DIY fail: pro-Palestinian activists from the West encounter harsh reality in Egypt

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Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Accusation of genocide is a blatant antisemitic trope, which we all know you got from antisemitic Qatari Al Jazeera.

What else do we call the systematic and planned effort to starve 2 million people? Maybe a Holocaust? Would Israel comprehend that word?

Quote:Iran is the one launching hundreds of missiles at civilian population centers, while Israel has always attacked military targets... including in Gaza.

What does that have to do with starving 2 million Palestinians in Gaza? How do they justify that?

Quote:And how many of those soliciting your donations are part of the GHF?

Is GHF one charity or "dozens of charities"? Simple math here.
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#12
Syne Offline
You're being lied to. The only information about people starving inf Gaza is coming from Hamas or anti-Israel sources.
Israel doesn't target civilians. Hamas uses civilians as human shields and steals humanitarian aid from them... and Iran targets civilians directly.

The GHF is not a charity, moron. Let's see if you can figure out why I'd ask if charities soliciting you are part of GHF.
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#13
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:You're being lied to. The only information about people starving inf Gaza is coming from Hamas or anti-Israel sources.

Ahh..The last minute denial of the starvation of Gaza by Israel's blockade. Just like all Holocaust deniers. "It's all a big hoax."

Meanwhile:

AI Overview:

Humanitarian Crisis: The entire population of Gaza faces food shortages, with many people experiencing catastrophic levels of hunger, acute malnutrition, illness, and death. This is described as one of the world's worst hunger crises unfolding in real time.

Aid Blockade: Israel has restricted the entry of food, medicine, and other humanitarian aid into Gaza, which aid agencies and international organizations argue is contributing to the starvation crisis. While Israel states the restrictions are necessary to prevent Hamas from diverting aid, evidence suggests minimal aid has been lost to theft, and organized looting is more likely carried out by armed gangs, sometimes encouraged by the Israeli army.

Impact on Children: Children are particularly vulnerable, with thousands admitted to health facilities for acute malnutrition. Without adequate food, clean water, and healthcare, an entire generation could suffer permanent physical and cognitive development problems.

Deteriorating Conditions: The situation continues to worsen, with dwindling food supplies, soaring food prices, and the collapse of essential services like bakeries and community kitchens.

International Response: Organizations like the UN and Oxfam are calling for the lifting of the blockade and unimpeded humanitarian access to Gaza. They are advocating for a permanent ceasefire, the release of hostages, and the cessation of arms transfers to Israel. The UN has described the amount of aid allowed into Gaza as a "teaspoon" compared to the needs of the population.

Controversy over Aid Distribution: There is a conflict regarding proposed aid distribution mechanisms. The UN and aid groups reject a new system favored by Israel and the US, arguing it is insufficient to meet needs and could be used to control the population. The UN insists that a proper and adequate dietary diversity is needed, not just calories. They note that even with the proposed new system, the caloric intake would be inadequate, and essential resources like clean water and healthcare would still be lacking."

Quote:The GHF is not a charity, moron

So why did you ask me if the dozens of charities I mentioned are GHF? Are you an idiot? You seem to be.
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#14
Syne Offline
Moron, AI only repeats the mainstream narrative... where many of those same outlets have criticized the humanitarian aid now reaching Gaza, simply because Trump is supporting it... including the UN. The UN and Oxfam have a history of antisemitism.
There's videos of many semi-truck loads of aid being stolen by Hamas... and Hamas attacked Biden's Gaza pier, built to help deliver aid. Anyone telling you otherwise is gaslighting you.
Hamas and their civilian supporters are well-known to use children as human shields and even train kindergartners to be terrorists. Hamas has repeatedly put civilians in harms way just to gain sympathy. Here, they are likely starving children for the same reason. You don't see many, if any, adults starving in Gaza.


I asked you about GHF to see if you even knew what it was (your lazy ass couldn't even be bothered to ask AI about that) and to see if all those charities soliciting your donations did have a chance to deliver aid.... or just virtue-signaling. Since you obviously don't know, only charities working with GHF have a chance to actually deliver aid.
Everything else is useless virtue-signaling.
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#15
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:Moron, AI only repeats the mainstream narrative... where many of those same outlets have criticized the humanitarian aid now reaching Gaza, simply because Trump is supporting it... including the UN. The UN and Oxfam have a history of antisemitism.

