on purpose. Great! I agree. That's even worse.
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Syne
Jun 21, 2025 10:15 PM
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(Jun 21, 2025 06:58 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: So you admit that Israel is bombing and has bombed Gaza's hospitals, only it has done it on purpose. Great! I agree. That's even worse.
If you could only read worth a damn, you'd know that no one ever denied that Israel has attacked hospitals. You thinking it's some win now is just your retard delayed comprehension finally catching up to you. But again, "on purpose" doesn't mean "indiscriminately."
Meanwhile, Hamas is Killing Civilians Who Seek Food
While the war between Israel and Iran is drawing attention away from Gaza, it’s worth seeing what Hamas is doing: killing civilians who seek food.
The Gaza Humanitarian Foundation (GHF) has been distributing food inside Gaza. Whether one views this as a bold experiment (as I do) or a terrible idea, it does bring food to Gaza and Gazans come out in the thousands to collect it. What is the Hamas response? To kill Gazans who need that food for their families.
Col. Richard Kemp, a retired British officer, told The Jerusalem Post that he visited one food distribution site and found the effort “brilliantly conceived and extremely well executed. They are feeding the people of Gaza until such time as it becomes unnecessary.”
But in incident after incident, people lining up for food have been shot and many others scared away. Hamas’s reasoning is simple: control of food is control of the population for Hamas, a source of power as well as cash (when it sells the food on the black market). If Gazans do not need Hamas to eat, its power is badly diminished.
The Palestinian Authority’s newspaper Al-Hayat Al-Jadida wrote about this on June 19. Its editorial (translated by MEMRI, the Middle East Media Research Institute) stated that “numerous reports out of Gaza say that Hamas is killing many civilians looking for a sack of flour on the pretext that they are collaborating with the American food distribution centers!!.... Hamas has no choice but to set up death squads [to operate] against anyone who opposes its theft and tries to find a sack of flour outside its control and far from its black market... It is not only Israel that is creating this terrible reality; Hamas is complicit in this industry of death, hunting down the hungry with the death squads it calls Al-Sahm, in order to inform anyone who approaches [the distribution centers] that do not belong to Hamas that their only [fate] will be to fall victim to the arrows of the Al-Sahm Unit. This is the bitter reality: Hamas and its Al-Sahm Unit, which hunts down those who seek nothing but a crust of bread."
Proof for this editorial is offered in social media posts that accuse Hamas of precisely such killings. There are other accounts from the GHF itself, which reported that on June 11 that a bus carrying two dozen workers traveling to a distribution center was attacked by Hamas and eight killed. The Long War Journal and FDD have reported on such Hamas strikes, and Hamas itself has made clear threats.
Hamas’s motivation is equally clear: power and control. In those efforts to stop the food distribution, it has the support of various United Nations agencies including UNRWA. This will be no surprise in view of years of collaboration between UNRWA and Hamas, but it is no less shameful for that. Hamas reacts to accusations against it by its own accusations that such shootings are all the work of Israel. But Israel is supporting the GHF and trying to undermine Hamas’s control of food distribution. It has no motive for shooting Gazans lined up at GHF sites, and no explanation is ever offered for why it might be doing so. In fact, Hamas is also killing Gazans lining up at UN sites to get food, as MSNBC* reported after first falsely stating on June 20 that the killings were at a GHF site.
* MSNBC Issues On-Air Correction: Palestinians Were Killed Waiting for UN Aid, not GHF
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Syne
Jun 22, 2025 01:41 AM
Watch MR now completely ignore this thread, because my last post is far too much cognitive dissonance with his burgeoning antisemitism.
If the Palestinian Authority’s newspaper (no friend to Israel) admits that "Hamas is killing many civilians looking for a sack of flour" and blaming it on Israel, that completely refutes MR's claim that it's all Israel's fault (typical antisemitism).
MR doesn't have the intellectual honesty (much less the ethics) to admit to or even engage with these facts.
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Magical Realist
Jun 22, 2025 01:51 AM
You just admitted Israel has bombed Gazan hospitals. What else is there to argue? Changing the subject to Hamas is just kneejerk "whataboutism" Like 2 wrongs make a right.
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Jun 22, 2025 01:53 AM
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https://www.msn.com/en-in/news/world/wit...r-AA1FUHXS
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/swX1eY5RYaM
(Jun 22, 2025 01:51 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: You just admitted Israel has bombed Gazan hospitals. What else is there to argue? Changing the subject to Hamas is just kneejerk "whataboutism" Like 2 wrongs make a right.
You just ignored all the valid reasons to:
(Jun 20, 2025 11:41 PM)Syne Wrote: All valid military targets, from a host of evidence, intelligence, and reported on by a wide variety of sources:
But evidence examined by The New York Times suggests Hamas used the hospital for cover, stored weapons inside it and maintained a hardened tunnel beneath the complex that was supplied with water, power and air-conditioning.
- https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024...hamas.html
The evidence is overwhelming and incriminating. Hamas systematically exploited Al-Shifa Hospital and other medical centers in Gaza for command and control centers, terror tunnels, weapons storage, hiding kidnapped hostages, and murdering kidnapped hostages.
The newly released videos are disturbing, but they are not surprising. For nearly fifteen years, Israeli and American officials have publicly acknowledged the existence of Hamas’ headquarters under Al-Shifa Hospital, and the international media has reported on the active presence of Hamas in hospitals, including during rounds of armed conflict.
However, there is one network that has constantly denied Hamas’ exploitation of Al-Shifa and other hospitals in Gaza — the influential community of ostensible human rights NGOs, humanitarian aid organizations, and their UN agency partners. Many of these groups have been actively complicit in covering up the diversion of aid by Hamas. Some of them employ Hamas and other terror operatives. At the same time, these groups have disseminated disinformation regarding Israeli operations and have likely lied to government donors in auditing and oversight processes. As documented below, the NGO strategy of denial and extensive obfuscation has continued and increased during the current Gaza conflict, despite the evidence.
- https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/ngos-era...hospitals/
A member of Hamas admitted that the terrorist group uses a hospital as a command center, according to new footage released by Israel on December 19. The footage shows an Israeli interrogation of Hamas Lieutenant Colonel Ahmad Kahalot, who serves as manager of the Kamal Adwan Hospital in northern Gaza, in which he admits that the facility was under the control of Hamas. Kahalot also says that at least one Israeli hostage seized by Hamas on October 7 was brought to the hospital.
The Hamas-run Gaza health ministry reported on December 12 that Israeli troops entered the Kamal Adwan Hospital. In the subsequent days, Israeli soldiers arrested more than 70 Hamas operatives, including Kahalot. Following the arrests, the Israel Defense Forces (IDF) and Shin Bet security agency released a joint statement indicating that some of the individuals captured at the hospital had participated in the October 7 massacre in southern Israel.
- https://www.fdd.org/analysis/2023/12/20/...nd-center/
U.S. spy agencies assess that Islamist group Hamas and another Palestinian group fighting Israel used Gaza's Al Shifa Hospital to command forces and hold some hostages but largely evacuated the complex days before Israeli troops entered it, a U.S. official said on Tuesday, citing declassified U.S. intelligence.
The complex was used by both Hamas and Palestinian Islamic Jihad to command forces fighting against Israel, the U.S. official said, speaking on condition of anonymity.
- https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-eas...024-01-03/
You just made up some antisemitic bullshit about "indiscriminate bombing" to evade the facts. You're such a worthless piece of shit.
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