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Magical Realist
Mar 5, 2025 09:10 PM
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Amazing capture of the table tipping phenomena going into overdrive. The table totally lifts itself high into the air with everyone's hands still on the top of the table. Evidence perhaps of group telekinesis..
"This video was taken by myself (my voice on it) with my iPhone in the summer of 2016. This group sat every Thursday evening for over 7 years before we got this complete levitation to happen. It could happen even outdoors in full daylight! But it took a minimum of 4 from the original group to accomplish this (there were 7 of us "regulars"). It took a lot of patience and dedication. Unfortunately, life happens and after another year the group went separate ways. We did get a group of mediums together this past summer for an evening where we were able to get the table to rise in a similar fashion in the light."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLxu9IiumQ
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C C
Mar 5, 2025 10:44 PM
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Certainly not the same method as used in the video below, but one woman on the left (that's farther away) never seems to have her hands on the top. She and the hands of the women on the other side who have their fingers or palms pressing inconsistently against the sides of the table would have to be the weight bearers, since the others are keeping their palms pretty much on top (albeit the thumbs of those may occasionally be pressing against the table sides).
Despite the thud, the table has a plastic, very lightweight look to it (they wouldn't want anything heavy landing on the feet of the most elderly women).
If it did take seven years to accomplish, as the narrator describes in the comment section, then it surely couldn't even be planned (a legit trick). After repeated attempts over that stretch of time, eventually the odds would favor a few of the women happening to be aimlessly or subconsciously coordinated enough with their hands for the table to stay up for a bit. That's the route a doubter would have to take if what was stated is the case, anyway.
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Mar 5, 2025 11:13 PM
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At no point in the clip can I detect any gripping/grabbing of the edge of the table by any of the hands, an action that not only would be required to lift the table but to be done so by hands on opposite sides of the table. After the first few seconds we see that even the lady on the left has both hands on top while everyone else's are too. Pretty solid confirmation of a phenomenon reported as genuine from as early as the 1850's. It's hard to imagine it persisting so long were it the result of some sort of fakery or unconscious "grabbing" and lifting. Interestingly, the phenomenon seems to kick in after some deliberate force is applied to the table. It's called "priming the pump" in pk research. Hence too the rubbing and pressing on spoons to get them to bend. Of course skeptics will always insist that's all that's happening. But the movements of the table in all directions opposite to anyone possibly pushing it discredits that explanation.
Demonstration of telekinetic spoon bending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKHLOjqyXs8
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Mar 6, 2025 12:00 AM
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(Mar 5, 2025 11:13 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: At no point in the clip can I detect any gripping/grabbing of the edge of the table by any of the hands, an action that not only would be required to lift the table but to be done so by hands on opposite sides of the table.
Not so much consistently grabbing the sides as applying pressure to opposite sides, akin to how one can hold a penny between two fingers (each of a different hand) by squeezing against the penny's sides.
But the problem with that, is that of the three women who are keeping their hands on the table sides (only one of which fully keeps her fingers off the top 90% of the time), the two that are beside each other (and nearest to the camera) don't always seem to be applying enough pressure. The woman on the far side isn't perfectly opposite those two, either. (Well, maybe she could be with respect to the darker-haired woman wearing the glasses.)
Quote:After the first few seconds we see that even the lady on the left has both hands on top while everyone else's are too.
It's the woman on the left who is farthest from the camera who doesn't. Though, for a brief instant toward the end, she does place the front part of her fingers on top.
Quote:Pretty solid confirmation of a phenomenon reported as genuine from as early as the 1850's. It's hard to imagine it persisting so long were it the result of some sort of fakery or unconscious "grabbing" and lifting. Interestingly, the phenomena seems to kick in after some deliberate force is applied to the table. It's called "priming the pump" in pk research. Hence too the rubbing and pressing on spoons to get them to bend. Of course skeptics will always insist that's all that's happening. But the movements of the table in all directions opposite to anyone possibly pushing it discredits that explanation.
I guess I'd rather see a table floating without anybody's hands on it. But there would probably be some magician who could replicate that, too. So my preference would fall short of an illusionist's standards. Granting that there is any at all that would satisfy them.
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Mar 6, 2025 12:21 AM
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Here's some actual scientific research conducted by Dr Kenneth Batcheldor in 1966 on table tipping. Below his interesting findings including on achieving full levitations, there is a video he made of table tipping in the dark under infrared lighting. Here again we see the hands are only lightly applied to the surface of the table by all the sitters with insufficient force or friction to move the table in the pronounced ways and directions it moves.
https://seancescience.com/outside-seance...atcheldor/
Follow-up: I swear for every Youtube video I saw showing table tipping there were about 6 others of magicians claiming to debunk it. I have the distinct impression there are a lot of bored unemployed magicians out there.
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stryder
Mar 6, 2025 10:35 AM
The trick way that used to be used for table levitation was simply a couple of stury rulers (measuring sticks) strapped to the forearms of the trickster.
It would just be about extending them under the edge of the table. Nowadays theres likely specialised bracings that can be made to do the same job.
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Mar 6, 2025 07:45 PM
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Hence the seemingly intentional act in the video of having all participants wear short sleeves to eliminate the possibility of that trick.
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Zinjanthropos
Mar 6, 2025 10:41 PM
Is there a limit to the weight of object levitated? IOW could we substitute an elephant for a table? If not then why would there be a weight limit?
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Mar 6, 2025 10:57 PM
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Probably the same reason a human can't lift an elephant with their arms. The brain exerts only so much power. We aren't Marvel heroes...at least not yet.
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Zinjanthropos
Mar 7, 2025 12:58 AM
(Mar 6, 2025 10:57 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Probably the same reason a human can't lift an elephant with their arms. The brain exerts only so much power. We aren't Marvel heroes...at least not yet.
Perhaps something lighter like a nice light small puddle of water. No problem then.
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