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just found this really cool calculator
it allows you to calculate the size of an earth quake
https://earthquake.usgs.gov/learn/topics/calculator.php
how many times bigger is 1 quake from another



no mystacism involved in this.
my simple premis is that there should be a certain quantifiable level of probable prediction possible with basic movement of the plates.
until we get scientific instruments that can measure the torsion, (mass spectroscopy?) and electromagnetic fields and electrical build up at varying depths, (at which point it will be possible to calculate probablility of quakes) to have pre evacuation warnings and probability zones with time references on them.

e.g

MTC (Mass Torsion Collective) [Density Pressure & Electrical index showing collective data of Tectonic plate, rock, sea, land & generic teranian(sediment etc) electromagnetic levels including, friction, residual electrical charge and density index on a real time fluid display]

MTC value 75%
Location (plotted map area shoing most likely direction of release for directional shaking/movement and depth calculated by computer)
PT (probability Time zone) time in which it is expected to move as a statistical value in real time calculated by all data cross referenced with al known variables.

as smaller quakes and movement and varying degrees of planetary cycle, electromagnetic storms and other influencing factors happen it will show a real time value as probability values move up and down dependant on actual scientific data.

being a moving living thing the plates are always moving and thus having real time data showing build up and release of cross matched with density levels fault lines, strong points weak points etc... should give a good guide to what can be expected within a time frame of around 60 days(roughly) allowing for secondary systems and public evacuations....
reducing cost of lives massive reduction in loss of business continuity by efectively managing and almost preventing trading interuption.



i have been posting selected movements of deep plate quakes on the other thread

this thread is created because i did not wish to flood Yazatas thread.
please feel free to post or discus things here as you wish.

data moved from other thread
Got some SERIOUS plate action going on in the pacific in the last 5 hours.
hhmmm... all running around 4 to 5 just like they were preceding out 7.8
someones in for a bit of a big one i think.
my guess is possibly the leading faces that have not moved yetwest pacific subduction zones
we shall see hope it happens off shore somewhere

Type: EarthQuake
22 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4.7
DateTime: 2016-11-19 17:01:14
Region: 287km SSE of Tabiauan, Philippines
Depth: 551.75 Km
Source: USGS Feed




Type: EarthQuake
4 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.4
DateTime: 2016-11-19 12:41:45
Region: 41km WNW of Atka, Alaska
Depth: 152.11 Km
Source: USGS Feed

Type: EarthQuake
4 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.1
DateTime: 2016-11-19 12:41:45
Region: 51km NW of Atka, Alaska
Depth: 147.7 Km
Source: USGS Feed

Type: EarthQuake
5 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.9
DateTime: 2016-11-19 12:12:49
Region: 203km NE of Ndoi Island, Fiji
Depth: 563.31 Km
Source: USGS Feed

Type: EarthQuake
5 hours ago
Magnitude: 5.1
DateTime: 2016-11-19 11:36:26
Region: 211km SSE of Sarangani, Philippines
Depth: 106.79 Km
Source: USGS Feed

Type: EarthQuake
5 hours ago
Magnitude: 5.2
DateTime: 2016-11-19 11:36:26
Region: Talaud Islands, Indonesia.
Depth: 98 Km 
Source: GeoScience Australia

there was consistant movement of the alaskan border plate at depth prior to the 7.8
now it appears the western side of the plate is moving.

Type: EarthQuake
5 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.9
DateTime: 2016-11-19 12:12:49
Region: 203km NE of Ndoi Island, Fiji
Depth: 563.31 Kms
Source: USGS Feed

11 hours ago all very deep on the western side of the pacific plate

Type: EarthQuake
11 hours ago
Magnitude: 5.2
DateTime: 2016-11-19 06:00:56
Region: Banda Sea. (Reported felt).
Depth: 160 Kms
Source: GeoScience Australia

eastern pacific plate very deep

Type:
EarthQuake
34 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4.2
DateTime: 2016-11-19 18:49:00
Region: 22km S of Ilabaya, Peru
Depth: 107.45 Kms
Source: USGS Feed