LOL So do you actually believe mainstream news outlets are all making up the starvation of 2 million people in Gaza by Israel's blockade? That it's all a big lie just to make Israel look bad. You're an idiot.

Meanwhile:


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#16
Syne Offline
(Jun 18, 2025 10:37 PM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:Moron, AI only repeats the mainstream narrative... where many of those same outlets have criticized the humanitarian aid now reaching Gaza, simply because Trump is supporting it... including the UN. The UN and Oxfam have a history of antisemitism.

LOL So do you actually believe mainstream news outlets are all making up the starvation of 2 million people in Gaza by Israel's blockade? That it's all a big lie just to make Israel look bad. You're an idiot.
You're a moron. The mainstream media has repeatedly accepted casualty figures from Hamas and sources beholden to Hamas to safely operate in Gaza.

Distorting the numbers: How the media have failed in reporting Gaza casualties
The research highlights a “big crisis in journalism,” emphasizing ethical failings in mainstream media, particularly in reporting military conflicts.



New Report Shreds the Hamas-Provided Casualty Numbers That Mainstream Media Won’t Question
A new report by the Henry Jackson Society (HJS) reveals what has been obvious all along: The death toll provided by the Hamas-run Ministry of Health (MoH) in Gaza does not add up.


Gaza Health Ministry casualty numbers ‘deliberately fabricated,’ new analysis reveals
The figures' wide acceptance constitutes a "major strategic victory" for Hamas, according to the Australian authors of the study.


Lots of establishment antisemites eager to accept those figures without any scrutiny. No wonder you're taken in by them.

Quote:Meanwhile:
That's under investigation and the actual circumstances and casualties are not yet known. Many reports are still citing the Palestinian Health Ministry... controlled by Hamas.
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#17
Magical Realist Offline
Quote:The mainstream media has repeatedly accepted casualty figures from Hamas and sources beholden to Hamas to safely operate in Gaza.

What casualty figures? We're talking about Israel's blockade causing the starvation of 2 million in Gaza. Are you still claiming that's a hoax? On what basis?
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#18
Syne Offline
(Jun 19, 2025 01:28 AM)Magical Realist Wrote:
Quote:The mainstream media has repeatedly accepted casualty figures from Hamas and sources beholden to Hamas to safely operate in Gaza.

What casualty figures? We're talking about Israel's blockade causing the starvation of 2 million in Gaza. Are you still claiming that's a hoax? On what basis?

All information coming from Hamas propaganda is suspect.

Footage challenges repeated claims of starvation in Gaza as war ramps up
World Food Program warns of starvation in Gaza as aid trucks stalled at border, though reports point to broader food access despite conflicting claims


New Gaza famine report reveals grim March predictions were vastly exaggerated
Study appears to emphasize outlying malnutrition results, does not disclose mortality data, leading some experts to question the basis of its new projections


"We do not need to wait for a declaration of famine in Gaza... Famine has not yet been declared..." - WHO

New study: There was no famine in Gaza… according to famine review groups’ own data
UK Lawyers for Israel says use of inaccurate data, inconsistent methodology, potential bias led to false assertions that were utilized by ICC when charging Netanyahu with war crimes


UN forced to correct claim 14,000 Gazan children could die in 48 hours after it was debunked
The figure came from an independent report into instances of starvation in the Strip, but was projected over a whole year rather than two days
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#19
Magical Realist Offline
Here's the Wiki article on it:

"On 3 January 2024, Arif Husain, the chief economist at the WFP, stated 80 percent of all people in the world experiencing famine or catastrophic hunger were in the Gaza Strip, stating, "In my life, I’ve never seen anything like this in terms of severity".[113] Food prices rose in Gaza as food stocks were "running low".[114]

The United Nations humanitarian chief Martin Griffiths stated on 5 January 2024, "People are facing the highest levels of food insecurity ever recorded."[115] Alex de Waal, an expert on humanitarian crises and international law, stated, "The rigor, scale and speed of the destruction of the structures necessary for survival, and enforcement of the siege, surpasses any other case of man-made famine in the last 75 years."[116] António Guterres stated, "The long shadow of starvation is stalking the people of Gaza".[117]

On 16 January 2024, UNOCHA reported 378,000 people in Gaza were in IPC Phase 5, or catastrophic levels of hunger.[118][119] It reported all 2.2 million people in the Gaza Strip were facing acute food insecurity – the highest proportion of a population experiencing starvation in recorded history.[120] The Famine Review Committee (FRC) which compiled the Gaza data on famine in terms of the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) on 1 December 2023, forecast that the total population will be at Phase 3 by 7 February and that 25% or 500,000 Gazans will reach Phase 5.[96]

