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Syne
Jun 20, 2025 12:05 AM
LEARN TO READ, dipshit.
I've NEVER said that being against Israel's treatment of Gaza is antisemitism. I have said that believing/spreading Hamas/leftist propaganda and exaggeration is antisemitism.
But no one has provided an alternative that protects Israel from the decades-old openly genocidal intent and continuous threat of terrorism from Palestinians. Antisemites only seem to suggest that Israel deserves all the threats they live under, at the hands of openly genocidal antisemites.
But no, being an Jew does not mean you can't be antisemitic. If internalized racism exists for other races/ethnicities, it would be special pleading to claim it doesn't for Jews.
When a Jewish person expresses anti-Jewish ideas, is that antisemitism? It might sound odd, but yes. From the Middle Ages until the present day, there are plenty of examples of Jewish people perpetuating antisemitism, despite being Jews themselves. Sometimes it is what scholars call “internalized racism,” which is something that many minorities, including Jews, have experienced. Other times, Jews attempt to separate themselves from other Jews as a defense mechanism. But whatever the reason behind it, antisemitism from Jewish people is no more acceptable than antisemitism from non-Jewish people. - https://unpacked.education/video/can-jew...tisemitic/
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Magical Realist
Jun 20, 2025 01:50 AM
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Quote:I've NEVER said that being against Israel's treatment of Gaza is antisemitism
I'm pretty sure you did, not only calling me antisemitic for being against the genocide by starvation that Israel is imposing on Gaza but also dismissing all my quoted news sources as antisemitic for simply reporting on the situation in Gaza as well. And now you're even stupidly accusing the Jewish source I quoted of being antisemitic for nothing more than their position on Gaza:
Quote:But no, being an Jew does not mean you can't be antisemitic.
In other words you have no justification whatsoever for what Israel is doing to Gaza and have to resort to ad homs that make absolutely no sense. You're a complete dolt..
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Syne
Jun 20, 2025 03:27 AM
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(Jun 20, 2025 01:50 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:I've NEVER said that being against Israel's treatment of Gaza is antisemitism
I'm pretty sure you did, not only calling me antisemitic for being against the genocide by starvation that Israel is imposing on Gaza but also dismissing all my quoted news sources as antisemitic for simply reporting on the situation in Gaza as well. And now you're even stupidly accusing the Jewish source I quoted of being antisemitic for nothing more than their position on Gaza: Again, if only you could read, I didn't say you were antisemitic for simply criticizing Israel's handling of Gaza. I literally just said it was because you're pushing the genocide/starvation propaganda. I get it. You're endlessly gullible, so you believe everything (that fits your political/paranormal bent) at face value.
So you're saying there is no such thing as "internalized racism?"
Quote:Quote:But no, being an Jew does not mean you can't be antisemitic.
In other words you have no justification whatsoever for what Israel is doing to Gaza and have to resort to ad homs that make absolutely no sense. You're a complete dolt..
Israel is trying to free 53 remaining hostages that have been held since Oct 2023 (being starved and treated as slaves) and end Hamas' ability to ever repeat such an attack on innocent civilians, including children, again. Seems pretty justified. When a population has proven to sympathize with and harbor/abet terrorists and even hold hostages in their homes, you obviously cannot eradicate that threat without some pressure on the population.
Again, unless anyone has a better plan. But moron leftists would just allow Hamas to regroup, rearm, and continue attacking Israeli civilians. And allowing them to in exchange for hostages sets a horrid precedent that only incentivizes further hostage-taking. Soft-on-crime and soft-in-the-head leftists seem completely naive to that reality. When you abet openly genocidal antisemites, that makes you an antisemite.
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Magical Realist
Jun 20, 2025 03:34 AM
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Quote:When you abet openly genocidal antisemites, that makes you an antisemite.
And when you support the genocidal actions of a nation against 2 million people, that makes you guilty of genocide too. Own your hatred...
Quote:Israel is trying to free 53 remaining hostages that have been held since Oct 2023
Let's compare that to Palestinians being held by Israelis:
"There are currently nearly 10,000 Palestinians held in Israeli jails in Israel and the occupied territory, according to prisoners’ rights group Addameer. To Palestinians, they are political prisoners who must be freed.
Of those in detention:
3,498 are held without charge or trial
400 are children
27 are women
299 are serving life sentences
Administrative detainees, including women and children, can be held by the military for renewable six-month periods based on “secret evidence” that neither the detainee nor their lawyer is allowed to see.
Israel is the only country in the world that tries children in military courts, often denying them their basic rights.
According to Defense for Children Palestine, about 500 to 700 Palestinian children are detained and prosecuted in the Israeli military court system each year – some as young as 12.
