Ghost captured on home security camera inside home

[Zinjanthropos]

I really hadn’t examined the vid until now. They’re all the same so why bother? But had to laugh at the front door opening by poltergeist scene @ 2:30 mark. It is so obvious the door is ajar to the point where a slight breeze, vibration of a vehicle passing by or perhaps a tug of a string could open it. She said there was a screen door on other side but I could only see light of day ( or poltergeist? Boohaha) Screen door open? Someone outside give inside door a gentle nudge?

I’m pretty sure narrator said Lisa woke up to the sound of their dog barking but there are definitely at least two different mutts in video. The barking obviously an added touch but when the thing fell from shelf that mutt had not barked and when the door opened that dog didn’t bark, presuming the poltergeist was nearby in both cases. I think all the sounds heard have been added for effect. Still you’d think those mutts would be going nuts because ghost was close.

I watched the faces of the homeowners closely when they directly faced camera. While introducing themselves there was no problem looking into the camera but when they had to relate bits of the story their eyes rarely looked at it. The guys eyes were mostly down and maybe just a very quick glance upward whereas the gals eyes were roaming and not really affixed to the lens. Signs of a lie?

Regardless, while MR will poo-poo this I think it is important enough to be investigated to prove some authenticity for starters.

[Magical Realist]

Meh. Not even worth responding to.

[Leigha]

This is pretty unmistakeable. Certainly not anyone who SHOULD be in that house. And the homeowners report other strange things going on in their home as well. Pretty solid proof of the paranormal I must say! Welcome to your new supernatural universe rookies...

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You know that I like being open minded MR, but I take issue with one of the hosts saying basically that the only other option if we can't see someone opening the door, is it must be a ghost. That's not the only other option. The door didn't appear to be closed tightly, and wind, or something else could have moved it open, since it was slightly ajar? The figure in the middle of the night seems like it could easily be someone (an actual guest spending the night there) walking across the hall, and they manipulated the footage, to look like the figure was 'disappearing' into the opposite wall, but is there another room on the other side of that hallway? We can't see it, I'm not sure if the couple mentions it. (I didn't watch the entire video.)

With all the technology we have today - from thermal cameras to motion sensors, no one has ever produced consistent, verifiable evidence of ghost activity. That doesn’t mean people don’t feel like they’ve had experiences, but it does suggest those experiences are likely explainable by more ordinary means. We've talked about this before on the other forum - why would this couple lie about this? Money, I guess? A few minutes of fame? I found it odd that the husband said '' well, obviously, it's a ghost,'' when his wife questioned if someone is in the house. My issue in general, and this is just me - the entire presentation of this seems choreographed, complete with music, to appear ominous, like a reality show for ghosts.

I don't disbelieve in people's impressions and perceptions - they feel what they feel. I can even speak to times when I've felt a 'presence' or there have been 'shadowy' figures in the corner of my eye, when I haven't had enough sleep, or something. Interestingly, most of these ghost activities take place when people are most vulnerable - during the night and startled awake, or in a twilight sleep.

[Syne]

"a gas station attendant, a store clerk, our dentist, a coffee barista, a passenger on an airplane, a delivery driver, etc" are not making extraordinary claims. So obviously a false equivalence there.

Again, if you can't move fast while being quiet, you're a clumsy oaf. And this guy gave a warning that delayed him getting there, and there's an obvious wall very close to hide behind, that he didn't show behind. You can even see the figure's shadow move to the left... not down the back of the wall that he shows us.

LEARN TO READ, dipshit. I didn't say this guy was bragging. "It's like" means an analogy follows. Again, this guy conveniently doesn't show behind a clear hiding place. Nothing "devious" about it. It's actually very lazy, but enough to get you frothing at the mouth. If this guy didn't want his claims undermined, he would have shown more. Like footage of investigating where EVERY figure was and showing EVERYWHERE one could have hidden. You are just endlessly credulous.

It's only "totally compelling" to a true believer like you. If it were actually compelling, we wouldn't be having this discussion, dipshit. That's what the word "compelling" means (not able to be refuted). You claiming it's unrefuted doesn't magically make it so... no matter how hard you really really wish it.