On 21 January 2024, a journalist in the Gaza Strip reported that people were making flour using animal food.[121] On 21 January 2024, the UN reported there were only fifteen bakeries still in operation across the entirety of the Gaza Strip.[122] By 30 January 2024, CNN reported that Palestinians were eating grass to stay alive.[123] On 31 January, the World Health Organization's emergencies director stated, "This is a population that is starving to death."[124]

February–April 2024
On 12 February, the Food and Agriculture Organization stated there were "unprecedented levels of acute food insecurity, hunger, and near-famine-like conditions in Gaza."[125] Israel attacked fishermen in Deir el-Balah attempting to catch fish to eat.[126] On 27 February 2024, Carl Skau, the deputy executive director of the WFP, told the United Nations Security Council that more than 500,000 people were at risk of imminent famine in Gaza.[127]

On 17 February 2024, ActionAid stated that "every single person in the territory" was facing extreme levels of hunger, stating that people had even run out of animal feed to eat.[128] By March, bird feed in northern Gaza had run out and people ate livestock feed.[129] On 3 March, the Gaza government media office stated, "the famine is still deepening".[130] In March 2024, experts, such as the United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Right to Food, warned that Gaza might already be experiencing famine; while Jeremy Konyndyk, the president of Refugees International, stated that "large-scale famine mortality" would soon begin.[131] On 7 March, UNOCHA stated that the annual rate of food inflation was 118 percent in January 2024, while the consumer price index for food rose nearly 105 percent.[132] March Epidemiological forecasts projected future deaths in Gaza from all causes, including epidemics, as ranging from 48,210 to 193,180 by August 2024.[133]

On 13 March 2024, Israeli spokesperson Daniel Hagari said they were "trying to flood the area" with aid and that they were "learning and improving and doing different changes."[134] In late March, António Guterres stated that it was time to "truly flood Gaza with lifesaving aid" and that the starvation was a "moral outrage"[135] Israeli Ministry of Strategic Affairs Ron Dermer said that reports of an imminent famine were "a complete lie and fabrication" and "a libel against Israel."[136] In April, Yoav Gallant announced that Israel would create a new crossing on its border and that "we plan to flood Gaza with aid".[137] Philippe Lazzarini stated on 30 April that “there is more food available on the market”, but “no cash circulating” in northern Gaza, making the food inaccessible. He further acknowledged the increase in supplies entering Gaza in April, but cautioned that it was "still far from enough to reverse the negative trend".[138]

In early April 2024, the Red Cross said that 2.2 million people in Gaza were considered to be experiencing food insecurity at the emergency level.[139]

In mid-April 2025, 12 CEOs of humanitarian organizations signed a statement that aid systems were in danger of collapsing.[140]

On 30 April 2024, when rendering its verdict in the Nicaragua v. Germany genocide case, the International Court of Justice said that it remained concerned about the situation in Gaza, "In particular, in view of the prolonged and widespread deprivation of food and other basic necessities to which they have been subjected".[141] In its March 2024 interim ruling, the ICJ stated, "The court observes that Palestinians in Gaza are no longer facing only a risk of famine (...) but that famine is setting in."[142]

May–July 2024
In May 2024, the WFP reported, "The threat of famine in Gaza never loomed larger".[143] The United Nations humanitarian chief stated famine in Gaza was an "immediate, clear and present danger" as food ran out and humanitarian operations were stuck.[144] The Gaza media office said 98 percent of bakeries were closed.[145] In June 2024, the WFP and the Food and Agriculture Organization stated in a joint statement that more than 1 million people could face severe starvation within a month.[146] The same month, the World Health Organization stated only two nutrition stabilisation centers remained operational in the Gaza Strip.[147]

In May 2024, the FRC revised the IPC analysis concluding: "The FRC does not find the FEWS NET analysis plausible given the uncertainty and lack of convergence of the supporting evidence employed in the analysis. Therefore, the FRC is unable to make a determination as to whether or not famine thresholds have been passed during April". Specifically for food security analysis the revised report stated: "regarding estimates of food consumption, the FRC has some concerns with the methods by which the situation with regard to food availability in northern Gaza was calculated, which, combined with an incomplete understanding of food access makes the FEWS NET conclusions tenuous"; and regarding nutrition and mortality analysis: "The FRC is unable to make a determination as to whether or not Famine thresholds for acute malnutrition have been passed during April. Indeed, in the current circumstances, given the increase in food supply, a reduction in acute malnutrition might also be considered possible".[148]

