Assassination Attempt at Trump Campaign Rally

#31
C C Offline
AP keeps updating the incident each day, adding more details. Until something turns up that goes against the narrative that Crooks didn't talk about politics or seem to have any ideological views, the only apparent motive for shooting Trump is that he just desired achieving the post-death notoriety of having killed a controversial celebrity, former President, etc before he was taken out himself.

In the wake of Trump’s attempted assassination, investigators search for clues around the motive
https://apnews.com/article/trump-assassi...43fc9132e5

EXCERPT: Several rallygoers reported to local officers that Crooks was acting suspiciously and pacing near the magnetometers, according to a law enforcement official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the investigation. Officers were then told Crooks was climbing a ladder, the official said. Officers searched for him but were unable to find him before he made it to the roof, the official added.

Butler County Sheriff Michael Slupe told the AP that a local officer climbed to the roof and encountered Crooks, who saw the officer and turned toward him just before the officer dropped down to safety. Slupe said the officer couldn’t have wielded his own gun under the circumstances. The officer retreated down the ladder, and Crooks quickly took a shot toward Trump, and that’s when Secret Service snipers shot him, according to two officials who spoke to AP on condition of anonymity to discuss an ongoing investigation.
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#32
Secular Sanity Offline
There’s also the little BlackRock bit. We all know that BlackRock has been the subject of conspiracy theories, but he had to be pretty smart to participate in an AP honors economics class. And it is a little weird that he was in a BlackRock commercial, which they supposedly pulled.

Yeah, a wee bit simulationey. Confused


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/6RrBxIWIuOM
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#33
Yazata Offline
By Michael Goodwin at the New York Post:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/opinion/tr...n-attempt/

"Hating Donald Trump is a mainstream disease and has been since he first entered the 2016 primary contest.

It’s everywhere, from early morning to late night, and comes from people who probably never before thought they would think and say such things.

But their conscience didn’t stop them, or at least most of them, from enjoying the right to hate him. Trump, you must know, is singularly evil and the rules of civil discourse and even fair play don’t apply to him...

In fact, the only sin in many quarters of supposed elite society is not hating Trump enough.

Leaders of the Democratic Party are especially guilty of routinely using the most inflammatory language when talking about him.

Nancy Pelosi called him Putin’s man in Washington. The facts proved otherwise, but not all facts are equal anymore. Feelings matter more.

“All of us want to defeat Trump, the most dangerous president in American history,” Sen. Bernie Sanders said in a fundraising email that arrived two hours before the assassination attempt on Trump’s life.

“The Threat Remains and Democracy Must Be Defended” screamed an email from Joe Biden at about the same time.

See, he’s a threat, he’s dangerous. He’s not a normal human being or normal opponent...

True, heated words and inflated language lead many people to open their checkbooks. It’s the sad norm of fundraising, especially online.

But the same words mean something entirely different to other people. If they hear them day in and day out, on television and in newspapers and on even acceptable social media, they begin to believe them.

Literally...

The really sad part is you don’t need me to tell you any of this. Just remember the first thought that came to your mind when you heard the news that Trump had been shot and saw the picture of the bleeding former president being lifted by beefy men in suits, blood on his ear, face and hands.

Once you knew he was shot at a rally, you knew everything you needed to know.

You knew they did it, they finally did it..."

Scott Pinsker at PJ Media:

https://pjmedia.com/scott-pinsker/2024/0...n-n4930686

"With red rivulets of blood trickling down his face, the once-and-future president gazed skyward and paused – just briefly – before suddenly raising his fist with unbowed defiance as the American flag unfurled itself...

That was it.

The moment Donald Trump’s rally was transformed into the closing scene of "Rocky IV" was the seminal moment of the 2024 presidential campaign...

This was… different...

Even if you’ve never attended a single Trump rally, you’ve probably watched dozens of them – via TV, social media, and online clips. Trump is an expert at forging personal relationships with large swaths of people via media platforms, but more than anything else, it’s today’s culture that fueled this sense of one-on-one familiarity: Trump isn’t just someone we watch – he’s someone we personally know.

And last night, the American people saw someone they personally know get shot in the frickin’ head on live television.

It changes the trajectory for both candidates: Trump has now cheated death, taken the slings, arrows, lawsuits – and even bullets – of his fiercest critics, and he’s still standing. (If anyone ever wondered why the UFC crowd has such an affinity for the ex-president, this moment answered it.)...

For Biden, his political calculus has also been permanently altered: When you’re trailing, you’re incentivized to attack. In fact, depending on how much you trail, you need to attack – it’s your shortest path for making up lost ground... The more you can demonize your opponent, the better your chances will be...

Age, fate, incompetence, and rapidly advancing senility have stripped the Biden campaign of its most potent ammo, but the one quiver Biden still has left is his thin veneer of likability... Biden has built his brand as a likable family man who’s simply a “nice guy.” Alas, he’ll have to sacrifice that image if and when he demonizes a man who just stared the Reaper in the eye. He might bloody Trump, but he’ll bloody himself even worse.

Still, the number one takeaway...

There’s a machismo gap (or call it a toughness gap). On one side, you have an unbowed, unbroken, unrepentant Trump, hoisting his fist in the air and urging Americans to continue to fight the good fight... Whereas Donald Trump is channeling his inner Stallone... Joe Biden looks older than the dust between Nebuchadnezzar’s toes. It’s a helluva contrast.

And it’s this contrast that will stay with the American people through November."
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#34
C C Offline
(Jul 15, 2024 07:40 PM)Yazata Wrote: By Michael Goodwin at the New York Post:

https://nypost.com/2024/07/13/opinion/tr...n-attempt/

[...] Leaders of the Democratic Party are especially guilty of routinely using the most inflammatory language when talking about him.