Eastern pacific plate boundary 

Type: EarthQuake
4 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.6
DateTime: 2016-11-20 09:55:49
Region: 122km W of El Aguilar, Argentina
Depth: 197.45 Kms
Source: USGS Feed

21 Nov 2016, 01:33 PM (This post was last modified: 21 Nov 2016, 01:44 PM by RainbowUnicorn.) Eastern side of the pacific plate 2 quite a big ones and very deep.
these might be the same quake registered by 2 different locations
just before those we have 2, 1 VERY deep in the 4 to 5 range


I missed this one from the previous page

Type: EarthQuake
8 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.6
DateTime: 2016-11-20 09:55:49
Region: 122km W of El Aguilar, Argentina
Depth: 197.45
Source: USGS Feed


Type: EarthQuake
56 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4
DateTime: 2016-11-20 17:37:23
Region: 151km N of Calama, Chile
Depth: 138.46 KM (kilometers in depth)
Source: USGS Feed

Type: EarthQuake
78 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4.1
DateTime: 2016-11-20 17:24:19
Region: 51km S of Redoubt Volcano, Alaska
Depth: 92.6
Source: USGS Feed

Type: EarthQuake
88 minutes ago
Magnitude: 4.5
DateTime: 2016-11-20 17:05:03
Region: 207km W of Chichi-shima, Japan
Depth: 452.77 KM
Source: USGS Feed


Type: EarthQuake
3 hours ago
Magnitude: 6.7
DateTime: 2016-11-20 14:57:38
Region: San Juan, Argentina.
Depth: 140 Kms
Source: GeoScience Australia

Type: EarthQuake
3 hours ago
Magnitude: 6.4
DateTime: 2016-11-20 14:57:43
Region: 10km SSW of Zonda, Argentina
Depth: 115.79 Kms
Source: USGS Feed

22 Nov 2016, 10:32 AM
Japan right now

Type: EarthQuake
30 minutes ago
Magnitude: 7.3
DateTime: 2016-11-21 14:59:46
Region: 61km ESE of Namie, Japan
Depth: 10
Source: USGS Feed

22 Nov 2016, 12:37 PM
Type: EarthQuake
4 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.9
DateTime: 2016-11-21 13:02:42
Region: 8km NW of Agat Village, Guam
Depth: 99.12 km
Source: USGS Feed

23 Nov 2016, 12:32 PM (This post was last modified: 23 Nov 2016, 12:51 PM by RainbowUnicorn.)
10 hours ago
81km W of San Antonio de los Cobres, Argentina
4.6
163.3 kms deep

7 hours ago
South of the Fiji Islands
5.0
504.7 Kms Deep

7 hours ago
South of Fiji Islands.
5.1
600.0 KmsDeep

5 hours ago
59km N of Hirara, Japan
4.9
78.3 Kms Deep

4 hours ago
52km SSE of Tateyama, Japan
4.9
100.5 Kms Deep

3 hours ago
Off E. Coast of N. Island, N.Z..
5.2
167.0 Kms Deep

3 hours ago
91km NE of Maketu, New Zealand
5.0
204.3 Kms Deep

slightly bigger than other smaller ones for canada and will watch to see if these rise in magnitude at depth
there was a 4.2 somewhere in canada but it looks fairly shallow so i did not list it.

3 hours ago

Canada
3.2
170.0 kms deep



Consistant deep movement all above the 4.0 range going up to as you can see around 5.2(i am not sure of the actual magnitude accurancey at that depth).
consistant more sparadic smaller shakes on the alaska and canadian boundary which is good yet shows consistant movement.

i am seeing consistant small surface movement in california which is awesome, lets hope that keeps those small ones going and stays shallow

New Zealand is starting to get some shallower ones which i am not too sure about.
there are consistant reports that the aftershocks have not become a slow rubbling sideways movement and they are happening at a much shallower depth which means greater potential damage.
if we get something around a 5.5 above at the 5km depth range then there is going to be quite a bit of damage, possibly more roads being blocked by landslides and houses already shaken may get shaken off their foundations.
the realy big change reported by some residents says the longer more side to side ones really do shake them around and resulting in them reporting the quake to be a much greater shaking/severity even though the quake size is a "to be expected not very big aftershock".
I and i do say If the deep 4 to 5 range continue on for a few more days, then i shall start to expect there to be another potential 7 ot higher somewhere possibly toward the south of japan where there has been almost no movement at all shallow or at depth.