On May 16 while in Abu Dhabi, UAE, during the last day of his Gulf tour, President Donald Trump said, “We’re looking at Gaza. And we’re going to get that taken care of. A lot of people are starving.”[149][150]


Displaced Palestinians in Deir el-Balah line up to receive food provided by charitable organizations.
In late June, a leaked UN document said that 95% of the population of Gaza were in food insecurity, while almost 500,000 were facing near-famine hunger.[151] The report found famine remained a possibility throughout the entirety of the Gaza Strip, and that the risk was "as high" as at any other time during the conflict.[152][153] The UN stated one in five households went entire days without eating.[154]

On 9 July 2024, a group of UN experts released a statement that Israel's "targeted starvation campaign" had caused the death of children in Gaza and that famine had spread from the North to the rest of Gaza. The statement cited the deaths of 3 children who had recently died of malnutrition in Gaza, saying: "When the first child dies from malnutrition and dehydration, it becomes irrefutable that famine has taken hold."[11][12][13][14] In response, the Israeli mission to the UN in Geneva accused the UN of "supporting Hamas propaganda". Additionally the mission stated that Israel had "continuously scaled up its coordination and assistance in the delivery of humanitarian aid" and that Hamas militants “intentionally steal and hide aid from civilians."[15] WHO stated people were trapped in a "vicious cycle" as malnutrition was worsening people's vulnerability to diseases.[155]

October 2024–December 2024
In October 2024, individuals familiar with aid flow into the Gaza Strip stated that the amount of humanitarian aid entering the Strip was at its lowest levels in seven months.[156] The WFP stated on 11 October 2024 that no food had entered the northern Gaza Strip that entire month, and that one million people faced starvation.[20] The human rights organizations Gisha, B'Tselem, Physicians for Human Rights and Yesh Din warned this was one of the "alarming signs" that Israel was implementing the General's Plan to starve northern Gaza.[157] The United Nations warned on 17 October that it would run out of food for people in northern Gaza in just a week and a half.[158] The I.P.C. released an updated report, finding nearly all people in Gaza faced high levels of acute food insecurity (Phase 3), and 133,000 people faced catastrophic lack of food (Phase 5).[159] By the end of the month, humanitarian aid to the Gaza Strip reached its lowest levels since the conflict began.[160]

In December 2024, OCHA claimed that only 2,205 aid trucks had entered Gaza, while Israel said 5,000 entered. The pre-war amount was about 15,000 a month. OCHA claimed that 91 percent of Gaza's population faced "high levels of acute food insecurity". Israel considered that month whether to limit more humanitarian aid after Donald Trump's election.[161]

March 2025–present
On 2 March 2025, Israel cut off all aid to the Gaza Strip.The blockade caused food prices to increase by up to 1,400%. By the end of the month, all bakeries supported by the WFP had run out of flour and cooking oil.[162]

On 25 April 2025, the WFP announced that it had delivered its last remaining supplies to kitchens preparing hot meals in Gaza; the meals were expected to be gone within days. The kitchens had been the only consistent source of food assistance in the last few weeks, although they reached only half of the population with one quarter of their daily food requirements. [163]

On 28 April 2025, the Gaza Media Office announced that there were over 65,000 cases of acute malnutrion in children in the Gaza Strip.[164] UNRWA corroborated these claims, saying there were 66,000 children suffering from severe malnutrition in May 2025.[165]

According to a United Nations report from June 2025, 2,700 children under the age of five in Gaza were suffering from acute malnutrition, representing a threefold increase compared to three months earlier."---- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaza_Strip_famine
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Syne Offline
(Jun 19, 2025 02:49 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: LOL All from Israeli newspapers. That's certainly a reliable source on this issue..
Genetic fallacy? @_@

Like I said, the mainstream media has proven willing to push Hamas lies... and that is where they are getting their information... directly from Hamas and from aid groups pandering to Hamas for their own safety within Gaza.

The Gaza Famine Myth
How lazy journalism, bad data, and skewed statistics fueled accusations of war crimes against Israel.


Apparently you also missed that the WHO and IPC have not declared a famine in Gaza.


Again, quote spamming a wiki article edited by antisemites does nothing.
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