Election Day celebrations and despair thread (political games)

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stryder Offline
(Nov 7, 2024 01:41 AM)Syne Wrote:
(Nov 6, 2024 12:28 PM)stryder Wrote:
(Nov 6, 2024 08:40 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Great! Four more years of lies, misinformation, stupidity, and embarrassing obnoxious behavior. The world must be laughing at us. This is so humiliating.

I wouldn't think the win was legitimate anyway.  Unfortunately a majority of the tech heads (SysOps) would of fallen for that bro culture nonsense, so the votes probably rigged.  I wouldnt' suggest you storm Capital Hill however.... remember there is legal routes to tie up the loose ends and thats likely what will be in effect now.

Edit:  It can be suggested the election was bought.  The initial "Advertisment" of Bitcoins being supported prior, and the sudden increase in prices afterwards implies those that voted are getting paid.

You're delusional if you think it was "rigged" for Trump, especially since he handily won the popular vote as well, including with historic minority support for a Republican.

On election night, Trump became the first Republican to win Starr County since 1892—breaking a stunning record. The former president won the traditionally blue county, which has a big Hispanic population, with 57 percent of the vote, NewsNation reported. In 2016, Trump lost the county to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who had won Starr County with 79 percent of the vote; in 2020, Joe Biden won the county by a much smaller margin, with 52 percent of the vote.
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Trump is also the first Republican presidential candidate to win Carlton County, Minnesota, since 1928 with a +3 margin over Harris.
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Until Tuesday, Miami-Dade had been a blue bastion in the now solidly red state of Florida, not having backed a Republican candidate in a presidential election since 1988. That changed overnight when Trump emerged as the winner in the county with a significant margin of +11 over his Democratic rival.
- https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-sh...ht-1981106


Trump also won in 40% black Baldwin county, Georgia:

Former President Donald Trump has flipped a Georgia county red for the first time in 20 years after Democrats saw their margin shrink.
- https://www.newsweek.com/trump-flips-geo...on-1981050


Lipstick on a Pig or Polish on a Turd, either way.
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#22
Yazata Online
(Nov 7, 2024 01:41 AM)Syne Wrote:

On election night, Trump became the first Republican to win Starr County since 1892—breaking a stunning record. The former president won the traditionally blue county, which has a big Hispanic population, with 57 percent of the vote, NewsNation reported. In 2016, Trump lost the county to former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, who had won Starr County with 79 percent of the vote; in 2020, Joe Biden won the county by a much smaller margin, with 52 percent of the vote.


Not just Starr county, it's the entire Rio Grande valley, until recently perhaps the bluest part of red Texas. On Tuesday, all of these heavily Hispanic counties unexpectedly went for Trump, some by substantial margins.

Part of it is cultural. Most of these people are socially very conservative traditional Catholics and are put off by things like the democrats' "trans" agenda.

And much of it is immigration. This is ground zero for some 10 million illegal border crossers who have overwhelmed entire towns, collapsing schools and local public services. The democrats just assumed "Hey, they are all Hispanic, aren't they?" and assumed that the locals would love them. But the locals just want the migrants gone. (That's a big reason why the Biden administration started transporting them all over the country.)

Cameron county, where Starbase is located and where Elon's legal residence is and where he votes, also went for Trump after years of being blue.
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#23
confused2 Offline
Reasons why Kamala was likely to lose the election .. policies on..
Economy, Immigration, Border, Transgender, Abortion, Female, Black.. and more
Reason why she was likely to win..
Not Trump.

Despite practically the only thing in her favour was not being Trump - she still got 47% of the votes.
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#25
Zinjanthropos Offline
Not necessarily same circumstances but can it be compared? I’m not claiming anything by this, just a comparison. Case in point…..

This man was arrested and convicted of several crimes including:

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Treason: Arrested in 1961 for treason

Leaving the country without a passport: Arrested in 1962 for leaving the country without a passport

Inciting a strike: Arrested in 1962 for inciting a strike and sentenced to five years in prison

Sabotage: Charged with sabotage in 1964 and convicted along with other leaders

Armed struggle: Charged with armed struggle against the government

Went on to become first democratically elected president of the country that imprisoned him. I think most know who I’m talking about.

My two cents…..Why does it seem people who want their country to change for the better end up in prison?

I’m not an American but I would love to see USA great again. I don’t think woke policies will do it. Hope Trump is serious about MAGA.
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#26
confused2 Offline
(Nov 7, 2024 07:24 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Not necessarily same circumstances but can it be compared? I’m not claiming anything by this, just a comparison. Case in point…..

