Russian Ukraine Invasion

[RainbowUnicorn]

Just saw the headline where Biden says US sending Abrams to Ukraine but not right away. Could that be ruse to fool Russians?

i think its 100% accurate
it will be fantastic to see the abrams destroy russian tanks and help bring victory to ukraine.

i do wonder if its possible to change the fuel type to something a little more user friendly than jet fuel.

[stryder]

In essence Russia has it's "Unwinnable War" a scenario that too many countries are already too familiar with (I will spare sourcing this statement)

Sure they might be able to take some ground, but the costs of doing so are stacked well against them.

The cost of manpower, the cost of trust (which is an important commodity within the geopolitical scene) and the cost to their economy. Their country is going to lose out on a number of economic deals over the coming years due to their untrustworthy and corrupt nature. I would doubt most people would want to deal with them for at least 25-30 years after any end to their hostilities. Those that do will be seen as corrupt.

Even If there is an end to hostility, it's not an End, they will just be trying to stockpile to rebuild and take something else in the future, so again it's going to be an issue of Trust. Putins war as done irreperable damage to their current country (It would likely only be resolved by a full scale revolt which apparent people don't think will happen but only time will tell.)

For all those people that claimed Putin was smart... they were wrong... by all means the move he made is one of the Dumbest in history.

[Yazata]

Leopard 2 infographic

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[RainbowUnicorn]

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/yE_5N09p9Mg

[Zinjanthropos]

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/yE_5N09p9Mg

You can’t hide out there by the looks of things. Are both sides digging trenches? Trenches seem like a good place to find enemy soldiers but with the drones either dropping bombs, providing coordinates or guiding missiles then the soldiers in them are sitting ducks. Static army versus mobile mechanized army is no contest these days. I have to ask myself….I’m in a war, do I feel safer in a trench or on the move? Odds of infantryman staying alive don’t appear much different but may improve as your army advances I would think. Appears it’s getting harder to win a war or just stay alive by retreating or digging in.

[confused2]

FWIW .. natural gas is back to about the same price as before Russia invaded Ukraine.
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/c...s/ng%3anmx

[Zinjanthropos]

Couple questions

Should the Russian tank corps take on the Ukraine armor in another Kursk? Too risky for Russians or Ukraine? Should the Ukraine lure Russia into a major tank battle?

If Russia kills Zelensky will Ukraine hit the Kremlin or Putin’s residences?

[Ben the Donkey]

In essence Russia has it's "Unwinnable War" a scenario that too many countries are already too familiar with (I will spare sourcing this statement)

Sure they might be able to take some ground, but the costs of doing so are stacked well against them. 

The cost of manpower, the cost of trust (which is an important commodity within the geopolitical scene) and the cost to their economy.  Their country is going to lose out on a number of economic deals over the coming years due to their untrustworthy and corrupt nature.  I would doubt most people would want to deal with them for at least 25-30 years after any end to their hostilities.  Those that do will be seen as corrupt. 

Even If there is an end to hostility, it's not an End, they will just be trying to stockpile to rebuild and take something else in the future, so again it's going to be an issue of Trust.  Putins war as done irreperable damage to their current country  (It would likely only be resolved by a full scale revolt which apparent people don't think will happen but only time will tell.)

For all those people that claimed Putin was smart... they were wrong... by all means the move he made is one of the Dumbest in history.

I don't think so. It was a calculated gamble; without NATO support, Ukraine might very well have completely folded by now. 
In poker terms, it seems to me short-stacked Russia has gone all-in with a reasonably good hand against an opponent with a few outs. Turn card was NATO involvement, river card yet to be seen.

There is a lot more to this war than economics. Suffice to say Russian aggression in this case was not born as Minerva sprung from the head of Zeus.
Lot of behind the scenes ideology in play.

[RainbowUnicorn]

https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/yE_5N09p9Mg

You can’t hide out there by the looks of things. Are both sides digging trenches? Trenches seem like a good place to find enemy soldiers but with the drones either dropping bombs, providing coordinates or guiding missiles then the soldiers in them are sitting ducks. Static army versus mobile mechanized army is no contest these days. I have to ask myself….I’m in a war, do I feel safer in a trench or on the move? Odds of infantryman staying alive don’t appear much different but may improve as your army advances I would think. Appears it’s getting harder to win a war or just stay alive by retreating or digging in.

harrying & confusing & disrupting is such a powerful tool being employed by the drone operators.
the drone dropped bombs may not be very big but can cause injurys easily and force the Orcs to run around trying not to be killed which disrupts moral.
the drone bombers are a key tactic because when the orcs are running in circles trying to dodge bombs they cant be firing at the ukrainians.
and constantly disrupting their rest and sleep makes them worse on the battlefield and injuring 1 person soaks up the resources of medical that the russians have almost none of.

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Couple questions

Should the Russian tank corps take on the Ukraine armor in another Kursk? Too risky for Russians or Ukraine? Should the Ukraine lure Russia into a major tank battle?

If Russia kills Zelensky will Ukraine hit the Kremlin or Putin’s residences?

Russia is running out of tanks

i think the key element of the tanks is thier ability to kill armoured vehicles with guns on and kill entrenched ors inside buildings so thus eliminating protected fire positions.

i think the leopards and challengers and abrams will easily kill russian tanks
but
i think there is no advantage in trying to lure russian to accumulate a large number in one place because then its more likely a russian tank round may become lucky and hit a Ukrainian tank.

but . . .

i think a big ukrainian armoured assault would be awesome backed up with bradleys Archers & ceasars and drone recon units

Drone recon
on a big push it might be ideal to have a couple of usa predator drones as primary obs.
or
a few drones that can fly high so it cant be seen
probably operated from bradleys dedicated to a drone team
for example
5 Bradleys and 1 is a drone team and the rest is soldiers

[RainbowUnicorn]

video was removed by youtube
it showed Orcs being hit by rockets, from a drone camera angle
could not see any gore but could clearly see them being hit & blown up
was good
a good Orc is a dead Orc