Russian Ukraine Invasion

[RainbowUnicorn]

11th Russian General killed

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article...onbas.html

Major-General Roman Kutuzov was chief of staff of 29th Combined Arms Army

His vehicle was ambushed by Ukrainians and he died in a fight in Donbas, say sources.

His death is the 11th general, but the first such high ranking army officer in more than a month.

In addition, at least 49 colonels have been killed in the war with Ukraine.

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[Yazata]

Day 100 !!! Summary

https://militaryland.net/ukraine/invasio...0-summary/

https://www.theukrainemap.com/post/june-...kraine-map

When the Ukraine War started Feb 24, nobody expected it to get to 100 days. Especially when those 100 days saw Russia repelled from around Kyiv (which was supposed to fall in a few days) and fought to a near standstill elsewhere. Certainly Putin and the Kremlin never expected what's happened.

On the Kharkiv front, there's little movement with Ukraine taking a couple of villages here, the Russians a village there. Meanwhile the Russians have set up heavy artillery on the Russian side of the nearby border and are again shelling Kharkiv from out of Russia. It's believed that Russia still wants the city of Kharkiv, but they have moved so many forces to the battles to the east that Kharkiv will have to wait.

West of Izium the Russians tried to attack towards Barvinkove but got nowhere with that. Attempts to attack eastwards towards Sloviansk haven't done much better.

To the northeast of Sloviansk around Lyman the Russians have had a bit more success. The Ukrainians appear to be evacuating their positions on the north side of the Siverskyi Donets river to prevent their soldiers from being trapped there, and the Russians have occupied a number of villages that the Ukrainians have vacated. And the Russians tried to force their way across the river into the town of Raihorodok on the road to Sloviansk, but the Ukrainians pushed them back across the river. The Siverskyi Donets river flows through Ukraine from east of Kharkiv to Severodonetsk, and it appears to be the border between Ukrainian controlled areas and Russian occupied areas along much of that length. There are reports that the Russians are moving up pontoon bridges and bridging equipment and evidently plan to make a crossing somewhere, probably in the Lyman area.

Things have been kind of surprising in Severodonetsk. The Ukrainians had seemed to be withdrawing and only maintaining a covering force in the city to cover the withdrawl. But suddenly the Ukrainians turned and counterattacked. The Russians seem to have been caught by surprise and the Ukrainians now appear to control half of the city and are pushing the Russians into the northeast quadrant. The Russians are scurrying to find reinforcements for Severodonetsk which has allowed the Ukrainians to advance elsewhere. They have pushed the Russians back away from the airport and have retaken a couple of outlying industrial towns.

And if the Russians are shelling Kharkiv (Ukraine's second city) the Ukrainians are shelling Donetsk, the largest Russian occupied city in Ukraine and capital of the separatist "republic" that's existed in the east since 2014.

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...1285801984

Kyiv was hit by Russian cruise missiles

https://twitter.com/Militarylandnet/stat...4788827136

Along most of the southern front apart from the area around Kherson neither side has enough forces to spare to launch any offensives.

But north of Kherson the Ukrainians are attacking across the Inhulets river where the Russians tried to set as their defense line. It's a heavily rural area and the Ukrainians are advancing across a broad swathe of farmland.

[RainbowUnicorn]

my thoughts though i am partially repeating myself

i am guessing Russia cant get any more cruise missiles now the sanctions have kicked in ?
hopefully no guidance chips for the computers etc
so they will be using them sparingly knowing they will run out.
they wont want to use up all their naval cruise missiles or they will tactically lose their global edge of ability to reach

once the long range artillery arrives in Ukrainian front lines the only thing Russia will have is cruise missiles or to risk using their air force.

i think its more likely they will risk using their air force rather than using up the last of their long range cruise missiles
that should give Ukraine an opportunity to shoot them down if they can get enough anti aircraft missiles

that airport would have been a key re-arming position for front line air support which would counter Ukraines long range artillery.
and there i believe Russia will be ground to a halt where Ukraine will then have the advantage of longer range and able to pick off Russian ammo dumps supply lines and artillery knowing their ground forces are much better tactically to then go tank hunting
and as Ukraine comes across Russian troop concentrations they can call in artillery

this will be the undoing of Russian morale and have them retreating under fire
but Ukraine must keep Russia air force back
"it it flys, it gets light up like a Christmas tree", must be the blanket repression of air superiority as a basic defense.


while the Russian commanders are trying to decide where to push(& where to move or sacrifice troops), Ukraine needs to be targeting their concentrations of supply's troops and artillery
staying mobile & making sure Ukraine can easily give up ground when needed is key and using the river as the hurdle that Russia must jump over where they will come to a stop & take heavy losses.
at the moment i expect russia is looking to move its artillery & troops to create over bearing numbers to start taking new ground, now they have effectively stalled.

currently i expect russia will be trying to decide how(& where) to re position
& when they move to re-position they will open themselves up for attack

[Yazata]

Here's a briefing from the Austrian Army's military academy about the battle in the Donbas

And it really sounds like this officer read RainbowUnicorn's post immediately above because he's repeating Rainbow's points and saying the same things!