This man was arrested and convicted of several crimes including:

Quote:
Treason: Arrested in 1961 for treason

Leaving the country without a passport: Arrested in 1962 for leaving the country without a passport

Inciting a strike: Arrested in 1962 for inciting a strike and sentenced to five years in prison

Sabotage: Charged with sabotage in 1964 and convicted along with other leaders

Armed struggle: Charged with armed struggle against the government

Can it be compared?
Inheriting millions
Spur heels .. my God .. what must he have gone through
Men dressed as elks in the Whitehouse .. a really well organised protest, that was.
Couldn't pay off a porn star without using his business account.
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#27
Syne Offline
(Nov 7, 2024 06:56 AM)stryder Wrote: Lipstick on a Pig or Polish on a Turd, either way.

Or just the will of the people.
Oh right, you Brits don't believe in that.
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#28
C C Offline
(Nov 7, 2024 09:58 AM)Yazata Wrote: [...] Part of it is cultural. Most of these people are socially very conservative traditional Catholics and are put off by things like the democrats' "trans" agenda.

And much of it is immigration. This is ground zero for some 10 million illegal border crossers who have overwhelmed entire towns, collapsing schools and local public services. The democrats just assumed "Hey, they are all Hispanic, aren't they?" and assumed that the locals would love them. But the locals just want the migrants gone. (That's a big reason why the Biden administration started transporting them all over the country.)

Cameron county, where Starbase is located and where Elon's legal residence is and where he votes, also went for Trump after years of being blue.

In addition to a record number of Hispanics and Blacks voting for Trump, he also got the Arab vote where it counted. Yeah, the citizen descendants of migrants eventually start feeling secure enough to come out of the closet with either their conservatism or their fundamentalism. What strange bedfellows they and Democrats temporarily made.

In scene unimaginable 4 years ago, Michigan Arabs bask in Trump win they helped clinch
https://www.timesofisrael.com/in-scene-u...trump-win/

EXCERPTS: Some pro-Palestinian activists tried to quickly paint the Michigan results as a repudiation of Harris’s decision to stand by President Joe Biden’s support for Israel throughout the war.

But results across the country demonstrated that Harris’s problems extended much further than the Arab and Muslim communities, with more consequential drops in support identified among Black and Latino voters.

Nonetheless, the several dozen men still at the Lava Java hookah bar after 2 a.m. could not help feeling vindicated, as network analysts began pointing out that Michigan could be the state that officially puts Trump over the 270 electoral vote threshold. (Wisconsin was the one that ultimately put him over the edge.)

Attendees at the election watch party hailed from various areas throughout the Middle East — from the Palestinian territories to Lebanon, Jordan, Iraq, Syria and Yemen. But they were unanimous about their primary reason for backing Trump: They believe he can succeed in ending the ever-expanding Israel-Hamas war where Biden has failed.

They also are socially and fiscally conservative, making the Republican Party a more natural political home in many ways.

“For a long time, the issue of Palestine is what kept us with the Democrats, but after Gaza that is no longer the case,” said Ali, an attendee at the watch party who declined to share his last name.

“Moving a plaque from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem does not equal killing 43,000 people,” said Arab Americans for Trump national chairman Bishara Bahbah, dismissively describing Trump’s embassy move in comparison to the Hamas-run health ministry’s death toll from the Gaza war during Biden’s tenure.

The Biden administration has made repeated efforts to broker a ceasefire and regularly calls out Israel over the high civilian casualty count in Gaza, but progressive critics say the Democratic president’s refusal to lean harder on Jerusalem has allowed the war to drag on for 13 months. Biden officials counter that they can’t coax the parties into a ceasefire if the parties don’t want one, placing particular blame on Hamas for the ongoing impasse.

Trump, for his part, has pledged to swiftly end the Mideast war but has not provided any details regarding how he plans to do so....

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#29
Yazata Online
Even my California (quiet down Syne) flipped 10 additional counties red on Tuesday. With only a few exceptions (the state capital of Sacramento most notably), all of the remaining blue counties in 2024 are on or near the Pacific coast, generally speaking an upscale area with lots of residents who moved to California from elsewhere. Apart from Sacramento, all of the Central Valley has turned red, as has the Sierra Nevada gold rush and mountain counties. In southern California, the Inland Empire (San Bernardino and Riverside) have turned red, taking the Mojave desert with them, as has Orange county on the coast.

Before we get excited about California turning purple, we need to remember that LA county, with 10 million people (1/4 of California's population) is still defiantly deep blue. The same is true of much of the SF bay area.

In addition, California voters overwhelmingly passed a voter initiative to make crime illegal again, repealing the state law that made theft of less than $1000 worth of goods a misdemeanor. Now it can be charged as a felony for offenders with prior theft convictions. And several pro-criminal Soros district attorneys have been voted out, including in LA county.

And last but definitely not least, Republican victories in a number of California congressional districts appear to have preserved Republican control of the House of Representatives.


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#30
Syne Offline
Yeah, those big population centers swamp whole states, but that's still an impressive map.
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