[...] Once you knew he was shot at a rally, you knew everything you needed to know.

You knew they did it, they finally did it..."

With the retribution fears a certain agency had about itself, and all the hysterical dialogues about DT becoming a dictator, it's certainly possible that they were considering bumping off Trump. Especially after Biden's dismal debate performance. Last resort time may have arrived. But if so, they still waited too late -- till an amateur took on the task alone, and now they can't do anything in the aftermath.

Unlike Lee Harvey Oswald publicly advertising that he was a nutter in various ways, Crooks was quiet and not on a Watch List. So the government apparatus couldn't recruit somebody whose inclinations they knew nothing about. They ultimately bungled it by holding off until a wannabe intervened and turned Trump into a surviving, living martyr icon -- the very opposite of what the apparatus wanted (a merely worshipped dead victim or imprisoned "felon-hero" who was no longer a direct election menace).
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#35
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(Jul 15, 2024 12:33 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [...] From the article…

"Pro-Trump message boards were also celebrating Trump’s survival and lionizing the image of Trump surrounded by his Secret Service agents with a fist raised to the crowd." [...]

Feeding off of deep Jungian archetype roots? Wink

https://www.scivillage.com/thread-16166-...l#pid65030







(Jul 15, 2024 07:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: There’s also the little BlackRock bit. We all know that BlackRock has been the subject of conspiracy theories, but he had to be pretty smart to participate in an AP honors economics class. And it is a little weird that he was in a BlackRock commercial, which they supposedly pulled.

Yeah, a wee bit simulationey. Confused

https://youtu.be/6RrBxIWIuOM?si=hd-HcEGTvy86ri1q

Even in that bloody, close-up death picture of his head (at the bottom of Yazata's post below) he still looked like somebody's baby boy playing soldier. You wonder what chain of tragic, incrementally irreversible circumstances turns an innocent into a monster.

https://www.scivillage.com/thread-16163-...l#pid65000
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#36
Secular Sanity Offline
(Jul 15, 2024 10:05 PM)C C Wrote:
(Jul 15, 2024 12:33 AM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [...] From the article…

"Pro-Trump message boards were also celebrating Trump’s survival and lionizing the image of Trump surrounded by his Secret Service agents with a fist raised to the crowd." [...]

Feeding off of deep Jungian archetype roots? Wink

https://www.scivillage.com/thread-16166-...l#pid65030







(Jul 15, 2024 07:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: There’s also the little BlackRock bit. We all know that BlackRock has been the subject of conspiracy theories, but he had to be pretty smart to participate in an AP honors economics class. And it is a little weird that he was in a BlackRock commercial, which they supposedly pulled.

Yeah, a wee bit simulationey. Confused

https://youtu.be/6RrBxIWIuOM?si=hd-HcEGTvy86ri1q

Even in that bloody, close-up death picture of his head (at the bottom of Yazata's post below) he still looked like somebody's baby boy playing soldier. You wonder what chain of tragic, incrementally irreversible circumstances turns an innocent into a monster.

https://www.scivillage.com/thread-16163-...l#pid65000

Doesn't even have to be tragic circumstances. Could be psychological or physiological.

Trump chose J.D. Vance. Probably a good choice considering all the chaos in today’s world.

Is there a Jungian archetype that shits his pants? I’ll stick with the pussy grabbing fist pumper. Wink
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#37
Syne Offline
(Jul 15, 2024 11:05 AM)stryder Wrote: You have to take into consideration that the shooter was one of the disenfranchised youth, who likely took offence not just with Trump but the whole system. (Possibly fed up with "Old people" making decisions for them.)

It means if it had been a Biden rally in Butler, they might of attempted to shoot Biden instead.
No, he donated to a leftist political group. I agree he doesn't seem overtly ideological from what we know, but that's a far cry from saying any ol' politician could have been the target.

Quote:It suggests that the narratives of both sides basically fuelled that someone would attempt something to someone at some point. (It's already had other occurances of stirring up trouble like the Nancy Pelosi attacker and of course the Capital Hill Mob)

"Both sides" fallacy. Unless you have specific examples otherwise, the inciting rhetoric has largely been from one side.
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#38
geordief Offline
(Jul 15, 2024 07:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: There’s also the little BlackRock bit. We all know that BlackRock has been the subject of conspiracy theories, but he had to be pretty smart to participate in an AP honors economics class. And it is a little weird that he was in a BlackRock commercial, which they supposedly pulled.

Yeah, a wee bit simulationey. Confused


https://www.youtube-nocookie.com/embed/6RrBxIWIuOM
What is all that meant to be about? What is Blackrock ?Is that the shooter?
When was that video taken and how is it supposed to be significant?


Is this just some kind of a curiosity?

Eedit: found this very easily on CNN
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/07/15/busin...index.html
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#39
Secular Sanity Offline
(Jul 16, 2024 12:22 AM)geordief Wrote: What is all that meant to be about? What is Blackrock ?Is that the shooter?
When was that video taken and how is it supposed to be significant?


Is this just some kind of a curiosity?

Yep, shooter. You can answer all the other questions for yourself just by looking it up.

And yeah, curiosity.
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#40
C C Offline
(Jul 15, 2024 07:03 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote: [...] Trump chose J.D. Vance. Probably a good choice considering all the chaos in today’s world. [...]

Back in 2016 (when he disliked DT), Vance even peddled the "Trump dictatorship" stuff and the other common memes that mainstream media experts still use today. It didn't happen during DT's 1st term, but I guess hope springs eternal. Kind of like the abominable failures of Marxism -- the people's paradise will still happen someday, with the Lord Protectors (literary intellectuals as ruling shepherds) finally bringing harmony and radical equality to humankind.
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