Trump and Netanyahu Announce 20-Point Gaza Peace Plan

(Oct 17, 2025 12:21 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Hamas shooting Gazans instead of hostages probably satisfies some primal lust. How many per hostage is anyone's guess.

Looking at pictures of devastation .. you'd think living amongst it would bring out the best in human nature .. sadly not in everyone.

(Oct 17, 2025 10:42 AM)stryder Wrote: When people think of starvation, they probably think of pictures of Ethiopian from the 1980s. That actually was Famine, which is worse case of starvation since that isn't just about not being able to get food, but grow it.

In August 2025, a United Nations-backed group of experts officially declared that a famine was occurring in the northern part of the Gaza Strip. This marked the first time the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC) confirmed a famine in the region and one of only a few times it has made such a declaration globally.


While the UN did not officially change its long-standing definition of famine, allegations were made in 2025 that an affiliated watchdog, the Integrated Food Security Phase Classification (IPC), used a different methodology to analyze famine in Gaza.
- Google AI

(Oct 17, 2025 01:33 PM)confused2 Wrote:

(Oct 17, 2025 12:21 PM)Zinjanthropos Wrote: Hamas shooting Gazans instead of hostages probably satisfies some primal lust. How many per hostage is anyone's guess.

Looking at pictures of devastation .. you'd think living amongst it would bring out the best in human nature .. sadly not in everyone.

AI…

Quote:. Living in a war-devastated area has severe and long-lasting consequences, affecting people's physical, psychological, social, economic, and environmental well-being. The destruction of infrastructure and targeting of civilians in modern warfare inflict trauma that can last for generations, even after the fighting has ended.

The best in human nature may not be possible in Gaza. In the past I have mentioned the ME was rife with PTSD. Seems AI agrees with my sentiments, at least for Gaza:

Quote: PTSD rates are extremely high in Gaza due to decades of conflict, and recent events have significantly worsened the mental health crisis for both adults and children. Studies show high percentages of adults and children with symptomatic PTSD, along with other issues like severe anxiety and depression. Factors contributing to this include constant violence, displacement, loss, and limited access to mental health services, which are already overwhelmed and on the verge of collapse.

I’m not expecting any swift cure or a miracle to occur overnight. Some mentally ill people might find it difficult to be nice to one another with guns at the disposal of those with severe mental impairment. A huge psych ward containing armed patients.

(Oct 18, 2025 10:32 AM)Zinjanthropos Wrote:

Quote: PTSD rates are extremely high in Gaza due to decades of conflict, and recent events have significantly worsened the mental health crisis for both adults and children. Studies show high percentages of adults and children with symptomatic PTSD, along with other issues like severe anxiety and depression. Factors contributing to this include constant violence, displacement, loss, and limited access to mental health services, which are already overwhelmed and on the verge of collapse.   

Might also include the decades of Hamas terrorizing Gazans themselves. They were executing enemy Palestinians in Gaza long before Oct 7th, and now they're back to business as usual. Seems few care about either.