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/RpC1kXhW2Lw

[RainbowUnicorn]

have the USA withdrawn the offer of the long range rocket systems ?

USA is sending "medium range" rocket systems not "long rang"

long range 300 kilometer
medium range = ? 70 kilometers

need air defense for these

interesting hearing the media report the Orcs saying they will do more damage to new targets if the west sends long range weapons
but the orcs are already targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure and transport centers

i don't think this is bluffing as much as counter intel trying to do anything to prevent Ukraine from getting an advantage over the orcs shelling civilian citys into rubble with their artillery
because that is the only tactic they have left and the one they are using.

remember Russia is already shelling civilian targets deliberately and engaging in blitzkrieg warfare by destroying entire citys

the sooner Ukraine gets the ability to shut down Russian artillery
the more civilian lives and buildings will be saved

dirty orcs

[C C]

have the USA withdrawn the offer of the long range rocket systems ?

"Biden Administration won’t sent long-range missiles to Ukraine because it fears, correctly, that Ukraine might use them to attack targets deep inside Russia and start a broader war."

USA is sending "medium range" rocket systems not "long rang"

long range 300 kilometer
medium range = ? 70 kilometers

need air defense for these

interesting hearing the media report the Orcs saying they will do more damage to new targets if the west sends long range weapons
but the orcs are already targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure and transport centers

i don't think this is bluffing as much as counter intel trying to do anything to prevent Ukraine from getting an advantage over the orcs shelling civilian citys into rubble with their artillery
because that is the only tactic they have left and the one they are using.

remember Russia is already shelling civilian targets deliberately and engaging in blitzkrieg warfare by destroying entire citys

the sooner Ukraine gets the ability to shut down Russian artillery
the more civilian lives and buildings will be saved

dirty orcs

Sauron seems to breed them endlessly in Mordor, from something. Lots of rumors about his health, but little to back the wishful thinking up. "Sorcerer, heal thyself."

[Kornee]

Well it is extremely popular and exactly in step with the incessant narrative of entire 'Western world' saturation propaganda offensive, to demonize Russian soldiers (or Russians in general) as sub-human 'orcs'. Dirty orcs at that. Once again, for those willing to consider a very different and yes unpopular take on what's actually unfolding and the wider backdrop to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp0TYx_eUI

[RainbowUnicorn]

Well it is extremely popular and exactly in step with the incessant narrative of entire 'Western world' saturation propaganda offensive, to demonize Russian soldiers (or Russians in general) as sub-human 'orcs'. Dirty orcs at that. Once again, for those willing to consider a very different and yes unpopular take on what's actually unfolding and the wider backdrop to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp0TYx_eUI

Russians raped, looted and attack civilians and destroy entire citys
just like Orcs
they have earned the name by their actions.

[Kornee]

Well it is extremely popular and exactly in step with the incessant narrative of entire 'Western world' saturation propaganda offensive, to demonize Russian soldiers (or Russians in general) as sub-human 'orcs'. Dirty orcs at that. Once again, for those willing to consider a very different and yes unpopular take on what's actually unfolding and the wider backdrop to it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dcp0TYx_eUI

Russians raped, looted and attack civilians and destroy entire citys
just like Orcs
they have earned the name by their actions.

No military on any side in any significant engagement throughout history has ever had a squeaky clean pristine record. It's a matter of relative degree. And most importantly a matter of looking at the overall background before even tentatively trying to assess the likelihood of relative levels of truth from shameless wartime propaganda:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atrocity_p...city_story=
https://antzml.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/...by-effect/
Have you actually viewed even some let alone all of that (re-posted link to) highly illuminating YT interview with former Colonel/Senator Richard Black? Evidently not.

[C C]

Russians raped, looted and attack civilians and destroy entire citys
just like Orcs
they have earned the name by their actions.

Looting for food and bare necessities shouldn't be unexpected.

In the late '70s and very early '80s, after the Vietnam conflict ended, the Vietnamese selling leftover commercial goods in the streets (remnants of capitalism) used to call the visiting Soviets "Americans without money".

Over the last decade, however, Russian tourists spent more in Vietnam than South Koreans and Japanese.

But the military apparently still enjoys USSR level amenities, with perhaps the rest of the country now experiencing similar nostalgia via sanctions.