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Elon Musk trolls critical Thai cave rescuer

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C C Offline
https://www.newsmax.com/scitech/elon-mus...id/871785/

EXCERPT: Elon Musk responded to criticism from Vernon Unsworth, a British diver who had ripped the renowned tech developer for his rigged Thai cave rescue submarine, calling it "just a PR stunt" and saying Musk "can stick his submarine where it hurts."

Unsworth also claimed Musk "was asked to leave very quickly," another claim Musk debunked via Twitter: "Never saw this British expat guy who lives in Thailand (sus) at any point when we were in the caves. Only people in sight were the Thai navy/army guys, who were great. Thai navy seals escorted us in — total opposite of wanting us to leave."

Most alarming of Musk's rebuke of Unsworth was calling him a *pedo guy*. "You know what, don’t bother showing the video. We will make one of the mini-sub/pod going all the way to Cave 5 no problemo. Sorry pedo guy, you really did ask for it."

MORE: https://www.newsmax.com/scitech/elon-mus...id/871785/
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Magical Realist Offline
I doubt that Elon needs the publicity. I think he was just honestly trying to help and missed the train. Perhaps his sub has other applications it can be used for now. The "pedo" slur was out of line though and beneath him..I hate Twitter.
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(Jul 16, 2018 03:51 PM)Secular Sanity Wrote:
(Jul 15, 2018 11:49 PM)Magical Realist Wrote: The "pedo" slur was out of line though and beneath him..I hate Twitter.

I wouldn't have tweeted it but he does live in Thailand.  

And Thailand does have a reputation as a center for child sex tourism and child prostitution.

(Apr 16, 2018 02:44 AM)Magical Realist Wrote: Males are also overwhelmingly child molesters.

Just sayin'  Undecided

I'm pretty sure arguing that because there's a child sex trade in Thailand therefore this particular British man who lives there is a pedophile is a logical fallacy of some sort. I'm just too lazy to look it up.
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Like calling somebody who lives in the Ozarks a hillbilly; or a blonde stupid. Insults may entail misrepresentation as part of their very definition or effectiveness. I mean, if _X_ affront or attempt to offend was true or factual, then would the person on the receiving end really be justified in feeling vexed or angry? When it comes to associating the contingent characteristics of a particular individual to a formulaic conception (stereotype), there at least has to be an initial basis in fact for anything to annoy or stick at all. Like -- again -- actually residing in the Ozarks or being blonde.

Of course, some insults may be regarded as below the belt or have total taboo status. An era with an uptick in "militant civility" will increase the number of those forbidden offenses.

Also over time there could be a switcheroo occurring, like "hillbilly" becoming a self-identified badge of honor by country music devotees. Or "Yankee Doodle" becoming a song of defiance rather than one of mockery.

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If you initiate an exchange of schoolboy insults I don't think you can complain about what happens next. Unsworth might easily be accused of pretending his motive for being involved was 'the best interests of the children' when in fact it was something else.
Maybe "Stick your submarine where it hurts most." gives a small insight into the way Unsworth's mind works. In Thailand as well, as SS pointed out. In the court of schoolboy opinion he would be slaughtered.

As an aside, one idea I had was to let the boys drown and have everything ready to resuscitate them at the first opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if that wasn't part of the plan - if a child lost its face mask - keep going.
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(Jul 17, 2018 12:26 AM)confused2 Wrote: If you initiate an exchange of schoolboy insults I don't think you can complain about what happens next. Unsworth might easily be accused of pretending his motive for being involved was 'the best interests of the children' when in fact it was something else.
Maybe "Stick your submarine where it hurts most." gives a small insight into the way Unsworth's mind works. In Thailand as well, as SS pointed out. In the court of schoolboy opinion he would be slaughtered.

As an aside, one idea I had was to let the boys drown and have everything ready to resuscitate them at the first opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if that wasn't part of the plan - if a child lost its face mask - keep going.

Quote:As an aside, one idea I had was to let the boys drown and have everything ready to resuscitate them at the first opportunity. It wouldn't surprise me if that wasn't part of the plan - if a child lost its face mask - keep going.

they gave them anti anxiety medication to avoid them from panicing, this would also lower their breathing rate so they didnt run out of air.
it appears they did it very well.
also the navy seals and rescue cave divers are all specialists in NOT panicing and have a very calming way of interacting.
those specialists ability to teach others is of the highest order.
they specialise in teaching such things as part of their core goal to save lifes in terrible situations.
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Quote:As an aside, one idea I had was to let the boys drown and have everything ready to resuscitate them at the first opportunity.

Glad you mentioned that. I thought of that scene from The Abyss also. I was hesitant to bring it up because I thought the water temperature needed to be close to freezing. 

Personally I'm happy Thailand took care of business. Should be great political fodder for incumbents. Perhaps we westerners tend to think of that part of the world being a century behind us so I hope that such a rescue will help fix that stereotype.
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Syne Offline
Musk shouldn't have been so reactive to the accusation of it being a PR stunt. Just makes the accusation seem true.
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confused2 Online
Syne Wrote:Musk shouldn't have been so reactive to the accusation of it being a PR stunt. Just makes the accusation seem true.
This is the guy that put his car into orbit round the Sun. Maybe his distant ancestors chose to blast a car out of their star system. He's rich and successful (just two of the reasons why I dislike him - thread to follow). Who else on the planet could/would/did/ get an engineered solution together withn a few days?
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