[Magical Realist]

The figure in the middle of the night seems like it could easily be someone (an actual guest spending the night there) walking across the hall, and they manipulated the footage, to look like the figure was 'disappearing' into the opposite wall,

Nope..it couldn't have "easily been anyone" since the couple were the only ones in the house.It's an old lady apparently that they'd never seen before. No guests and no intruders. Unless you're claiming it is all a hoax--which is the standard copout for all ideological skeptics. Is that what you're claiming?

With all the technology we have today - from thermal cameras to motion sensors, no one has ever produced consistent, verifiable evidence of ghost activity.

That's quite a claim. So you've watched all the paranormal series on TV and reviewed all the videos on Youtube and know for a fact nobody has caught any evidence whatsoever? That's simply not true. I've been watching paranormal investigators on TV for around 20 years now and the evidence is compelling and undeniable. The typical skeptic copout is that it's not repeatable so it isn't evidence, which is ridiculous. People rely on videos all the time to solve crimes or study natural and even anomalous events without having to repeat them. Videos are always compelling evidence. Of course when they ARE compelling as in this case skeptics will just claim they're hoaxed without any evidence of that whatsoever. So it appears a skeptic can never be convinced of anything in the end.

I don't disbelieve in people's impressions and perceptions - they feel what they feel. I can even speak to times when I've felt a 'presence' or there have been 'shadowy' figures in the corner of my eye, when I haven't had enough sleep, or something. Interestingly, most of these ghost activities take place when people are most vulnerable - during the night and startled awake, or in a twilight sleep.

But you DO disbelieve in videos apparently, which are accepted by everybody as reliable recordings of objective events. I myself have never seen a ghost. I have seen flashes of light, darting shadows, and floating mists. But no full body apparitions yet. I highly doubt most people are in the habit of making up such scary things in the middle of the night. That would be the last thing you would want to see. And well, then there are just the videos confirming the actual existence of such. What it all comes down to is who are we going the believe--the eyewitnesses and videos of those who have seen ghosts, or the skeptics who always claim they are just liars and hoaxers because they don't want to believe in ghosts? The answer is pretty obvious to me. Always believe the ones without an agenda.

[Zinjanthropos]

Anyone: need extra money
Friend: why not YouTube video? Get hits, get viral, get subscribers, get paid
Anyone: Sounds great! What’s a good subject?
Friend: try paranormal. Ghosts, UFOs, weird stuff
Anyone: might need help
Friend: I know this guy. Calls himself MR. Put a ghost video together and he’ll get you the viewers.
Anyone: And?
Friend: Doesn’t need to be perfect. He’ll play it anywhere he can and never stop claiming it’s genuine proof of ghosts. It will be controversial but skeptics will view it multiple times to prove it wrong and believers will do same to affirm belief in spirit world. He takes the heat. Can’t lose.
Anyone: How much?
Friend: You sign a contract with him and he’ll collect a percentage of moneys earned from YT. He does promotion and you sit back and hope video is a success. He’s also done work for those who failed on their own by reviving a past video.

[Syne]

With all the technology we have today - from thermal cameras to motion sensors, no one has ever produced consistent, verifiable evidence of ghost activity.

That's quite a claim. So you've watched all the paranormal series on TV and reviewed all the videos on Youtube and know for a fact nobody has caught any evidence whatsoever? That's simply not true.

That's simply a straw man, as she didn't say "nobody has caught any evidence whatsoever."

If you could manage to read, you'd be able to see that she clearly said, "no one has ever produced consistent, verifiable evidence of ghost activity."

Learn to read, dipshit.

[Magical Realist]

"a gas station attendant, a store clerk, our dentist, a coffee barista, a passenger on an airplane, a delivery driver, etc" are not making extraordinary claims. So obviously a false equivalence there.

You didn't say that. You just said I was gullible for believing what strangers tell us. At which point I showed only a paranoid freak would disbelieve them. And when they present a clearly genuine video of something extraordinary, well then you have extraordinary evidence to believe as well.

Again, if you can't move fast while being quiet, you're a clumsy oaf.

Quit being an idiot. Nobody can run fast across an old wooden floor quietly. It's simply impossible. And this fact alone totally refutes your claim that it was all a hoax.

And this guy gave a warning that delayed him getting there,

He's not warning anybody. He's talking to the cellphone as he is making a video showing people what he did repeatedly.

and there's an obvious wall very close to hide behind, that he didn't show behind.

