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Elon Musk trolls critical Thai cave rescuer

#11
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jul 15, 2018 08:19 PM)C C Wrote: https://www.newsmax.com/scitech/elon-mus...id/871785/

EXCERPT: Elon Musk responded to criticism from Vernon Unsworth, a British diver who had ripped the renowned tech developer for his rigged Thai cave rescue submarine, calling it "just a PR stunt" and saying Musk "can stick his submarine where it hurts."

Unsworth also claimed Musk "was asked to leave very quickly," another claim Musk debunked via Twitter: "Never saw this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus) at any point when we were in the caves. Only people in sight were the Thai navy/army guys, who were great. Thai navy seals escorted us in — total opposite of wanting us to leave."

Most alarming of Musk's rebuke of Unsworth was calling him a *pedo guy*. "You know what, don’t bother showing the video. We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it."

MORE: https://www.newsmax.com/scitech/elon-mus...id/871785/

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/07/16/british-...o-guy.html

stock fell 2%

no one wants their childrens technology products dragged into the world media ring of child sexual exploitation & sexual predators.

he should know better.
has he lost the plot ?

i wonder whats going on

fyi there was some very odd social media tweets by Elon some weeks to months back.
it left many people wondering what was going on.
they might well have been personal jokes and comments to friends who also follow him, or dares or bets of various antics he may be engaged in as most are.
however, do they show a sign of something deeper ?
most highly creative types like Einstien and the likes have quite disfunctional atributes to them which are managed.

you dont just have someone who is creatively above the majority who also fits inside the basic model of acceptable social normalcy.

hopefully he has some type of bi-polar disorder or autism spectrum issue.
otherwise i suspect his ego is currently eating his soul.
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#12
C C Offline
At least he doesn't have a comedy television show for a broadcast network to cancel.

Elon was a bullied and physically abused geek during his tween years, who might have reflexive revenge issues with any adult versions of his younger, macho tormentors.

But it's insanely risky for any magnate or celebrity to be on twitter -- like walking through a minefield. There's a limit to how much they can behave online like everyone else does. They don't get to relive the childhood and adolescent antics of school years. They don't get to shoot spitballs back at individuals in the public shooting spitballs at them.

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#13
Syne Offline
(Jul 18, 2018 01:25 AM)confused2 Wrote:
Syne Wrote:Musk shouldn't have been so reactive to the accusation of it being a PR stunt. Just makes the accusation seem true.
This is the guy that put his car into orbit round the Sun. Maybe his distant ancestors chose to blast a car out of their star system. He's rich and successful (just two of the reasons why I dislike him - thread to follow). Who else on the planet could/would/did/ get an engineered solution together withn a few days?

I don't begrudge success, nor lizard brain desires to right past wrongs, but a certain degree of the former should significantly relieve the latter. If he can't let go after all he's done, maybe he should spend a little money on therapy. Hell, whose to say his "pedo" remark wasn't projection of his own motives? No one knows, but whatever the motive, it's not a good look.
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#14
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jul 18, 2018 02:55 AM)C C Wrote: At least he doesn't have a comedy television show for a broadcast network to cancel.

Elon was a bullied and physically abused geek during his tween years, who might have reflexive revenge issues with any adult versions of his younger, macho tormentors.

But it's insanely risky for any magnate or celebrity to be on twitter -- like walking through a minefield. There's a limit to how much they can behave online like everyone else does. They don't get to relive the childhood and adolescent antics of school years. They don't get to shoot spitballs back at individuals in the public shooting spitballs at them.

~

i wonder how much relates to the ecconomic diatribe that was directed at him by some reporting to be media a while back.
the propositioning of forced compliance to conformist faiilure business models.
80% of all new businesses fail in the 1st 2 years. so all the business analysts say.

it did make me wonder if there was an alt-right attempt to manipulate his stock prices as a revenge against something.

in the public media some things are  a lose-lose regardles of asserting the same morality as those throwing shit.
managing that loss is more the win than trying to gain a win, because the win is the loss that such people are aiming for and sheople are expecting to see played out.

someone with his media power should be always keeping public statements at an arms length.
though.. would he come out and make some type of statement about a world leader ? probably not. & so the question of WHAT is coming unravelled starts to gain traction.
such is the way of such things.
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#15
Secular Sanity Offline
(Jul 17, 2018 12:26 AM)confused2 Wrote: If you initiate an exchange of schoolboy insults I don't think you can complain about what happens next. Unsworth might easily be accused of pretending his motive for being involved was 'the best interests of the children' when in fact it was something else.
Maybe "Stick your submarine where it hurts most." gives a small insight into the way Unsworth's mind works. In Thailand as well, as SS pointed out. In the court of schoolboy opinion he would be slaughtered.

