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Syne
May 15, 2025 01:49 AM
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"He just said he had done" something he never shows you.
If you can't see the shadow move, you're blind. Probably why you have to rely on blind faith so much.
Those who have to crow that they've won are usually the furthest from it. Now, if you merely presented your "evidence" and didn't get all defensive about it for pages and pages, you could entertain the notion that we're just unreasonable skeptics. But once you go on and on preaching your faith and then just proclaim victory, that's just very sad and pathetic. There there.
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Magical Realist
May 15, 2025 01:58 AM
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LOL Gloaters may be accused of many things, but not winning isn't one of them.
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Leigha
May 15, 2025 02:53 AM
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(May 14, 2025 11:16 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Quote:The figure in the middle of the night seems like it could easily be someone (an actual guest spending the night there) walking across the hall, and they manipulated the footage, to look like the figure was 'disappearing' into the opposite wall,
Nope..it couldn't have "easily been anyone" since the couple were the only ones in the house.It's an old lady apparently that they'd never seen before. No guests and no intruders. Unless you're claiming it is all a hoax--which is the standard copout for all ideological skeptics. Is that what you're claiming?
Quote:With all the technology we have today - from thermal cameras to motion sensors, no one has ever produced consistent, verifiable evidence of ghost activity.
That's quite a claim. So you've watched all the paranormal series on TV and reviewed all the videos on Youtube and know for a fact nobody has caught any evidence whatsoever? That's simply not true. I've been watching paranormal investigators on TV for around 20 years now and the evidence is compelling and undeniable. The typical skeptic copout is that it's not repeatable so it isn't evidence, which is ridiculous. People rely on videos all the time to solve crimes or study natural and even anomalous events without having to repeat them. Videos are always compelling evidence. Of course when they ARE compelling as in this case skeptics will just claim they're hoaxed without any evidence of that whatsoever. So it appears a skeptic can never be convinced of anything in the end.
Quote:I don't disbelieve in people's impressions and perceptions - they feel what they feel. I can even speak to times when I've felt a 'presence' or there have been 'shadowy' figures in the corner of my eye, when I haven't had enough sleep, or something. Interestingly, most of these ghost activities take place when people are most vulnerable - during the night and startled awake, or in a twilight sleep.
But you DO disbelieve in videos apparently, which are accepted by everybody as reliable recordings of objective events. I myself have never seen a ghost. I have seen flashes of light, darting shadows, and floating mists. But no full body apparitions yet. I highly doubt most people are in the habit of making up such scary things in the middle of the night. That would be the last thing you would want to see. And well, then there are just the videos confirming the actual existence of such. What it all comes down to is who are we going the believe--the eyewitnesses and videos of those who have seen ghosts, or the skeptics who always claim they are just liars and hoaxers because they don't want to believe in ghosts? The answer is pretty obvious to me. Always believe the ones without an agenda.
I was just saying that the video is evidence of something - but it’s hard to say if it’s a ghost. There’s nothing wrong with you believing it’s a ghost, but do you go through any process before concluding that or is it a hunch/feeling? There are times when intuition kicks in or we just sense a presence but if I were to analyze any of my “feelings,” there would likely be ordinary explanations. Not very exciting, but…lol I’d consider myself an open-minded skeptic, perhaps?
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Magical Realist
May 15, 2025 04:14 AM
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Quote:I was just saying that the video is evidence of something - but it’s hard to say if it’s a ghost. There’s nothing wrong with you believing it’s a ghost, but do you go through any process before concluding that or is it a hunch/feeling? There are times when intuition kicks in or we just sense a presence but if I were to analyze any of my “feelings,” there would likely be ordinary explanations. Not very exciting, but…lol I’d consider myself an open-minded skeptic, perhaps?
From my own experience of seeing them in photos and in videos ghosts come in so many different forms and degrees of substantiality that it's hard to rely on hunches even the most educated of them. In one video they can appear as a shadow figure. In another as a whispey phantom. And in another as a solid person. And in yet another as a little squiggly glowing shape. What I rely on is all the information about the video I have and weigh the plausibility of it having a mundane explanation. If I find that extremely low, and the witnesses seem totally credible, then I accept it as genuine. I have no reason to doubt their existence having seen so many videos of them over the years. They ARE rare, so take solace in that. The places you are likely to encounter them are old delapidated buildings and land with a history of suffering and death. Abandoned prisons, shutdown asylums, Civil War battlefields, cemetaries, old houses, and deserted hospitals/ sanitariums. Places I pretty much avoid as much as I can. lol
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Syne
May 15, 2025 04:19 AM
(May 15, 2025 01:58 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: LOL Gloaters may be accused of many things, but not winning isn't one of them.
Wow, you really have problems with the English language.
Or is it just the distracting interference from the voices in your head?
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Zinjanthropos
May 15, 2025 05:06 AM
The claim of an existing ajar door being opened wider by a ghost is preposterous and is enough to make the entire story collapse like a house of cards. And in case someone notices the door wasn’t properly closed in the first place, just bring in some ‘expert’ to say poltergeists enter through doors. This despite the old lady ghost apparently walking in and out thru a wall. No ghost here folks
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Magical Realist
May 15, 2025 06:06 AM
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Ghosts move objects all the time, especially doors. They also like to scoot chairs around. It's called polterqeist activity and is an indication of a haunting. I've posted many on-video cases of this. There was even one where a marine in his barracks room has his locker doors forcefully slammed open by themselves. Syne said it was all done thru strings, which of course nobody could see. If you weren't so ignorant of the very topic you're always claiming is fake you'd know this. A little education never hurt anybody, no?
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Zinjanthropos
May 15, 2025 01:09 PM
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(May 15, 2025 06:06 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Ghosts move objects all the time, especially doors. It's called polterqeist activity and is an indication of a haunting. I've posted many on-video cases of this. There was even one where a marine in his barracks room has his locker doors forcefully slammed open by themselves. Syne said it was all done thru strings, which of course nobody could see. If you weren't so ignorant of the very topic you're always claiming is fake you'd know this. A little education never hurt anybody, no?
Try educating yourself on recognizing fakes or at least how ghosts are faked and how ordinary happenings can be mistaken for ghosts. If grade 1 students can do it then so can you.
AI: It's common for young children to believe in things like ghosts and monsters, as their understanding of the world is still developing. However, a Grade 1 student who understands that ghosts are not real has likely acquired this understanding through learning, experiences, or perhaps from an older sibling or other source of information. This is a positive development, as it suggests an ability to separate fantasy from reality
When making a good fake ghost video there’s a reason strings shouldn’t be visible.  I remember the marine’s ghost, so obviously faked.
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Magical Realist
May 15, 2025 04:47 PM
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Yes..strings are the ultimate convenience for all aspiring debunkers: they are there because you can see them, and they are there because you can't see them. It's basically a win win for them.
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Zinjanthropos
May 15, 2025 05:06 PM
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(May 15, 2025 04:47 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: Yes..strings are the ultimate convenience for all aspiring debunkers: they are there because you can see them, and they are there because you can't see them. It's basically a win win for them.
Ya, my bedroom door was banging back and forth last night until I got up to close it. I couldn’t see the air moving so I guess by your logic since there wasn’t any air to be seen, just a ghost with nothing else to do.
One thing I am glad about is that your old lady ghost still had clothes on. Have ghost experts figured out why clothing is the dress code for ghosts?
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