No evidence there is anyone behind a wall.

You can even see the figure's shadow move to the left... not down the back of the wall that he shows us.

No shadow of anyone in that room. You're making shit up again.

I didn't say this guy was bragging. "It's like" means an analogy follows.

So it''s like when someone is bragging, but he is not bragging at all? Yeah. That makes perfect sense! lol

Again, this guy conveniently doesn't show behind a clear hiding place. Nothing "devious" about it. It's actually very lazy, but enough to get you frothing at the mouth. If this guy didn't want his claims undermined, he would have shown more.

So first you claim it's all an elaborate hoax he is pulling with a real kid in makeup and white contact lenses, and then you claim it isn't and is really just being tricked by a real kid, who again wears makeup and white contact lenses just for the fun of it? This is getting deeper by the minute. Let me put my galoshes on! lol

Like footage of investigating where EVERY figure was and showing EVERYWHERE one could have hidden. You are just endlessly credulous.

No..no catering to true disbelievers and trying to meet their every whimsical demand. He showed what he got on video, and even proved it was real by trying to chase it. That's all that he needed, and that's why it is a video aired on a national TV series presenting videos of the paranormal. Because it is compelling proof.

It's only "totally compelling" to a true believer like you.

Actually to me and like millions of other viewers of the video online and on the TV series. But who's counting? lol

If it were actually compelling, we wouldn't be having this discussion, dipshit.

Actually you got that backwards. If it were NOT compelling, there'd be no strained and contrived attempts by the skeptics here to try to debunk it. It'd just be laughed at and ignored. I can always tell when a video is compelling by the hostility and insults I get from the skeptics. Like they really need to attack me for what? posting a video of the paranormal online? Methinks thou doth complain too much my lady..

You claiming it's unrefuted doesn't magically make it so... no matter how hard you really really wish it.

You have pretty much tried to refute these videos for around 5 pages now. If it was refuted then why all the repetitious posts and little tirades and schoolyard insults? Calm down. It's just two little ghosts. It's not gonna hurt anybody. lol

[Syne]

So MR pleads ignorance about the entire context of his own thread. 9_9 But thanks for admitting you're a clumsy oaf.
Warning or not, it delays him getting there and you can clearly see the figure's shadow retreat long before he gets there.
There's no evidence of anyone behind the wall because he never looks. People do this all the time, "disappearing" behind a dropped blanket to fool their stupid pets. If the pet isn't smart enough to go looking, hooman magically vanished.
You're blind if you can't see the shadow move away before he gets there. Try paying attention to your own video for once.
Yes, we know you can't seem to understand simple English, much less something as complicated as a simple analogy. 9_9 If you're head wasn't quite so far up your own ass, you'd understand that the analogy was someone saying something they don't/won't show... which I literally said AND illustrated with two different analogies. Sorry it wasn't written in crayon too.
No, you added the "elaborate" as an obvious straw man. It's a dumb trick, like you'd play on your pet when you pretend to throw the ball. And dumb animals fall for it all the time. This one is the easiest thing to do with a camera and only showing what you want to. And no one at all said anything about this guy getting tricked by a kid. The random bullshit you pull out of your ass to defend this nonsense is just ridiculously stupid.

You're the dumb animal, and he fooled you with a simple trick that most five year olds would see through.
Again, you obviously don't know what "compelling evidence" means. There there little mooncalf. Just keep believing that you're persecuted for your quasi-religious beliefs. Must make you feel special or privy to mysteries or something. And, man, you must really need it.

Why do people keep pretending to throw a ball or disappear behind a blanket for their pets? It's fun to laugh at dumb animals.

[Magical Realist]

There's no evidence of anyone behind the wall because he never looks. People do this all the time, "disappearing" behind a dropped blanket to fool their stupid pets. If the pet isn't smart enough to go looking, hooman magically vanished.

No reason to. He just said he had done this over and over only to turn up nothing. Proving there's no one there by going in after the boy is proof enough. And no. There is no shadow of the boy. Face it. You've failed. The evidence stands unrefuted. Now that you know ghosts exist, I'll start posting some information we have learned about them over the years. You have much to catch up on grasshopper.