Trump and Netanyahu Announce 20-Point Gaza Peace Plan

[confused2]

What did I tell ya? It is CNN reporting however. Stonings, beheadings, firing squad, draw and quarter, whatever. Welcome home

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/12/middleeas...y-war-intl

^^ and that would suggest a fail... as predicted in redneck America .. which I have to admit .. Trump rose above.

[Zinjanthropos]

What did I tell ya? It is CNN reporting however. Stonings, beheadings, firing squad, draw and quarter, whatever. Welcome home

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/12/middleeas...y-war-intl

^^ and that would suggest a fail... as predicted in redneck America .. which I have to admit .. Trump rose above.

Not a surrender but a ceasefire with conditions.

Only thing guaranteed is that Hamas will not win a Nobel.

War still on. It sounds like a Neville Chamberlain appeasement, making concessions to an aggressor to end or avoid conflict.

[Syne]

Who doesn't want peace? @_@
It has always hinged solely on Hamas giving up the hostages and giving up their weapons.

Hand in their weapons to a plausible Palestinian state government. Ninini .. created  by terrorism or not .. it doesn't matter .. go with the wave.

What are you on about? They would be disarmed by the internationally monitored provisional government... not a Palestinians government.

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What did I tell ya? It is CNN reporting however. Stonings, beheadings, firing squad, draw and quarter, whatever. Welcome home

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/12/middleeas...y-war-intl

^^ and that would suggest a fail... as predicted in redneck America .. which I have to admit .. Trump rose above.

Not a surrender but a ceasefire with conditions.

Only thing guaranteed is that Hamas will not win a Nobel.

War still on. It sounds like a Neville Chamberlain appeasement, making concessions to an aggressor to end or avoid conflict.

No, in-fighting between Palestinians is not a continuation of the war with Israel. If anything, it's a civil war.
It's not a failure... yet... as everyone knew that Hamas would likely reassert themselves as the internal authority, until international oversight authority can be instituted.

[Magical Realist]

Trump is a piece of shit. I'm glad he didn't win the peace prize. He's an embarrassment to America. Just 3 more years of this humiliation. I think Netanyahoo's decision for peace had more to do with mounting world pressure including from his own people. He was going down politically, and this basically saved his ass.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1606155714123454

[Zinjanthropos]

I’ll give credit to Trump for the ceasefire when no one else would step up. Ceasefires usually have conditions. I think the returning Palestinians believe the war with Israel is over. More CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/13/politics/...l-gaza-war

[Syne]

Trump is a piece of shit. I'm glad he didn't win the peace prize. He's an embarrassment to America. Just 3 more years of this humiliation. I think Netanyahoo's decision for peace had more to do with mounting world pressure including from his own people. He was going down politically, and this basically saved his ass.

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1606155714123454

No, you're still the piece of shit. Believing partisan slop paraphrasing Trump out of context... because it affirms your bias against Trump, especially when you don't want to credit him with a peace deal. And attacking Netanyahu in a way that sound suspiciously like you're claiming OCT 7th was orchestrated by Israel, which makes you a vile antisemite.

[Magical Realist]

And attacking Netanyahu in a way that sound suspiciously like you're claiming OCT 7th was orchestrated by Israel,

LOL Yeah dumbass...that's what I said alright. Did you just completely flunk out of HS English class?

[Syne]

And attacking Netanyahu in a way that sound suspiciously like you're claiming OCT 7th was orchestrated by Israel,

LOL Yeah dumbass...that's what I said alright. Did you just completely flunk out of HS English class?

Just making sure you're an outright antisemite piece of human waste.

When people tell you who they are, believe them.

[Magical Realist]

Just making sure you're an outright antisemite piece of human waste.

Meh...that's pretty much your one go-to punchline isn't it? You repeat it so much it's lost all dramatic effect much less credibility. Sometimes I think you're a mindless chatbot outputting the same sentences over and over. But then I realize that can't be as those are actually much more interesting. lol

[Yazata]

What did I tell ya? It is CNN reporting however. Stonings, beheadings, firing squad, draw and quarter, whatever. Welcome home

https://www.cnn.com/2025/10/12/middleeas...y-war-intl

^^ and that would suggest a fail... as predicted in redneck America .. which I have to admit .. Trump rose above.

Not a surrender but a ceasefire with conditions.

That's up to Hamas, I think.

If Hamas refuses to disarm and if they resist the new International Stabilization force, they will either survive as a (extremely weak) armed force or be squashed by the ISF. (That in turn depends on the ISF's composition, determination and rules of engagement.)

If Hamas survives the ISF, Israel will still occupy half of the Gaza strip and won't withdraw any further. There's no conceivable way Hamas can push Israel out. Israel will continue to erase Hamas militants in their areas.

What's more, all the foreign aid and rebuilding in areas still ostensibly ruled by Hamas will be put on hold. All while beautiful new projects go up in the Israeli controlled half of the strip. If Gaza residents want jobs, more abundant food, hospital care, education, then they can vote with their feet, so to speak. Hopefully Hamas will lose whatever popular support they currently have.

Only thing guaranteed is that Hamas will not win a Nobel.

War still on. It sounds like a Neville Chamberlain appeasement, making concessions to an aggressor to end or avoid conflict.

Yeah, this could drag out for years, but Hamas no longer represents a military threat to Israel, will no longer be firing rockets into Israel, and would seem to be in a long-term losing situation.