24 Nov 2016, 12:28 PM (This post was last modified: 24 Nov 2016, 12:28 PM by RainbowUnicorn.)
new behaviour stronger quake and shallower alaska region. previousely the shallow quakes have all been very minor and nothing over a 4 or maybe 3.5
there has been sparadic but consistent deep movement of the between range of 4 to 5 and some smaller running deep also.
this signals an intensifying effect at a shallower depth

54 minutes ago
82km WSW of Chernabura Island, Alaska
5.1
33.7 KMs Deep
USGS Feed

7 hours ago

41km SE of Semisopochnoi Island, Alaska
5.1
94.2 kms Deep

japan is recieving probale aftershocks through the leading face of the western side of the pacific plate join.
thats good news.

however ... there is renewed deep movement around the western face of the pacific plate of a consistant 4 to 5 range which i will post.

5 hours ago
143km SE of Sarangani, Philippines
4.9
98.2 Kms Deep

7 hours ago
Northern Molucca Sea.
5.0
84.0 kms Deep

7 hours ago
Northern Molucca Sea.
4.9
60.0 kms Deep


and a possible new fault activation in new zealand

NZDT Thu, Nov 24 2016, 9:30:24 am
Depth 12 km
Magnitude 5.4
Location 105 km west of Snares Islands

26 Nov 2016, 01:38 PM (This post was last modified: 26 Nov 2016, 01:41 PM by RainbowUnicorn.)
8 hours ago
157km NW of Pangai, Tonga
4.7
168.3 Kms Deep

9 hours ago
1km NNW of Tecpan Guatemala, Guatemala
4.7
190.0 Kms Deep


im supposing most are aware of this one which was relatively shallow
M 7.0 - 149km SSW of Puerto El Triunfo, El Salvador

Time2016-11-24 18:43:48 (UTC)Location11.960°N 88.835°W Depth10.3 km


this is interesting because of the depth being somewhat mid depth and equal intensity of the deeper ones
suggests the potential pushing action might still be ongoing.
if the deep 4.0 to 5.0 plus range continue (say 2 or 1 deep 4 to 5 every day then in around 2 weeks i would expect something like a 7+ around there unles there are other shallower smaller ones to let out the pressure.



these 2 might suggest a different movement seam(or fault)

76km SSW of Puerto El Triunfo, El Salvador
4.4
54.3 Kms Deep
USGS Feed


8 hours ago
72km SSW of La Libertad, El Salvador
4.5
64.9 Kms Deep
USGS Feed

26 Nov 2016, 03:34 PM
100 minutes ago

160km NE of Ndoi Island, Fiji
4.4
571.2 Kms Deep
USGS Feed

36 minutes ago

South of the Fiji Islands
4.6
478.2 Kms Deep
USGS Feed

26 Nov 2016, 04:40 PM

56 minutes ago Central Mid-Atlantic Ridge 5.0 10.0 USGS Feed


27 Nov 2016, 10:58 AM (This post was last modified: 27 Nov 2016, 11:06 AM by RainbowUnicorn.)
83 minutes ago
4km WSW of Pasaco, Guatemala
4.8
105.1Kms Deep
USGS Feed

8 hours ago
130km SW of Leksula, Indonesia
4.2
447.3 Kms Deep
USGS Feed

this is interesting because there is very little activity in this region

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com

9 hours ago
Magnitude: 4.8
DateTime: 2016-11-26 06:40:22
Region: 128km SW of Chichi-shima, Japan
Depth: 89.97
Source: USGS Feed

different feed

https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes


M 4.8 - 128km SW of Chichi-shima, Japan
Time
    2016-11-26 12:40:22 (UTC)
Location
    26.378°N 141.189°E
Depth    90.0 km