The most common charge is throwing stones, a crime punishable under military law by up to 20 years in prison.
Currently, 400 Palestinian children remain in Israeli prisons, most are in pre-trial detention and have not been convicted of any offence"
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/17...lestinians
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Syne
Jun 20, 2025 04:34 AM
(Jun 20, 2025 03:34 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:When you abet openly genocidal antisemites, that makes you an antisemite.
And when you support the genocidal actions of a nation against 2 million people, that makes you guilty of genocide too. Own your hatred...
Quote:Israel is trying to free 53 remaining hostages that have been held since Oct 2023
Let's compare that to Palestinians being held by Israelis:
"There are currently nearly 10,000 Palestinians held in Israeli jails in Israel and the occupied territory, according to prisoners’ rights group Addameer. To Palestinians, they are political prisoners who must be freed.
...
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/4/17...lestinians
Addameer is a Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) “affiliate.” The PFLP is a terrorist organization designated as such by the US, EU, Canada, and Israel.
- https://ngo-monitor.org/ngos/addameer/
And as already mentioned, Al Jazeera " receives public funding from the Qatar government."
In June 2017, Saudi Arabia, the UAE, Bahrain, Egypt and Yemen broke diplomatic ties with Qatar, accusing Qatar of supporting terrorism. The crisis escalated a dispute over Qatar's support of the Muslim Brotherhood, which is considered a terrorist organization by some Arab nations.
...
Qatar has been criticized for allowing terror financiers to operate within its borders, with accusations originating from intelligence reports, government officials, and journalists. In 2014, U.S. officials, including David S. Cohen, claimed that Qatar had failed to take action against blacklisted individuals living freely in the country. Despite introducing anti-terrorism laws in 2004 and updating them in subsequent years, Qatar faced allegations of supporting groups like Hamas, which it denied, stating its goal was to facilitate constructive engagement with the Palestinian Authority. These concerns contributed to the Qatar diplomatic crisis from 2017 to 2021. - wiki
When you defend evil you always end up citing evil and defending even more evil. I know you're a gullible moron, but how many times can I show you that the people you are citing/believing are evil before I just assume you are willfully evil? @_@
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Magical Realist
Jun 20, 2025 04:49 AM
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Quote:When you defend evil you always end up citing evil and defending even more evil. I know you're a gullible moron, but how many times can I show you that the people you are citing/believing are evil before I just assume you are willfully evil?
Ooo...evil people everywhere! News agencies. Charities. Wikipedia. WHO. The UN. And of course me. You have an almost cult mentality, viewing yourself as right and righteous while everyone else in the world is wicked. Oh the extremes one will go to justify genocide. The consensus is the Al Jazeera is a reliable news service. They hold no allegiance to any terrorist organization and report the news as it happens. I will continue to rely on their exemplary reporting for information about the Gaza situation. How does it feel to support a country that imprisons thousands of Palestinians including children based on no charges or a trial? Kinda blows your 53 hostages excuse out of the water. 9_9
"Because Al Jazeera is well funded and doesn’t need to make a profit, it can provide extensive coverage where others have failed. In the 2008–2009 Gaza war, for example, no station anywhere in the world could match Al Jazeera’s coverage, with multiple reporters in Gaza itself, in Israel, in the West Bank, and in Egypt. In fact, no other television station had live coverage from Gaza or Israel during the war—an advantage that many stations, including American, tried to overcome in the November 2012 Gaza fighting by sending reporters to Gaza. And even though Al Jazeera is often accused of bias or of an ideological bent, it has been bold in ensuring presentation of multiple views, including presenting Israeli views dating back to the 1990s, when few other Arab stations dared do so, as well as airing Bin Laden tapes, Iranian views, and hosting or covering speeches and news conferences of American officials—including then-secretary of defense Donald Rumsfeld, American military commanders and spokesmen, and White House and State Department officials—during the Iraq war. So while Al Jazeera officials understood and catered to their audience, they also made sure they always aired views that challenged, sometimes even offended their audience..."--- https://www.brookings.edu/articles/al-ja...s-network/
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Syne
Jun 20, 2025 06:18 AM
Funded by Qatar. You think that funding doesn't come with any strings at all? Terror-supporting Qatar is just generous?
You're a special little mooncalf, aren't you?
Yes, the lying left as spent decades taking over mainstream media and as much government and NGOs as they could manage. It's a fact that dimwit leftists often deny.
We imprison children in the US too. It's called juvenile detention. Obama even imprisoned illegal alien children in cages and under poor conditions.