Yeah, but as it turns out, the reason he lives there part time is because he has a relationship with this forty year old woman.

If it was a false statement of fact, insulting Musk might prove to be highly profitable.
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#16
RainbowUnicorn Offline
(Jul 18, 2018 08:51 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Jul 17, 2018 12:26 AM)confused2 Wrote: If you initiate an exchange of schoolboy insults I don't think you can complain about what happens next. Unsworth might easily be accused of pretending his motive for being involved was 'the best interests of the children' when in fact it was something else.
Maybe "Stick your submarine where it hurts most." gives a small insight into the way Unsworth's mind works. In Thailand as well, as SS pointed out. In the court of schoolboy opinion he would be slaughtered.

Yeah, but as it turns out, the reason he lives there part time is because he has a relationship with this forty year old woman.

If it was a false statement of fact, insulting Musk might prove to be highly profitable.

and an adult daughter with her by the looks of the pictures.
i am guessing she is around 20 to 25 years old.

i gues from his position he sees the world of rich psychopaths who wish to buy off their social guilt account with trending donations to something big in the media at the time.
the bigger it is in the media, the less actual money they have to give to appear really caring to try and keep their social caring pblicity account as close to 0 as possible.
but thats the way life is in 3rd world countrys with massive poverty and violence.

3rd world
where the value of life is very low.
1st world
where pure capitalism values money over people.

3rd world countrys where people are valued only for what you can take from them.
same same...
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#17
confused2 Offline
Okay.
So he has a forty year old wife with a twenty to twenty five year old daughter. He looks a lot older than his wife.
Just saying.
Edit .. he's 63. So 23 year age gap twixt him and wife.
Just saying.
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#18
Secular Sanity Offline
(Jul 18, 2018 10:35 PM)confused2 Wrote: Okay.
So he has a forty year old wife with a twenty to twenty five year old daughter. He looks a lot older than his wife.
Just saying.
Edit .. he's 63. So 23 year age gap twixt him and wife.
Just saying.

Roughly, yes, but the Donald and Melania beat that with 24 years difference.

I can’t remember who, (some radio personality) maybe it was Tom Leykis that said his 5th wife hasn’t even been born yet.
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#19
confused2 Offline
If Musk (very rich guy) put out a call for girls that had underage sex with Unsworth my guess is there would be many responses. Just how credible they would be is another matter. Neither side can win.
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#20
Magical Realist Offline
"The Tesla (TSLA) CEO has faced an intense backlash over the unfounded claim against Vernon Unsworth, an expert caver who participated in the rescue mission that saved 12 boys and their soccer coach from a flooded cave in Thailand.

Musk expressed remorse on Twitter.

The executive said that while Unsworth provoked him, "his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone."


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
· 17h
Replying to @adamchavez
As this well-written article suggests, my words were spoken in anger after Mr. Unsworth said several untruths & suggested I engage in a sexual act with the mini-sub, which had been built as an act of kindness & according to specifications from the dive team leader.


Elon Musk

@elonmusk
Nonetheless, his actions against me do not justify my actions against him, and for that I apologize to Mr. Unsworth and to the companies I represent as leader. The fault is mine and mine alone.

Unsworth has said he is considering legal action against the tech billionaire.

Gene Munster, a top tech analyst and the managing partner at Loup Ventures, wrote an open letter to Musk urging him to rein in his outbursts and erratic behavior so he might "regain investor confidence."

"Your behavior is fueling an unhelpful perception of your leadership -— thin-skinned and short-tempered," Munster wrote in the letter posted "on behalf of investors who believe in you and your mission."

Munster went on to advise Musk to apologize, focus on achieving Tesla's mission, and "consider taking a Twitter sabbatical."

Musk appears to be ignoring that last piece of advice. His apology to Unsworth came in a two-part tweet, posted in response to another Twitter user who linked to a story defending the Tesla CEO.

The controversy began when Unsworth described Musk's attempt to help save the stranded boys with a "kid-size submarine" as a PR stunt, telling CNN that the miniature escape pod "had absolutely no chance of working."

He can "stick his submarine where it hurts," Unsworth said during the interview in Thailand.

Musk replied with his unfounded smear shortly after.

Musk has a history of making outbursts on Twitter. He has also repeatedly lashed out at journalists amid critical coverage of Tesla, which has missed Model 3 production goals, lost top executives, and clashed with government investigators.

Just last week, one of Tesla's biggest investors called for the CEO to stay out of trouble.

"We think a time of quiet and peace is what is needed to work through these [production] issues," James Anderson, a partner at Tesla's fourth largest investor, Baillie Gifford & Co., said in a Bloomberg Television interview.

"I think that it would be good to just concentrate on the core task," he added."---
https://money.cnn.com/2018/07/18/technol...index.html
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