27 Nov 2016, 12:31 PM (This post was last modified: 27 Nov 2016, 12:36 PM by RainbowUnicorn.)
3 hours ago
2km SE of Maripi, Colombia
4.3
126.0 Kms Deep
USGS Feed

2 hours ago
5km E of Zonda, Argentina
4.6
105.2 Kms Deep
USGS Feed


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Original quake thread By Yazata

M 4.9 - 287km SE of Lambasa, Fiji

Time 2016-11-27 06:49:33 (UTC)
Location 17.960°S 178.440°W
Depth 593.8 km
M 4.7 - 98km NNW of Isangel, Vanuatu

Time 2016-11-27 20:13:01 (UTC)
Location 18.704°S 168.980°E
Depth 161.1 km

more movement DEEP in Vanuatu

M 4.8 - 86km NNW of Isangel, Vanuatu

Time2016-11-27  22:36:59 (UTC)
Location 18.794°S 169.064°E
Depth 158.7 km




smaller but still consistant movement on the northern pacific plate boundary

M 1.9 - 83km WSW of Cantwell, Alaska

Time  2016-11-27 13:18:32 (UTC) 
Location 63.168°N 150.548°W
Depth 115.2 km
this is what i call an indicator quake, which is why i am listing it as it is fairly big and un common for this area.
it is not very deep but usually signifies movement accross the plate.

M 5.1 - Southern East Pacific Rise

Time 2016-11-27 22:08:20 (UTC)
Location 50.567°S 114.598°W
Depth 10.0 km

i will be watching for increased or same magnitude quakes at depth
i thought it would be quieting down but it seems to be continuing.
i think that if it stays around 4 to 5 deep 4.5 magnitude quakes per day at great depth we can pretty much garauntee another 7.2 to 7.8 somewhere on the pacific plate boundarys in the next 5 or soo days
assuming that the deep quakes of 4 to 5 magnitude continue.
if the western plate continues to build up then it increases the liely hood of a tsunami event for probably indonesia where there are a great number of fault lines.
given the number of fault lines it might break out earlier at a lower magnitude which will be good if it does.
Alaska continues to have deep movement in the below 4.0 range

example ...
M 2.1 - 54km SSW of Redoubt Volcano, Alaska
Time  2016-11-28 07:57:14 (UTC)
Location  60.020°N 153.029°W 
Depth  124.4 km

there are a few not soo common movements in the southern hemisphere

M 5.1 - Southern East Pacific Rise

Time 2016-11-27 22:08:20 (UTC)
Location 50.567°S 114.598°W
Depth 10.0 km

M 5.1 - Pacific-Antarctic Ridge

Time 2016-11-28 04:12:58 (UTC)
Location 56.611°S 140.990°W
Depth 10.0 km

M 4.9 - Pacific-Antarctic Ridge

Time 2016-11-28 08:17:26 (UTC)
Location 55.116°S 128.820°W
Depth 10.0 km

M 5.1 - Southeast Indian Ridge

Time 2016-11-28 08:07:22 (UTC)
Location 41.856°S 88.545°E
Depth 10.0 km
new deep movement on the western side of the pacific plate

M 4.6 - 100km NNW of Anatahan, Northern Mariana Islands

Time 2016-11-29 00:26:21 (UTC)
Location 17.247°N 145.466°E
Depth 358.2 km


continued deep movement on the eastern side of the pacific plate
close enough to the 4.0 range so i am listing it as continuing momentum

M 3.8 - 7km S of Zonda, Argentina

Time 2016-11-28 21:41:54 (UTC)
Location 31.614°S 68.732°W
Depth 107.0 km

this is good to see mid-range movement on the western side not too big to damage but fairly deep and large enough to potentially ease pressure to equal the eastern deeper movement
there was a similar quake to this 2 days ago which is potentially good news for the pacific plate possibly