As I've repeatedly told you, Palestinians support the terrorism of Hamas and train kindergartners to be terrorists. You're the one turning a blind eye to the evil here.
https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/1sDZlo_hllI
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Magical Realist
Jun 20, 2025 06:41 AM
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LOL Kids love emulating heroes. And the only heroes they have are military soldiers. For them it's a matter of survival, especially when you are daily bombarded and attacked by a nation that wants to stamp your people out of existence. Meanwhile Israel continues to kill, maim, and imprison hundreds of Palestinian children every year without any charges. You can't blame them for fighting back.
"From 2008 until 6 October 2023, 1,434 Palestinian children were reportedly killed, with an additional 32,175 sustaining injuries, primarily at the hands of Israeli occupation forces. Of these, 1,025 children were killed in Gaza alone, since the unlawful blockade began in 2007. During the same timeframe, 25 Israeli children were killed, mostly by Palestinian assailants, and 524 were injured. Between 2019 and 2022, 1,679 Palestinian children and 15 Israeli children sustained lasting physical injuries, leaving many permanently disabled. An average of 500-700 Palestinian children are reported to be detained by Israeli occupation forces each year, with an estimated 13,000 mostly arbitrarily detained, interrogated, tried in military courts and imprisoned since 2000.
“Israel’s framing of Palestinian children as ‘human shields’ or ‘terrorists’ to justify the violence against them and their parents is profoundly dehumanising,” the expert said."--- https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/...n-children
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/is...ildren-why
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Syne
Jun 20, 2025 04:04 PM
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I think I'll quote you... before you delete it.
(Jun 20, 2025 06:41 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: LOL Kids love emulating heroes. And the only heroes they have are military soldiers. For them it's a matter of survival, especially when you are daily bombarded and attacked by a nation that wants to stamp your people out of existence. Meanwhile Israel continues to kill, maim, and imprison hundreds of Palestinian children every year without any charges. You can't blame them for fighting back.
"From 2008 until 6 October 2023, 1,434 Palestinian children were reportedly killed, with an additional 32,175 sustaining injuries, primarily at the hands of Israeli occupation forces. Of these, 1,025 children were killed in Gaza alone, since the unlawful blockade began in 2007. During the same timeframe, 25 Israeli children were killed, mostly by Palestinian assailants, and 524 were injured. Between 2019 and 2022, 1,679 Palestinian children and 15 Israeli children sustained lasting physical injuries, leaving many permanently disabled. An average of 500-700 Palestinian children are reported to be detained by Israeli occupation forces each year, with an estimated 13,000 mostly arbitrarily detained, interrogated, tried in military courts and imprisoned since 2000.
“Israel’s framing of Palestinian children as ‘human shields’ or ‘terrorists’ to justify the violence against them and their parents is profoundly dehumanising,” the expert said."--- https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/...n-children
https://www.middleeasteye.net/opinion/is...ildren-why
If you think brainwashing kindergartners to be terrorists is "emulating heroes," you are an evil piece of garbage.
In kindergarten, children only know what they're told by adults. They have no experience with which to make a choice about who to "emulate."
The UN Human Rights Council (HRC), which replaced the Commission on Human Rights in March 2006, has continued its predecessor's extreme focus on and biased treatment of issues relating to Israel, particularly in comparison with its mild action on pressing international human rights crises. The permanent agenda of the HRC includes a specific item targeting Israel - Agenda Item #7 – which is titled: "Human rights situation in Palestine and other occupied Arab territories: Human rights violations and implications of the Israeli occupation of Palestine and other occupied Arab territories and the Right to self-determination of the Palestinian people. Israel is the only country to appear on the HRC's permanent agenda, while other countries such as Iran and Sudan, notorious for their human rights abuses, are included as part of the general debate. - https://www.adl.org/resources/background...i-semitism
According to American lawyer and policy analyst Ilan Berman and Emirati columnist Sultan Sooud Al-Qassemi, MEE [Middle East Eye] is backed by Qatar. The governments of Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates, Egypt, and Bahrain have accused MEE of pro–Muslim Brotherhood bias and of receiving Qatari funding. During the Qatar diplomatic crisis with the Arab League, among the demands made to Qatar were that it halts its funding of Al Jazeera and of MEE and that both organisations be shut down. - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_Eye
When you continue to cite antisemites and call training kindergartners to be terrorists "emulating heroes," it become very clear that you are an antisemite. So much so that you excuse weaponizing children. You're such a piece of shit.
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confused2
Jun 20, 2025 05:52 PM
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Syne Wrote:..training kindergartners to be terrorists "emulating heroes," You honestly think native American children would had any 'heroes' other than those opposing the systematic extinction of American Indians by white Europeans? People don't see the reality -> you<- think they ought to see - very often they just see what is in front of them.
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