M 4.2 - 130km SW of Leksula, Indonesia
Time 2016-11-26 13:22:28 (UTC)
Location 4.656°S 125.728°E
Depth 447.3 km




M 4.8 - 119km S of Kandrian, Papua New Guinea

Time 2016-11-28 11:50:03 (UTC)
Location 7.301°S 149.601°E
Depth 48.6 km

now what im hoping for is regular 4 to 5 consistant movement around the eastern coast of japan to release the top left of the pacific plate at a magnitude that will not cause damage or be too small to not create a potential build up of force in the top left of the pacific plate.

these ones are a little bit of a red flag for me personally
Southern East Pacific Rise
Pacific-Antarctic Ridge
Southeast Indian Ridge
Mariana Islands

if they were by themselves then not really bothered, however matched with deep movement ONLY if the deep movement CONTINUES then i would begin to expect something bigger
Continued small deep movement in the northern pacific plate border
"alaska" has quite a bit of deep and shallow movement all in the small magnitude, it clearly shows from the regular deep movement that there is general deep movement happening.
lucky for alaska that it does not build up and has lots of very regular small quakes.
note depths appear to be plus 100km
around 80km
and then shallower depths.

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M 3.0 - 73km W of Anchor Point, Alaska

Time 2016-11-29 14:49:13 (UTC)
Location59.658°N 153.125°W
Depth 106.0 km

continued deep movement in the western plate boundary

M 4.5 - 123km NE of Palue, Indonesia

Time 2016-11-29 13:08:31 (UTC)
Location 7.805°S 123.614°E
Depth 252.0 km

continued deep movement centre of the plate

M 4.7 - 288km SE of Lambasa, Fiji

Time 2016-11-29 08:54:18 (UTC)
Location 17.922°S 178.403°W
Depth 582.7 km
there has been renewed very deep movement around fiji and vanuatu
additionally the alaska border has continued to have consistant deep movement
then again in the last few hours 

Thursday December 1 2016, 20:51:55 UTC

3 hours ago South Indian Ocean.
M 5.4 Depth 0.0 GeoScience Australia
Detail

Thursday December 1 2016, 20:51:55 UTC
3 hours ago Southwest Indian Ridge
Magnitude 5.3 Depth 10.0
USGS Feed
Detail

Thursday December 1 2016, 20:51:54 UTC
3 hours ago South Indian Ocean.
MAgnitude 5.4 Depth 0.0
GeoScience Australia
Detail

http://quakes.globalincidentmap.com/#

M 4.7 - 157km NW of Pangai, Tonga
Time      2016-11-25 15:25:46 (UTC)  Location  18.874°S 175.494°W     Depth  168.3 km

[/url]M 4.4 - 160km NE of Ndoi Island, Fiji
Time     2016-11-26 00:51:09 (UTC)    Location  19.601°S 177.646°W    Depth   571.2 km

[url=http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us10007cfd]M 4.6 - South of the Fiji Islands
Time     2016-11-26 01:55:28 (UTC)    Location  25.044°S 179.909°W    Depth   478.2 km

M 4.9 - 287km SE of Lambasa, Fiji
Time     2016-11-27 06:49:33 (UTC)    Location  17.960°S 178.440°W    Depth    593.8 km

M 4.7 - 288km SE of Lambasa, Fiji
Time     2016-11-29 08:54:18 (UTC)    Location  17.922°S 178.403°W    Depth    582.7 km

M 5.0 - 88km SSW of Ndoi Island, Fiji
Time     2016-11-30 22:07:29 (UTC)    Location   21.320°S 179.169°W    Depth    603.2 km

M 4.5 - 119km ENE of Ndoi Island, Fiji
Time     2016-11-30 23:38:02 (UTC)    Location  20.271°S 177.628°W     Depth    504.0 km
ongoing deep movement
central pacific plate
and some deep middle western pacific plate.


Friday December 2 2016, 23:19:22 UTC
2 hours ago
Banda Sea.
Magnitude 5.1
Depth 114.0 km
GeoScience Australia
Detail


M 4.7 - 166km SE of Hihifo, Tonga
Time 2016-12-02 07:26:44 (UTC)
Location 17.174°S 172.849°W
Depth 65.1 km

M 4.9 - 96km SSW of Pisangkemeng, Indonesia
Time 2016-12-02 09:11:41 (UTC)
Location 9.610°S 117.436°E
Depth 82.2 km
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[url=http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us10007e9c]M 4.8 - South of the Fiji Islands

Time 2016-12-02 11:56:40 (UTC)
Location 24.168°S 179.874°E
Depth 526.4 km

M 4.6 - 228km NW of Saumlaki, Indonesia
Time 2016-12-02 23:19:24 (UTC)
Location 6.330°S 130.028°E
Depth 135.6 km

M 4.5 - 87km NNE of Isangel, Vanuatu
Time 2016-12-03 01:00:19 (UTC)
Location 18.850°S 169.648°E
Depth 125.2 km
its all go, movement all over the place in the above 4 range some deep some shallow.

another larger quake on what i deep as an indicator fault.
anything on a sea ridge or trench counts as an indicator.

M 4.5 - 87km NNE of Isangel, Vanuatu
Time 2016-12-03 01:00:19 (UTC)
Location 18.850°S 169.648°E
Depth 125.2 km

M 6.0 - 53km S of Shemya Island, Alaska
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Time 2016-12-03 09:23:34 (UTC)
Location 52.244°N 174.201°E
Depth 26.9 km

M 5.5 - 175km SSW of Vaini, Tonga
Time 2016-12-03 14:11:09 (UTC)
Location 22.582°S 176.027°W
Depth 153.1 km
M 4.5 - 29km SW of Ndoi Island, Fiji
Time 2016-12-03 20:17:53 (UTC)
Location 20.870°S 178.868°W
Depth 600.5 km

M 5.0 - 96km SE of Meulaboh, Indonesia
Time 2016-12-03 22:48:11 (UTC)
Location3.487°N 96.707°E
Depth 74.5 km

M 5.2 - Pacific-Antarctic Ridge
Time 2016-12-03 22:57:03 (UTC)
Location  54.069°S 133.931°W 
Depth 10.0 km

lots of deep movement around fiji and some deep movement around vanuatu to the west of fiji
some greater than regular magnitude quakes appearing on the northern pacific plate boundary.
additionally some deep movement in indonesia.
soo relieved New Zealand got this one

  • [Image: 174E42S-severe.png]
Intensity severe
Region intensity severe
NZDT Sun, Dec 4 2016, 4:15:47 pm (afternoon)
Depth 12 km
Magnitude 5.5
Location 10 km east of Seddon
http://www.geonet.org.nz/quakes/felt/severe 

not trying to add jiggery pokery..
just an interesting note. my suspicion is that the indian ridge arctic indian ridge & Pacific-Antarctic Ridge
generally indicate a large amount of plate friction build up when they are triggered.

my guess is that in theory New Zealand should get another 5.5 in the next couple of days hopefully to ease the pressure and match/release the deep fiji/vanuatu movement

M 5.0 - West of Macquarie Island
Time 2016-12-04 05:59:19 (UTC) (morning)
Location 52.089°S 139.503°E
Depth 10.0 km

i am relatively happy with the japanese plate boundary as long as it keeps up the high 4.0 to 5.0 though it would be nice to see a mid range 5 at 30 or soo kilometers in depth.
i still think there is not enough movement in the mid western side of the pacific plate to match the northern alaska plate border and the fiji movement...
though it looks a bit less hecktick with fewer deep movements on the eastern boundary.

im fairly sure a 6.5(rough guess at a relativ siesmic build up and release) is currently sitting south off the japan coast which needs to probably be expressed through the upper layers closer to maybe 25 kilometer depth.
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